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For last few days I have been trying to do OBE, with the method I found on http://research.obe4u.com/.

Last night, I set my alarm clock for 6 am and shuffled deck of cards, pick one without looking at it and placed it face up on the windowsill. I also turned my mobile phone off (powered down), I do it every night.

About 10 min after 3 am I woke up and noticed that my mobile phone was on and the screen was all white nothing on it, it was frozen so I couldn't turn it off the normal way I had to pull the battery off. I went back to bed and slept till morning, didn't get any chance for OBE... In the morning I checked the card and it was 3 of diamond.

Strange that the card was 3, I woke up about 3 and the phone turned itself on about that time. I remember from emily rose film that the 3 is the number when evil mocks the good.

Hello guys.

I'll start with a short intro. Few years back I had what I think it was a Lucid Dream. I was fully aware and the dream istelf was super vivid and real the only comparison I can think of is that it was like a Halucination never before I had anything like it and I remembered it perfectly. I enjoyed it so much that I got interested in the subject.

I tried for a while without much luck to get similar experience and eventually gave up (in the time of few months I only had 2 LDs and none of them was even in 10% of clarity and vividness of the first one).

Then few months ago after long trip I slept about 8-10 hours but when I woke up it was still night (I went to bed early), so I he decided to sleep more. While I was laying and trying to fall asleep, after not long, maybe 10-20min I started to feel or maybe better describe it as hear in my head a buzzing noise it was only few seconds but it was the feeling of falling into a Trance state as I recently read in Robert Bruce's Astral Projection Treatises.
Whole happening was like this, I felt buzzing and in a split second I felt sudden quick drop through bed down to a dream (Trance) state, I didn't loose consciousness at all. I found myself in a fairly uninteresting dream as it was a room I never seen before and things were a bit different than in reality so I am assuming it was an Astral Projection of a kind.

Now to the point.

After reading Adtral Projection Tretises. I tried only couple times so far the technique described there to achieve AP. here's what I do:

• lay down in a bed and relax first
• then I do breathing meditation to clear mind
• lastly I think about either going down the ladder/stairs or climbing the rope (depending if I try just Trance or to get an OBE)

Now my question is, what to do to get into the trance? If I lay and constantly think of not thinking to clear my mind it tires me a bit but my mind is to active to fall asleep. When I unleash my mind and let it imagine I fall asleep quickly but I am loosing the awareness of whole process. Sometimes I try for an hour or longer and nothing I can't get into.

How do you guys do it?