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Can you tell us more about it, Daem0n? I think that you are right(but I figured it out too late), and I'd really like to know more about this "contamination".(what kind of problems you had, how did you deal with it, etc.). If you don't want to talk about it in the forums then please PM me.

What exactly did you figure out too late? Exactly what happened?

Does it have a relation to sex?

I started doing a mudra/mantra combination to stimulate the third eye from this site.

http://www.666blacksun.com/Opening_the_ThirdEye.html

I didn't actually figure out how to get the vibration so that I could actually feel it in my forehead until the 3 day. So I performed the exercise for a total of 6 days counting the 3rd day as the 1st. Nothing happened. So I continued doing the practice.

Well now I will either feel a tingling, throbbing, or magnetic sensation in the space between my eyebrows at random times throughout the day instead of just when I concentrate of it. If I concentrate on it I sometimes feel a vertical line of throbbing points up my forehead, not to mention other parts of my face(especial my right cheek), but I can't see anything with my third eye.

I recall there being a thread about this very exercise some time back where CaCoDeMoN reported the technique was successful. Am I supposed to do the Crown chakra exercise as well to activate the third eye? Has anyone else had success with this technique. I can feel it right now as I type this, but my vision remains the same.

MiddleWay:

I'm considering myself partly enlightened, I still have a way to go. Maybe I wont reach full enlightenment in this life but I'm working on it. On the other hand I believe their is no limit in how enlightened one can be.

Yes my kundalini runs in the spinal but also in the middle and the front of my torso. I think it's kinda narrow to say that kundalini runs only in the spinal because it activates the whole energy body and the chakras.

Christian

What is enlightenment, Stamboe? In your own words.

So you are saying kundalini is always there? That it rose and stayed in place? That it did not descend at any time since it originally rose?

In your mid torso? Is it traveling down from the crown to the heart after traveling to the brain?

What can you do now with an "activated" chakra that you couldn't do with a dormant chakra?

You don't have to do yoga to raise kundalini. I rose it by meditation alone.

Kundalini is a very powerful energy and one should have respect for it and be sure to be mentally and emotionally balanced before starting to deal with it. It's also a very pleasant and blissful energy that leads to enlightenment.

So do you consider yourself enlightened. Is this kundalini raised in your spinal canal as you type?

I am only familiar with this concept through Gnostic theology. It refers to Alchemical Birth.

The solar body is a real tangible form created on the Path of the Razor's Edge through a process of self-observation, conscious realization of separateness of the consciousness from the mind, conscious realization of separateness of the consciousness from the ego, and the continued focus of maintaining a state of conscious vigilance (the still mind). This is to allow the consciousness, the actual being, to act and react consciously instead of mechanically. This state alleviates suffers brought on by the ego and allows for an objective unclouded perception of reality because the consciousness does not fear, hate, crave, etc... The purpose is to equilibrate the sexual, instinctual, motor, emotional, and intellectual centers. This in turn balances the energy centers (chakra). Once a person reaches Equilibrium and can experience superior emotions that are a quality of conscious they can Love others. This is not the psychological attachment mixed with lust that we typically refer to as love. Practicing the sexual alchemy (white tantra) with a partner that you Love will transmute the sexual energy and awaken the Devi Kundalini.

Once the kundalini has ascended all 33 degrees/vertebrae of the physical body that Initiate has mastered the element of earth/matter

Once the kundalini has ascended all 33 degrees/vertebrae of the vital body that Initiate has mastered the element of water/sex

Once the kundalini has ascended all 33 degrees/vertebrae of the astral body the Initiate has mastered the element of fire/emotion. Having created the solar astral body, a real body, as opposed to a protoplasmic shell without definitive constitution that most people possess a person is free from the wheel of Samsara because they can live in the astral permanently. But that is hardly the "highest spiritual attainment".

You still have mental kundalini to rise in order to master the element of air/intellect. I believe at that point you can create the causal body for the causal plane and incarnate the Human Soul. At that point one has full knowledge and understanding of all your experiences through all your terrestrial existences from mineral, plant, animal, and all human lives. The whole process correlates to the riddle of the sphinx.

At that point one is referred to as a Master.

Vesselinpeev,

First I'd like to state that I never said that ants could not develop lungs or that they could not grow to be the size of a cow. What I said was that they could not undergo such a change and at the same time be immune to the deadly effects of radiation.

Why don't you take the initiative to study radiation yourself? Then use that same initiative in your study of roach physiology. Then you will understand why a roach is more resilient to radiation than a human. You will also come to understand why a physiological development of lungs would stripe a roach of their advantage.

No creature the size of a dog is going to be able to absorb enough oxygen through an exoskeleton to support their mass. And if they could it would take A LOT of energy to pull in the same amount of air that lungs deliver through the pores of an exoskeleton. They would have to constantly be in the process of consuming sugars, carbs, and proteins and would not be able to ever rest because once the stopped eating they'd burn all their body's energy reserves by merely breathing. Sleeping would be suicide.

You don't have to believe me. Believe whatever you want. You seem so fanatical in your need to believe in this particular author that I think this discussion is bordering on a religious debate. I don't debate people's faith because faith is emotionally motivated by nature.

Peace.

Hello
Another thing that is very questionable to me is the conversation on page 29. They travel very fast between the stars. Then they manage to see a comet at that great speed. And when Michel asks how far away that comet is from the spacecraft, Thao replies "4 150 000 kilometers".
What is the point to give such an exact answer to the question, given that the speed of light is 300 000 km/s, and they where going at many times the speed of light?

/nibor

Yes, there are lots of things wrong with it. It's a very cleverly written fiction, using little bits from all subjects that 'sound correct'. Just look at what the author says at the end - that the more evolved reader will just 'know' it's true. The book was written in 1987 I think. Back when everyone thought there were 9 planets in our solar system. So the book says that all solar systems have 9 planets. Well, we now know that there are 10 planets in our solar system, maybe more. Or 8 if your definition of planet is different, there certainly aren't 9 though.

I don't think you could see much of anything anyway if you're faster than light. If you were to have a car traveling faster than light, the light coming at you would be "piling up" on your windshield because you'd be going to fast for it to reflect off. I wonder what exactly that would look like.

So our fiction novelist claims that there are definitely only 9 planets, huh? I didn't read the whole book, but I wouldn't have thought anyone would be dumb enough to assert something that could so easily be shown to be false tomorrow.   He might as well have claimed that there were no more species of any kind of animal other what are already discovered.

I downloaded an astral projection guide and it had some things in it like Bellinin and Jupiter and I was wondering if they worked. The audio files say: "In the name of Jupiter father of gods I call unto you tavedos contilunm." and the Bellinin audio says: "Bellinin Bellinin Bellinin I'm full of salvation, I would like to be next to you materialism has no strength next to me. Bellinin Bellinin Bellinin Bellinin Bellinin Bellinin".
Those are supposed to remove negative entities but I'm not sure if they work. And just now while I was listening to the Bellinin there was a weird pulsing in my right arm. Any clue what that is?

That's "ve vigos cosilim". And in my experience they aren't really useful, but I'll have to explain. They are basically prayers to higher ranking members of the White Brotherhood aka White Lodge. These being are supposedly archangels like Gabriel, Micheal, Anael, Metatron, etc. You may have heard these names attributed to many different belief systems. Belillin is supposedly a divine wind that blows away negativity.

"Te vigos cosilim" is supposed to be a prayer to your higher self, who is generically called Jupiter.. or maybe it is Iod Heva(Jehovah). Where Belillin in an area of effect spell, the Juptiter one is directed at a single target. Typically a neg is going to silence you and make it hard for you to move. Sounds like a RPG, huh? Then you have to continue saying them mentally. And that's assuming you aren't awakened before you finish staying them 3 times. Because you are supposed to say them 3 times for them to work. I've heard that if you are energically weak the purplish light emitted out of one's hands that some claim to see during the Jupiter conjuration will be weak and ineffective.

Now if you encounter anything other than a negative thoughform it isn't going to work. I don't think they work on subconscious creations either. And if it is merely a negative thougform or subconscious projection your fear is the only reason it's kicking your butt anyway. Try those little chants on a real being and they are gonna laugh at you. Luckily there aren't too many actual beings running around picking on people for no reason.

I do believe in the chakras and the etheric body, but I just do not see how there is any real evidence of these other chakras existing, I believe in the first 7 but not the out of body ones.

Practice clairvoyance and perhaps you'll see them for yourself. I can say I have seen the 8th above the crown, but anything over that I wouldn't know.

Just wondering what people's thoughts are for a good crystal to assist psychic development?

Might I suggest Amethyst?

I had a weird astral experience yesterday. Not so sure I was attacked, but I'm not really sure what was happening.

I was lying in bed when I began to feel the vibrations. I wasn't trying to astral project at all, but I did think about it awhile before I feel asleep. Anyway, after awhile the room, the way I see it, begins to change. I see everything with their auras for awhile.

But then these two orbs of white light with a hint of yellow are hovering over me. The lighting effect they projected was like that of a radiation of light in the center with a ring of light around that central point. Gave them a kind of bulls eye quality. Then I notice than coming from the center of these circles, the bulls eye, there were these whirlwinds of light extended down to my chest(orb 1) and stomach area(orb 2). I looked at them and began to think they are aliens for some reason because at one point as the image faded it looked like there as a separate light on the ceiling and the two orbs where "looking down" at me. Kinda like how people depict abduction events where the greys are hunched over looking at them while they are on the table. Other than that there was nothing extraterrestrial about it. They had no body or eyes or anything. Just similarity by association.

Anyway, I rolled over without actually wanting to or trying to. This is how I've separated from the physical before. Then I pushed off because now I'm thinking I'm out of body. I don't float up though. I just appeared back on my back as if I'd woke up. When I thought about getting up the vibrations started again so I think, "Wow, again?". I vibrate for awhile and then I try to get up. It's a struggle. My waist to my feet can move and my shoulders up to my head can move, but not the waist to chest area: the same area those whirlwinds were touching down on. I'd struggle to get up and then I'd finally kick my legs over the side of the bed and sit up. As I'd stand up it would repeat again. I'd "wake up" and think about getting up and the vibration would start again. At one point when I was lying on my back -again- my arms were transparent heat waves like what you see over a grill when barbecuing. As if I was seeing the body heat, but not the body. There was this weird red spherical pulsating energy in my right pinkie finger. I keep trying to get rid of it, but it would just grow back, so I turned it into blue energy. I just knew that blue was good while red was bad. At another time I started making a translucent airy dragon subconsciously. I know this because I was researching Mayan civilization and the dragon was represented in an artistic styles similar to to Mayan totems and such. This dragon became more humanoid and walked over toward me. I smacked it across the face to see if I could feel it and "awoke" again on my back. At some point I drifted from a conscious projection to a dream state because my mother came into my room and told me she was going to cook some chicken fried rice then walked back out. I moved out nearly five years ago and I don't even live in the U.S. at the moment so I know she didn't actually come over.

Anyway, this struggle to get out of bed, "awaken" back on my back, and projection vibration restart scenario keep happening til I finally "woke up" and realize I've fallen into a dream, got bored, and actually awakened for real by sheer will.

I've had entities try and kick me out of the astral before but never have i had any try and keep me in. There was no pain, fear, discomfort, or anything that I could positively say was negative involved, but I assume that those orb things had something to do with me not waking up. I'm not sure, but the whirlwinds appeared to be spiraling downward towards me rather then up wards into the orbs.

once i project i'll believe any of that when i see it

untill then i dont wanna be a large breasted amazon haha

that was a half-joke

(only in the sense that i'm in this life, and i do not infact know the truth)





if in the astral gender becomes unneccissary, how is there Spirit guides under certain genders??

and isn't there a masculine and femanine part of God?

You can have both male and female phenotypes and still be a civilization of hermaphrodites. I guess all the females were lesbians to begin with. Obviously the author is more comfortable with girl on girl action

Gender, in addition to it's physical presence, is a psychological concept that I believe carries over into the emotional and mental bodies as baggage from the physical existence. Simply having what we might identify as a male appearance does not necessarily dictate a gender. In my opinion gender is based on rather you have a penis or a vagina or both based in procreation.

It personally think "God" is the totality of existence; Me, you, him, her, those guys, that tree, what goes up, must come down, etc. I don't believe in any cruel dictator lorded over me although we are quite cruel to ourselves.

In my understanding male represents spirituality, intuitive intellect, imagination, awareness, god-consciousness, etc.  while female represents instinct, sexuality, self power, creation, intellectual understanding, etc.

The "male" and the "female" in that respect have nothing to do with a penis or a vagina?

the beings that live there, are neither male or female??


i read this part about that big that said something about that, thats so strange

and they look more feminine than masculine, but does that mean their faces have a bit of masculine in it? and they still say they are better looking

that's such a hard concept/idea to grab a hold of

In accordance with what the author personally identifies as beautiful, all his aliens are tall, large breasted, blond amazon "women" who have both sexual organs. In his imaginary world, these aliens decided amongst themselves that the female appearance was superior to that of males. Not one individual, male or female, thought that the male physic was worth ever looking at again. They all wanted to be tall large breasted blond amazons...  


I would think that beyond the physical plane's biological anatomies of gender and the emotion/mental(astral and mental planes) aspects concerning male and female, everyone would simply be conscious entities. Male and female become unnecessary concepts.

A few (hopefully familiar) questions. I've left my ego at the door, believe it or not.

When we die, the brain stops working and immediately starts decaying. Consciousness is lost, thought-processes stop, emotions cease.

Unless we pretend the brain doesn't exist, or does something totally different: How can any part of my mind continue to exist after I have died?

Do those who believe in reincarnation have a different understanding of how the brain works? I don't hear much 'scientific' discussion of how the brain works from those who believe in reincarnation, so I would appreciate help with that issue.

Then there are 'souls', which have no clear definition, making them easy to attribute things to without obvious contradiction. I have yet to see any evidence of souls or any explanation of the theory or logic of them. Or does the soul 'just happen' to also do everything the brain does?

I won't go into to out of body death experiences because I have never had one. But I can say that I know a person who would strongly disagree with the concept that "Consciousness is lost, thought-processes stop, emotions cease" when the brain ceases to function.

Another question could be, "How many brain cells does one have to stick together before they become one unified consciousness?" Basically, how many non-conscious objects have to be clustered together to make a single conscious entity?

The typical consensus is that the physical body is a reflection of a higher existence. Therefore the brain, and anything it appears to do, is in fact a 3rd dimensional representation of the "real thing". So if a brain was to be removed, whatever aspect it represented will not manifest in this physical dimension.

As far as I can tell the physical body is just an intricately designed cluster of non-sentient particles with some electricity running throughout. Where the intangible qualities of sensation, emotion, or thought enter the equation in the physical sense is beyond me.

What about the Sons of Belial?

who's Belial?

A demon I believe. Possibly a 4th dimension entity.

Supposedly there were these The Law of One and the Sons of Belial. One being your typical "We're justified because 'God' is on my side" RHP faith and the other a LHP "don't fight your instinct" kinda faith. Of course in hindsight, or should I say "blindsight", the LHP guys are held responsible for the destruction of the continent.

"Lethal amounts of radiation vary between creatures"

Not exactly. Some creatures don't really take in the full blunt of the radiation to begin with. Although, what I meant to convey was that radiation is harmful to all organisms. Actually, roaches do indeed have an unusually different chromosome structure, which is difficult for radiation to shatter. So do butterflies, but not ants.

Ionizing radiation does not attack organic material per say, it attacks atoms by pulling electrons out of their orbit. Radiation effects organism in the form of particles. Creatures with exoskeletons(especially roaches which has a particularly dense one) absorb oxygen through their skeletal structure. Radioactive particles aren't small enough to be absorbing with oxygen. They are killed from the outside in, instead of from the inside out, as with organisms who breath via lungs. Also their exoskeleton molts and this removes radioactive particles. Considering the cellular growth of roaches I can see why they could take more.

However, according to the author, these insects developed lungs and large masses putting them in the same category with the rest of us. When you take everything into consideration, there is no reason for the roach to physically change due to radiation as it doesn't really break the skin in in the first place. It's tantamount to humans mutating to a point where we no longer have an epidermis because of solar radiation and then thriving regardless of the fact that we lost the one thing that protected us. The roach genetics have served them for 365 million years and now, from a survival perspective, they are going to de-evolve into something that is more susceptible to radiation.. AND THRIVE?!?!?! There is no way any creature the size of a large dog is going to be able to cellular regenerate fast enough to slow down the radiation process. To much mass to cover in addiction to inhaling radioactive particles directly into the blood stream.

The author is in a land of make believe. He'd have been better of just writing a theological thesis. Instead he's trying to pull a "God is own my side" move by attributing the supposed beliefs of these "top of of the spiritual hierarchy" aliens to his own.

I believe the book is a compilation of eastern philosophy, alien abductee reports, and the author's own childlike imagination. The entire premise of the book, as far as my intuition is concerned, is to deliver a message. That message being the promotion author's personal social ideological concepts and eastern philosophical beliefs. The only reason anything written concerning metaphysics strikes any cord with anyone is because the author got the information from the same place you did. A book. I could right a book right now borrowing from all kinds of eastern philosophies and New Age rhetoric and of course it might parallel the beliefs of other New Age practitioners and Spiritualist.

That Tom Chalko guy and the author bragged a lot about how there is nothing in the book that could be proven inaccurate. Granted, the burden of proof is on them seeing no one in the world can disprove that I am the Creator and I just made this universe, its physics, and its history two seconds ago. However, there are some things in the book which can be scientifically disproven.

Ionizing radiation does not pick and choose which organic matter it will ionize. Be this organic material an ant, roach, or a human being; all three are going to die if exposed to lethal amounts.

Ants and roaches are not going to become gigantic versions of their smaller selves while humans slowly mutate and die. If there is enough radiation to cause an organic life form to mutate(which is pure science fiction), there is enough to cause it to die outright. People exposed to lethal radiation die within a time frame of a day to a week. They may bleed, lose mental capability, vomit, etc., but they do not mutate and deform during this time. Their molecules start losing electrons and their molecular composition deteriorates and they die.

ON the subject of giant space ants, is anyone aware of how much meat it would require to sustain one colony of ants the size of cows? That's around a 100 thousand carnivores the size of cows at the LEAST... left to feed on a dying planet with hardly enough plant life to support the herbivores. And since when does radiation cause beneficial mutations? These ants developed lungs to support their giantism... via mutation by radiation??? Radio active particles that by nature stripe electrons from atoms which in turn guarantee death(not mutation) if the atmosphere was filled with such particles.

The author has read far too much science fiction as a child. I'm surprised the humans didn't just become 10 mile high giants as well:)

What about the Sons of Belial?

I am definantly not going to try anything from a website that shows the pentagram upsidedown everywhere, has the name satan in the domain, and I do not want to judge, but people who even try to give any repute to the devil is just plain dumb.  

Why?

Because the hateful, jealous, genocidal, prejudiced, vindictive god of the Bible, who is threatening everyone to do as he commands or suffer in fire, says Satan is bad?

When has Satan ever threatened anyone to torment for no reason?

In any case there is no such thing as satanic energy. Energy is energy. That site was designed for shock value which makes it pretty hard to take them seriously sometimes.

Is this possible and how would you achieve it??

But..... Who would want to be immortal anyway. I'd go crazy

With wisdom and knowledge of the workings of the organic organism one could, through technological or spiritually means, change the very fabric of their genetic makeup in a way in which the cells of the body would reproduce new cells instead of exact copies at the age of 20.

I'm not sure what would be the point of such a process. I have heard of a particular group of ancient alien "creator gods" who have done this to themselves.

1.) Do you think Angels, Demons, Spirits, Ghosts, or Negs exist?

Yes, Yes, Yes, Not exactly, and Yes. I believe that the personality of a person's previous earthly existence could persevere after the Being has departed, but I do not believe that actual Beings stick around in an ethereal shell.

2.) Do you think it's possible but the living are not affected?

Possible? Yes. Probable? Unlikely. In reality as I understand it? No

3.) Does your religion tell you the above exist? Do you believe them?

I have no orthodox set of beliefs.

4.) Do you believe calling upon a higher power can help you?

If the higher power helps you, yes:)

5.) If you believe in Angels & not Devils/Negs, how can there be one without the other?

I believe in the existence of both. An angel is an angel, just like a demon is a demon. If all demons ceased to exist there would still be those beings I refer to as angels and visa verse. Furthermore, a deva is to an Angel is to an Archangel is to a Watcher; as a human is to a Master is to a Divinity is to a Demon. As I understand reality, angels and demons are not of the same "species".

6.) If you believe in Negs, then why not call upon Angels to help you?

Never needed help.

7.) Are you truly in belief or are you just open to the possibility?

Belief is nothing more than being open to the possibility. That is why you believe and not know.

8.) Have you ever experienced psychic phenomena in physical life like poltergeists?

No poltergeists, but I have been attacked by negs in the astral.

The medical establishment is quite aware of this phenomenon, but has a less sensational name than "old hag syndrome" for it. They call it "sleep paralysis" or SP (sometimes ISP for "isolated sleep paralysis").

So what causes it? Dr. Max Hirshkowitz, director of the Sleep Disorders Center at the Veterans Administration Medical Center in Houston, says that sleep paralysis occurs when the brain is in the transition state between deep, dreaming sleep (known as REM sleep for its rapid eye movement) and waking up. During REM dreaming sleep, the brain has turned off most of the body's muscle function so we cannot act out our dreams - we are temporarily paralyzed.

Old Hag Syndrome is alittle different. I have had sleep paralysis twice and I never felt like anything was on my chest. People who suffer the Old Hag even see something sitting on them. There are even people who see a big ape-man creature with ram horns sitting on their chest and even speaking to them. Both could be subconscious projections, but it's more than mere paralysis.

Shadow beings are very very VERY bad, don't try to embrace em at all.  

"Yeah, Americans are very very VERY bad, don't try to embrace em at all."

I'm sure there are plenty of people who have had negative experiences with Americans.

Hello Middle Way
  I have seen them inside and outside. They are a combination of elements mainly air. It is why I believe it is an air elemental manifestation. Other than that everyone can believe what they want to believe. I live in the desert so the elementals do not get agitated as much and are stronger here.
     Nita

I don't think you understand what I'm asking you.

You say that something is an air elemental. But what has lead you to believe that such a thing exists. I see alot of things in the air, but I have not had any expereince to make me associated something as being an "air-thing". Do you know what I mean?

And what element of  air? Are you saying it is an oxygen elemental? A nitrogen elemental? An argon elemental? A carbon dioxide elemental?

I don't comprehend how a non-physical entity can be an air anything.

I mean that separate sparkles pop in and out. If that's not the case, then yeah, we're talking about two different things.

Yeah, I think we are on different pages. These things reminded me of a massive school of fish although they did not move simultaneously as one unit like fish, but rather individually in one general direction.