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Hello all, me and a bunch of friends are going to have a weekly theology discussion, this website has all the details http://www.geocities.com/discusstheology/

Drop me a line if you are interested. (MSN) greatgasby5@hotmail.com
                                                    (Yahoo) harrison302000@yahoo.com

Thanks for all your comments, especially Franks. Perhaps I should clarify what my posistion is regarding AP. I don't believe or disbelieve in AP, I don't know if its real or not, so thats why I want to experience it, to see what it is with my own two eyes. So, basically, I don't have any beliefs either way, and according to most of the posts here, I should be good to go, thank you. Oh and Frank, do you have MSN or Yahoo, I would like to add you to my list so that we may discuss AP further, If you so desire. Thanks.

Do you have to believe that AP is real to actually do it? I have been hearing alot of people say you need motivation or whatnot, and think it is real or something. Is it true? Because I'm an Agnostic, so I really don't believe either way, I'm trying to research God and many supernatural phenomena. I want to AP to see if it is either A. A load of sh*t B. Real or C. Can't know,, so I thought what better way to see which it is than to go and actually do it! Thanks.

(Responding to markulous)
Thanks man, it is starting to make sense to me, but if its that confusing to me who hasn't experienced it, I'm sure it's even more confusing to you who has experienced it, lol.

(Responding to everyone)
Thanks all for your details of how real astral projection feels. I hope mine will about as real or close to it.

(Responding to markulous)
So let me get this straight, the experience during it can seem real or dreamlike, but when your back in your physical body, your memories of it are dreamlike?? I'm confused myself, but thanks for the reply anyway

I have a question that I hope both novice and veteran astral projectors can help in answering. Now, when your in the astral dimension, what does it feel like? More specifically, is the experience of being in this reality feel like normal, waking reality? Does it feel MORE than that? Does it feel just all like a dream? I want to know because soon I too will be going into the astral for the first time (consciously that is) and I want to know before I make that "leap" into it. Thank you.

Hmm, first of all, although fear can't be used to PROVE astral projection, theres no reason to think that it can DISPROVE it either. Take for example my childhood fear: my fear of tigers. As a child I would look at them to be big, murderous, vicious beasts. Now that I matured, I still have a fear of them almost as much. Now because the fear is there, does that mean the tiger doesn't exist? No. Does it mean its merely a hallucination or some other thing? Not at all. I know it's rowofmushytit's mistake to believe that fear in its self is the way to know that astral projection is a verifiable experience. I myself do not see emotionalism as proof for anything for the supernatural, or anything else for that matter, at least not a substitute for full, empirical evidence used to support any extraordinary claims ("Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." comes to mind), but I see it at least as a START for further investigation. Like with your spider analogy, Telos. When you saw that spider as a child, you were scared because of lack of knowledge, but years later, you looked into it as an adult,  and you saw that there was nothing to support your fears or claims, so you stopped believing in it. I kind of use this "starting off point" for my personal quest for God. I felt something there, something deep down. So I explored it. I still am actually, and quite frankly, I'm not disappointed so far. So anyway, I'm still myself seeing if astral projection is real or not. But what is reality anyway? Did you know that what we finally  receive from our senses, what you see now, is basically a watered down, little image of what there actually is? That's just the nature of how our brain works. Theres just too much to take in all at once, so it does the best in the end to construct a fairly good image, at least for the purposes it sets out to do, of whats "real". And even if this wasn't true, how do we know that reality that is real? Our senses can be tricking us, so even something as seemingly "stable" as reality can seem to be, is in itself at the end of the day can be very subjective. We just don't know. We can have all the images and evidence we want, all the third party viewpoints, anything, in the end we just take it for fact, and I'm not saying that's not logical, far from it. All I'm trying to point out is that this is basically the same way with  trying to prove or disprove astral projection. We can have all the fear, emotion, empirical evidence, card reading, anything we want, it basically all boils down to whether the individual believes in it or not. Call me a lunatic or whatever you wish, that's what I think. Thank you.