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* James looks at Sarah's post and thinks she's right, but decides to say something anyway*

Abraham,

The truth of God is demonstrated through the love and acceptence of all His creation. All are perfect in God's eyes!

The Astral Pulse Forums are open to all Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, Wiccans, Spiritualists, Satanists, Odinists, Atheists and any other belief, sect, cult, religion, creed or philosophy.

We are here to talk about experiences NOT dogmas.

James.

we may be but he is not lol
just another instigator I see them all the time dont let him cause division amongs you all

A long way to go for me but like I said, it was a beginning and I am very grateful for that. Thanks for your response and fear played a big part in stopping me from having them before but I am trying to think, nothings gonna hurt me and I guess from those thoughts I was able to go that little bit further from the sleep paralysis stage where I have always woke myself out of them in the past. Thanks for your thoughts and much appreciated

Cheers

Gordy

fear was my biggest issue untill I actually understood what sleep paralysis was and once I knew it was my mind actually putting my body to sleep so I didnt hurt myself in my sleep it was much easier

another thing that stopped me was being afraid of the vibrations

once I read all about this stuff and saw it was natural and normal and I had to control my fear getting out was much easier

fear is the biggest thing that stops people from making it out

Finally broke the ice, finally phew!

November 23rd 2.00 am 2005

G'day folks, it's been a long time coming but its sure worth it.*s*

Last night was the night for me...to turn Mr Skeptic around lol

There I was, half sitting/lying on the sofa in my family room very

much on my own in a sleepy dozy state while watching some old war

documentaries on Cable TV, when it happened.

All of a sudden I felt this swoosh and I my whole being was spinning

around very fast and flying upwards towards the ceiling.

I suddenly realised that this was it, big time, my mind was wide awake and I knew it was an OBE.

The only thing about it was it was dark, very dark all around and

looked like a starry night sky.

I remember reading something Sylvia Browne said when in a situation

like this and to say, 'let there be light' and then quickly as a

flash unbelievably, everything was shining bright.

Next thing I thought about was something I'd previously seen

mentioned in one of the forums, try to validate it for

proof...simply by pushing my hand through the wall...it disappeared

on attempt. I started smiling and laughing because felt I was at

last in the Astral. I was felt so enormously happy, I'd done it,

I'd done it lol

Then I thought about my mom, I just wanted to see my mom and next

minute there she was, smiling at me and a younger version of mom

too. Lets say, probably thirtyish.

She had a pinnafore on standing by the fridge smiling and looking

very happy. She took a jug of milk from within and then walked

across in front of me to the table, talking along the way but I

couldn't hear anything at all. I could see her lips moving but no

sound.

I was so elated, joyfully happy but then I thought I don't want to

ever wake up or come out of this and by just thinking that thought

I shot back...zoom...and onto the couch again, drat!

Anyway, I came to realise this was just a start and now I am happy

no matter how insignificant or short it was.
I jumped up off the sofa when reality became evident and grabbed a

slip of paper excitedly writing down every detail I could bring to

mind...and what I have written above is exactly how it all

happened.

I hope some one can enlighten me more on whether it definately was

an OBE as I believe it was plus, I would love some further

interpretations on it, enhancing and finding the ability to make it

become more frequent.

Thanks folks and I dearly would appreciate some extra feed back

to solidify that validation.

Cheers and God Bless

Gordy

I still remember my first obe on purpose lol
yep I was excited too cept I didnt  like how I looked when I was asleep
I scared myself a little

Supposedly this is a meditation that activates the 12 strands of DNA

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/LIGHT%20BODY%20METHODS.html

Enjoi

I honestly believe it is a scam to get money from folks who don't know any better
not this link but the one above with judy dragon on the site
I personally dont know her but I can say that looks like a scam to me
only my opinion of course

I don't understand how it is a money scam, the information is presented completly free?

If you were going to make money, wouldn't you have to charge something for the meditation process to make money?

I inserted the wrong link if you read the whole thing you will see I was speaking of judy dragon saying a free dna activation but only if you pay 80 dollars for the appt

I dont see that as free

read the whole message

I want to see my aura and i need to learn as many techniques as possible to open my third eye. I heard with third eye u see aura. It's because yesterday when practicing NEW in my hands i felt a very slight pressure when getting my fingers very close together and i want to see it and tell if its improving everytime i practice. So any good source you know? Thanks!

http://www.mudrashram.com/thirdeye.html
here is just one link of many you can find by google
and how to open your third eye in search queue

Lately I have been learning alot about the lack of information on DNA activation. I know or always have known that there are keys or symbols, holographic symbols of sound and light that are keys to activating certain parts of our DNA for ASCENSION.  There are alot of sites you can find on the subject, but I wouldn't say any one is correct or wrong, I would say the many sites out there may help you to open up to your own truth of knowing your own path.  I am currently working on developing or finding a system that will express the language of "creation" or "holographic language" in it's dimensional form of light and sound at the present time it is hard to explain or show because it would be like making the earth flat.

The best resource I have found to date on DNA activation and Ascension is

http://www.ascendpress.org/

Here is a Quote from the Ascended Press.

that is a great site more information and not just trying to get you to make an appt for 80 bucks

Stamboe's got it right here.

This is the reason behind why "alternative" treatments such as Reiki, Accupuncture, Accupressure, Reflexology,  Bowen therapy, etc.  all have a very good record for curing illnesses.

Mainstream medicine only looks at the physical and more recently the mental aspects of illness. They rarely look at the emotional, and the "spiritual" (energy body) causes.

Most illnesses are physical manifestations of emotional problems and / or deficiencies in the energy body

So then, why are the therapy methods I mentioned still considered mystical mumbo jumbo of no real benefit?
Pharmeceutical companies are among the worlds richest corporations.
The medical industry also one of the richest industries.

If people learn how to treat the non-pysical roots of physical illness, they'd stop getting sick.
Mainstream medicine doesn't actually want people being fully cured of illnesses and not get ill. There's no money to be made that way.

Blessings,
James.

I personally do not know any that has been cured by any natural means
I know a lot that has tried and died though

no they wouldn't because the FDA wouldn't make any money that way. there's already like 5-10 known cures in different countries

well like what for example
I havent heard of this

Supposedly this is a meditation that activates the 12 strands of dna

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/LIGHT%20BODY%20METHODS.html

Enjoi

I honestly believe it is a scam to get money from folks who dont know any better
not this link but the one above with judy dragon on the site
I personally dont know her but I can say that looks like a scam to me
only my opinion of course

i seem to have a problem which is everyone can read my mind it seems. I am wondering how to block people from reading your mind and hearing the voice in my head.

something happened to me one time sort of like this
I was in the parking lot of a store and a guy was coming out and when he got close to my car suddenly I seem to be able to hear him talking in his mind
it was about his dog rocket and the dog had died of parvo and he was in serious grief / it made me cry right there in the parking lot

maybe your emotions at the time have something to do with it

I know this is the only time this has happened that I could actually hear the words in someones mind and I dont really care for it to happen again but I promise you I spent a whole week praying for this guy that dog was all he had in this world in his mind anyways at that time
I am sure he probably had some family and friends but at that time in his mind that little dog rocket was everything to him

yep I still remember the dog's name and the store was on 44th % shields in okc this is one experience I will never forget

Not talking about me either?  

Suprised you missed Tisha and Peacefulwarrior...they haven't been active in more than a year already..

Oh well..I guess James and I have gone by unnoticed...

Didn't notice it being more quiet, but perhaps we can all discuss it in a seperate thread...lol..

I havent been on much lately either Major Tom hows it going

hmm.....

That last bit about Newton sounds intriguing, lol... perhaps one could arrange such a mechnaism or apparatus in order to remain in theta-state for other reasons as well, such as a light attempt at projection.... the only drawback may be that to perform a static, yet conscious action may bring up difficulty in entering theta-state to begin with... a thought  

there has been a simple one around for a long time
just hold up your forearm and it will drop when you start falling asleep

oh yeah dont believe what folks write about salvia making you trip
I still have a ton of that [edit] and it aint no good

(well i just felt a lil hot and a bit of the back and to the left pull) then a bong of 5x salvia with a torch lighter in a dark room whilst relaxed and B00M! gone ... felt myself merge with my bed/wall and enjoyed total weirdness with almost total ego death for about 5 minutes ... 2nd time semi breakthrough experience and had entities sat talking to me in the darkness whilst my whole world became a long undulating white line.

it does work its just sometimes it takes patience sometimes its subtle , other times its as subtle as a frag grenade

OK  I used a torch lighter and a crack pipe and the 5 x and smoke the whole sack I had and it aint worth excrement I promise you

Hi Andali,

Sometimes it's best to emphasize the non-threathening aspects. Like for example, say you are "meditating" or doing "relaxation training".

That can be a problem also, since some poeple feel meditation is dangerous.

yeah I was told I would be opening my mind up to the devil and get demon posessed

I dont really worry about such things

[Mod Edit: With respect we'd like to stay on-topic and not let things slide to arguing amongst oneselves regarding respective views about religion. That's what the religious section is for.]

FEMMSTARR, I'm sorry but I can't just let that post go without putting in my view.

Mod Edit: With respect we'd like to stay on-topic and not let things slide to arguing amongst oneselves regarding respective views about religion. That's what the religious section is for.

Just a thought.  No offense towards anyone.  

Oh, and Andali, if the situation with your mother gets really bad, then perhaps, as a last resort, look up Robert Peterson's online book and show her the sections where he talks about religion (a few places, scattered about the book).  Maybe that will change her mind like it did mine.  I hope things get better for you soon.  

Peace.

oh I think you can post your opinion without folks getting offended I know I am not easily offended  I have plenty of christian friends and love them all I just dont try to talk them out of it and they dont try to talk me into it and we get along fine

and this can be moved to the religious section as far as I am concerned
as I think we did get it in the wrong area

The topic keeps cropping up and it's beginning to really get on my nerves because I can't seem to get my point across no matter what angel I try to go in at.  Whether it be from dreaming, or even something else, she refuses to even consider my point of view.

Andali

Sorry but you cannot help brainwashed christians I have never seen it done before
that religion is the worst for scaring folks into believeing all that they say and anything that is not from them is from the devil

that is one of the first things they teach christians is  fear the devil and the pastor only speaks gospel (the true truth to them but to us that know better it is the big lie)
sorry my friend but that is one argument you will never win no matter what the real truth is

I am a mere high school student. why?

oh I was just curious so right now you are just a student of life I see

LOL...yeah...i'm nowhere near hyper either. gotta love those chocolate highs and crashes .  i'm the type of person that can down a couple esspresso and go to sleep. thanx for the thing about the website. god it was ages ago when i threw that together...someday i got go work all that out. i don't know where anything is in there, but thanks.

ps has any tried the dream herb ever?!?

I havent heard of it which herb is it?

I have been using Salvia for a month. I prefer not to smoke so I have been using the quid method. You hydrate dry leaves and then chew them. The first 4 to 5 times I didn't feel a thing. It apparently takes time to get results for some people. I have heard that it has a reverse tolerance. Meaning the more times you us it the less you need to get the desired effects I chew about 3 sets of leaves in about 30 minutes then lay down and close my eyes and I feel like I just drift away. For me it takes only seconds to get to the deep meditative state that takes 1/2 hour without salvia. I have only used raw leaf and very low dosage. I got my leaf from www.iamshaman.com and I have heard that www.mazatecgarden.com has some of the best salvia. I also recently joined a forum that is exclusively about Salvia Divinorum. It is very informative an I highly recommend it. You can find it at www.entheology.org.

I got mine from the same place you did and it wasnt worth my time or money / I promise not a thing and I did it evey way you could
the smoke the chew the tea and forget it waste of time for me

oh man, if you can't handle a hit of pot...i'm not sure about salvia?!?
here's a link though http://www.sagewisdom.org/salviashop.html
also check out http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml.

have you tried shrums bcuz that would be more gentle at first. maybe a tea of valerian, dream herb, chamomile, etc. you can't go around all day gulping down cokes or coffee, chocolate bars and the like, and then try to meditate (not saying that thats what you're doing).

all the power to ya.
333

oh yeah dont believe what folks write about salvia making you trip
I still have a ton of that excrement and it aint no good

oh man, if you can't handle a hit of pot...i'm not sure about salvia?!?
here's a link though http://www.sagewisdom.org/salviashop.html
also check out http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml.

have you tried shrums bcuz that would be more gentle at first. maybe a tea of valerian, dream herb, chamomile, etc. you can't go around all day gulping down cokes or coffee, chocolate bars and the like, and then try to meditate (not saying that thats what you're doing).

all the power to ya.
333

well now that is exactly what I do lol and I can still meditate but I am not the least bit hyper either I am hypo thyroid so I need the chocolate
I need the chocolate oh wait I already said that
btw I like your website was gonna sign your guest book but I didnt see a place to do it  

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I'm basically going to use this for meditation enhancement. I meditate daily and I just sit and nothing happens. I can't focus and I can never sit still. It's so frign hard for me to relax. So the next best thing for me to do is resort to drugs. So be it.


So I'm going to experiment with Salvia. If that doesn't work, I'll try something else. Now I'm not looking for green men from Mars. Just the ability to focus a little better.

Salvia, what do you think? I've also heard of another plant called
Kratom. Anybody have any luck with that?

I regret to try to resort to having to use drugs to focus and perhaps have an OBE, however I am frustrated with not being able to progress. It's been months and months of practice and I still can't relax well.

Kevin

I dont regret using drugs .................I havent been hurt by them and I have been moderate I am not an addict and smoke a little a couple of times a month nothing drastic

oh yes I do have some morning glory seed the flying saucers variety I am going to try out when I get some time off from work will let you know what happens

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I'm basically going to use this for meditation enhancement. I meditate daily and I just sit and nothing happens. I can't focus and I can never sit still. It's so frign hard for me to relax. So the next best thing for me to do is resort to drugs. So be it.

So I'm going to experiment with Salvia. If that doesn't work, I'll try something else. Now I'm not looking for green men from Mars. Just the ability to focus a little better.

Salvia, what do you think? I've also heard of another plant called
Kratom. Anybody have any luck with that?

I regret to try to resort to having to use drugs to focus and perhaps have an OBE, however I am frustrated with not being able to progress. It's been months and months of practice and I still can't relax well.

Kevin

I can tell you the salvia I got from iamshaman was worthless didnt feel a thing and didnt help to meditate at all
I got the bud itself and then some of the 5x and no good at all

I've just started Mastering Astral Projection after mucking around with it a little bit but having very limited success... i really got interested in it when i heard Robert on Dreamland. My Gran had died about 6 months ago who i was very close to and that's my main motivation for doing this! if there is a way i can see her again before i die then I'm there!

well you are going to see her after you die too
and hi there

Naaa, that actually did not help very much but thank you for trying? Are anybody going to help me dig a hole that I can throw myself into now that I have been discovered to be the lamest person alive No?

Can anyone explain to me why my mother goes around telling me that "Life is like a box of chocolate" ?

because you never know what you are gonna get?

and what are you a student of may I ask?