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[- "Projectarium Project", to do OBE experiments:]

Hi everybody, maybe some of you already know about the Projectarium Project, but perhaps some other ones don't.

This Projectarium Project is designed to test and to do experiments about OBEs.

This is the info:

- "Projectarium Project", to do OBE experiments:
In English: http://www.iacworld.org/English/Sciences/Research/Projectarium.asp

Brief excerpt:

Projectarium Project

Few examples of psychic phenomena have raised more debate concerning the characteristics of human consciousness and the nature of the relationship between mind and body than the Out-of-Body Experience (OBE) and the Near-Death Experience (NDE).

The study of the consequences that such phenomena appear to provoke in the individual who experiences them has merited the attention of scientists from all over the world. The vast majority of researchers agree that the Near-Death Experience and the Out-of-Body Experience typically result (almost in the totality of cases) in a positive change in life values, in an improvement in social and interpersonal relations, and in greater value and respect for others (see details in the "Conceptual and Empirical Foundations" in the complete project).

Through theoretical analysis and empirical observation, it can be inferred that the Near-Death Experience (NDE) phenomenon is, technically speaking, an Out-of-Body Experience (OBE) induced by various external factors. In this case, these are factors that compromise the health and continuity of the individual's life. In practical terms, many of the existing occurrences of these phenomena, as well as their benefits, are analogous. In this sense, scientific investigation into one of these phenomena promotes the understanding of the other.

Even though the OBE mainly occurs spontaneously, it can also be willfully induced. The NDE, on the other hand, occurs in extreme situations that are independent of the individual's will. Therefore, the Out-of-Body Experience is the ideal phenomena in which to realize experiments that try to understand and explain these phenomena. Presently, these phenomena lack consistent empirical experimentation that facilitates a more detailed comprehension of them and of the effects they produce.

In order to fill this scientific gap, IAC has developed experimental research and public survey projects concerning the OBE, which have yielded significant results.

In light of the vast existing theoretical foundations that have been laid by professionals from different areas of expertise (see "Conceptual Foundations" in the complete project) concerning the interaction and influence that the environment has on the human being, an essential question can be formulated: can an environment with technically optimized conditions facilitate the production of psychic experiences and produce consistent benefits for the individual?

Starting from the hypothesis that an environment with optimized conditions for the induction of psychic experiences facilitates the development of these experiences and that these lead to an improvement in the individual's balance and quality of life, this project proposes the construction of a prototype of such a laboratory, called Projectarium (term proposed by Vieira, 2002). In this fashion, through an innovative experimental design, we can reach conclusions that validate or refute this hypothesis.

Through the construction of this laboratory, it is intended: (1) to test if an optimized physical environment produces psychic experiences, (2) to verify the character of the results obtained and (3) discover the effective level of benefits obtained by the individuals that register these experiences.

From a psychological and clinical point of view, it is important to better understand the mechanisms and benefits that, according to studies, can be obtained through psychic phenomena, such as the out-of-body experience.........etc.

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Additional info:

- Nelson Abreu, Electrical Engineering student from Florida who has founded a University Student Club to study human consciousness. They do OBE experiments.
The First Student Club of Conscientiology
http://iacworld.org/Spanish/Publications/Journal/Archives/Vol05/JCN20.asp
New in the Herald Goa (India): http://oheraldo.in/node/14303
Web site, THE SCIENCE OF SELF CLUB: http://cref.tripod.com/
New about Nelson in "The Pennsylvania State University":
http://www.pennstateprs.com/univcon/schedule_speakerinfo.shtml

Chao. qbeac.

["Teleportation Physics Study."]

Hi everybody,

The USA Military has recently (year 2004) approved for public release and distribution a very interesting and controversial research document titled "Teleportation Physics Study."

In this document they talk about things such as "Psi phenomenon" of different types, teleportation, remote viewing, astral projection, military intelligence, espionage (USA-URSS), high level concepts in modern physics such as parallel universes, wormholes, paradigm shifts, etc., and many other things.

Do you think the content of this document could imply a paradigm shift could happen in the near future?

Bellow you'll see a brief excerpt from this document (Note: the complete document is 78 pages long. This excerpt is about 8 pages long). But firstly, let's see where this document has been published, because it has been published in the FAS web site (Federation of American Scientists), which is a federeation endorsed by 67 Nobel Laureates.

So, let's see first what the FAS is:

- "About FAS", according to the FAS web site:
http://www.fas.org/static/about.jsp

The Federation of American Scientists (FAS) was formed in 1945 by atomic scientists from the Manhattan Project who felt that scientists, engineers and other innovators had an ethical obligation to bring their knowledge and experience to bear on critical national decisions, especially pertaining to the technology they unleashed - the Atomic Bomb.

Endorsed by 67 Nobel Laureates[/color] in chemistry, economics, medicine and physics, FAS addresses a broad spectrum of issues in carrying out its mission to promote humanitarian uses of science and technology. FAS members build on an honorable history of insisting that rational, evidence-based arguments be heard.

Some brief information about the Manhattan Project:

- Manhattan Project (wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project

The Manhattan Project refers to the effort to develop the first nuclear weapons during World War II by the United States with assistance from the United Kingdom and Canada. Formally designated as the Manhattan Engineering District (MED), it refers specifically to the period of the project from 1942-1946 under the control of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, under the administration of General Leslie R. Groves, with its scientific research directed by the American physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer.

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This is a brief excerpt of the USA Military paper about Teleportation (only several pieces of it). It is recommended to read the complete original document, which is full of mathematical equations, formulas, diagrams, and so on:

- Teleportation Physics Study (telekinesis)
AIR FORCE RESEARCH LABORATORY.
AIR FORCE MATERIEL COMMAND.
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE CA 93524-7048.
APPROVED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE; DISTRIBUTION UNLIMITED.
Eric W. Davis. Warp Drive Metrics. 4849 San Rafael Ave. Las Vegas, NV 89120 August 2004. Special Report
URL: http://www.fas.org/sgp/eprint/teleport.pdf

14. ABSTRACT

This study was tasked with the purpose of collecting information describing the teleportation of material objects, providing a description of teleportation as it occurs in physics, its theoretical and experimental status, and a projection of potential applications. The study also consisted of a search for teleportation phenomena occurring naturally or under laboratory conditions that can be assembled into a model describing the conditions required to accomplish the transfer of objects. This included a review and documentation of quantum teleportation, its theoretical basis, technological development, and its potential applications. The characteristics of teleportation were defined and physical theories were evaluated in terms of their ability to completely describe the phenomena. Contemporary physics, as well as theories that presently challenge the current physics paradigm were investigated.

The author identified and proposed two unique physics models for teleportation that are based on the manipulation of either the general relativistic spacetime metric or the spacetime vacuum electromagnetic (zero-point fluctuations) parameters. Naturally occurring anomalous teleportation phenomena that were previously studied by the United States and foreign governments were also documented in the study and are reviewed in the report. The author proposes an additional model for teleportation that is based on a combination of the experimental results from the previous government studies and advanced physics concepts. Numerous recommendations outlining proposals for further theoretical and experimental studies are given in the report. The report also includes an extensive teleportation bibliography.

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FOREWORD

This Special Technical Report presents the results of a subcontracted study performed by Warp Drive Metrics, Las Vegas, NV, under Contract No. F04611-99-C-0025, for the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL)/Space and Missile Propulsion Division, Propellant Branch (PRSP), Edwards AFB, CA. The Project

Manager for AFRL/PRSP was Dr. Franklin B. Mead, Jr. This report has been reviewed and is approved for release and distribution in accordance with the distribution statement on the cover and on the SF Form 298. This report is published in the interest of scientific and technical information exchange and does not constitute approval or disapproval of its ideas or findings.

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4.0 e-TELEPORTATION

4.1 Extra Space Dimensions and Parallel Universes/Spaces

A literature search for proposed e-Teleportation concepts based on the conveyance of objects through extra space dimensions and/or parallel universes/spaces has yielded only one result (see Section 4.2). The present state-of-art in research on parallel universes/spaces and extra space dimensions has been strictly limited to the work on developing a grand unified quantum field theory and a quantum theory of gravity, whereby the former necessarily includes the latter. Quantum gravity/unified field theory research has been evolving since the 1920s when Kaluza and Klein published the first papers to describe a model for the unification of gravity with electrodynamics. Many of the more prominent theories today invoke extra spatial dimensions, the existence of parallel universes/spaces, or both in order to quantise gravity and/or to unify gravity with the other forces of nature.

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4.2 Vacuum Hole Teleportation

An unusual teleportation concept has been proposed by Leshan (1999, 2002), which describes the teleportation of objects throughout our universe by using the geometrical properties of spacetime. The proposal posits that there is a "zero-space" that exists outside the boundary of our universe, whereby this zero-space is a "point form" space, where the distance between any two points is always equal to zero. Leshan also calls this space a "hole." Further requirements and assumptions of the model are:

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4.3 Conclusion and Recommendations

At present, none of the theoretical concepts explored in this chapter have been brought to a level of technical maturity, where it becomes meaningful to ascertain whether any form of e-Teleportation is theoretically possible between extra space dimensions and different or parallel universes/spaces. However, there is the exception that traversable wormholes (three- and higher-dimensional) provide a solid physics principle for the implementation of teleportation between parallel universes/spaces.

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5.1 PK Phenomenon

P-Teleportation is a form of psychokinesis (or PK) similar to telekinesis but generally used to designate the movement of objects (called apports) through other physical objects or over great distances. Telekinesis is a form of PK, which describes the movement of stationary objects without the use of any known physical force. And PK is essentially the direct influence of mind on matter without any known intermediate physical energy or instrumentation. Rigorously controlled modern scientific laboratory PK, and related psychic (a.k.a. "psi", "paranormal" or parapsychology), research has been performed and/or documented by Rhine (1970), Schmidt (1974), Mitchell (1974a, b, see also the references cited therein), Swann (1974), Puthoff and Targ (1974, 1975), Hasted et al. (1975), Targ and Puthoff (1977), Nash (1978, see also the references cited therein), Shigemi et al. (1978), Hasted (1979), Houck (1984a), Wolman et al. (1986, see also the references cited therein), Schmidt (1987), Alexander et al. (1990), Giroldini (1991), Gissurarson (1992), Radin (1997, see also the references cited therein), Tart et al. (2002), Shoup (2002), and Alexander (2003).

A well-known theoretical/experimental/operational program directed by H. E. Puthoff, R. Targ, E. May and I. Swann was conducted at SRI International and the NSA, and sponsored at various times by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and the Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) over more than two decades;

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The reader should note that the very first U. S. military-intelligence R&D programs on psi, PK and mind control were conducted by H. K. (Andrija) Puharich, M.D., L.L.D during his military service at the Army Chemical and Biological Warfare Center at Fort Detrick, Maryland in the 1940s-50s.

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A more spectacular series of rigorously controlled (and repeatable!) laboratory experiments occurred in the Peoples Republic of China (PRC). In September 1981, an extraordinary paper was published in the PRC in the journal Ziran Zazhi (transl.: Nature Journal), and this paper was entitled, "Some Experiments on the Transfer of Objects Performed by Unusual Abilities of the Human Body" (Shuhuang et al., 1981). The paper reported that gifted children were able to cause the apparent teleportation of small objects (radio micro-transmitters, photosensitive paper, mechanical watches, horseflies, other insects, etc.) from one location to another (that was meters away) without them ever touching the objects beforehand.

The experiments were operated under exceptionally wellcontrolled conditions (both blind and double-blind). The researchers involved included not only observers from various PRC colleges and medical research institutes, but also representatives from the PRC National Defense Science Commission. Because of the involvement of the latter, it was deemed necessary that an unclassified Intelligence Information Report be prepared by the DIA (see Shuhuang et al., 1981), which included a detailed English translation of the article.

Additional research carried out by the Aerospace Medicine Engineering Institute in Beijing was reported in the July 1990 issue of the Chinese Journal of Somatic Science (Kongzhi et al., 1990; Jinggen et al., 1990; Banghui, 1990), which was also translated into English by the DIA.

Reported in several articles are experiments involving the videotaping and high-speed photography of the transfer of test specimens (nuts, bundles of matches, pills, nails, thread, photosensitive paper, chemically treated paper, sponges dipped in FeCl3, etc.) through the walls of sealed paper envelopes, double layered KCNS type paper bags, sealed glass bottles and tubes with sealed caps, and sealed plastic film canisters without the walls of any of these containers being breached.

All of the Chinese experiments reported using gifted children and young adults, who possessed well-known extraordinary PK ability, to cause the teleportation of the various test specimens. In all the experimental cases that were reported, the test specimens that were teleported were completely unaltered or unchanged from their initial state, even the insects were unaffected by being teleported. The experiments were well controlled, scientifically recorded, and the experimental results were always repeatable.

The Chinese papers are all extremely interesting and very well written, and they show photographs and schematic diagrams of the various experimental setups. The experimental protocols were explained in lengthy detail, and thorough data and statistical analysis were presented in the results. The combined results from the several Chinese experiments showed that:

1.- Different research groups designed different experimental protocols, used different gifted psychics, used different sealed containers, and used different test specimens (live insects, bulk
inanimate objects, and even radio micro-transmitters were used to track the location of the specimens) that were to be teleported;

2.- The time required for the teleportation of test specimens through various barriers was anywhere from a fraction of a second to several minutes, and this was not dependent on the test specimen that was used, the sealed container that was used (or its barrier thickness), which experimental protocol was used, or which psychic was being used

3.- The high-speed photography/videotaping recorded in one series of experiments that test specimens would physically "meld" or blend with the walls of sealed containers; and recorded in a different series of experiments that test specimens would simply disappear from inside the container only to reappear at another location (after seconds to several minutes of time transpired), such that the test specimen did not actually undergo total material disintegration/reintegration during teleportation – this data is important, because without the aid of electronic monitoring instruments, the average person's sensory organs and usual methods of detection are temporarily unable to perceive the test specimen's (ambiguous) existence during the teleportation process;

4.- The radio micro-transmitter used as a test specimen in one series of experiments (Shuhuang et al., 1981) transmitted a radio signal to several stationary electronic instruments/receivers, so that the specimen could be tracked and monitored (via signal amplitude and frequency measurements) during the teleportation process; the experimenters discovered that there was large fluctuations in the intensity (in both amplitude and frequency) of the monitored signal to the effect that it would either completely disappear or become extremely weak (to the extent that the monitoring instruments could scarcely detect it) – it was discovered that there was a definite correlation between the change in strength (i.e., radical frequency shifts were observed) of the monitored radio signal and the teleportation of the test specimen, such that the weak or absent signal indicated that the specimen was "nonexistent" (or in an altered physical state) during teleportation (note: the monitored signal amplitude and frequency of the micro-transmitter specimen were stable before and after teleportation);

5.- Before and after "passing through the container wall/barrier", the test specimen and the container's wall/barrier are both complete solid objects;

6.- The gifted psychics were never allowed to see (they were blindfolded in many experiments) or touch each of the test specimens or the sealed containers before and after experiments were conducted, and only the experimenters touched the specimens and containers (using both blind and double-blind protocols);

7.- The experimental results were all repeatable

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The Soviet information also mentions the psychotronic/parapsychology R&D materials that Soviet military forces took from various Nazi research centers in and around Germany at the end of WWII. The entire spectrum of parapsychology phenomena was explored by the Soviets, which resulted in the generation of a wealth of experimental data and related scientific research literature.

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The U.S. military-intelligence establishment was concerned with the possibility that the Soviets and their Warsaw Pact allies were conducting psychotronics and mind control R&D in order to discover how to exploit and control powerful phenomena that could be used against the U.S. and its allies.

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Also, LaMothe (1972) describes the revolutionary techniques the Soviets studied to influence human behavior, which included: sound, light, color, odors, sensory deprivation, sleep, electromagnetic fields, biochemicals, autosuggestion, hypnosis, and parapsychology phenomena (such as psychokinesis, telekinesis, extrasensory perception-ESP, astral projection, clairvoyance, precognition, and dream state, etc.). The LaMothe (1972) report became an aid in the development of countermeasures for the protection of U.S. and/or allied personnel.

Psychotronics is the general term that was used in the former Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact countries to categorize many psychic phenomena undergoing scientific research. The conclusions that were reached in the DIA reports are that within the category of psychotronics, the Soviets identified two discrete skills (LaMothe, 1972):

* Bioenergetics: those phenomena associated with the production of objectively detectable effects such as psychokinesis, telekinesis, levitation effects, transformations of energy, i.e. the altering or affecting of matter

* Bioinformation: those phenomena associated with the obtaining of information through means other than the normal sensory channels (i.e., ESP), such as telepathy, precognition, and clairvoyance, i.e., using the mind to tap into the thoughts of others or to acquire present or future information about objective events in the world

These phenomena involve using the mind and/or some "field" of the body to affect other minds and inanimate objects irrespective of intervening distance or elapsed time, and without engaging any conventional tools. Bioenergetics and bioinformation are two classifications that form a single branch of science the Soviets preferred to call biocommunications. Soviet biocommunications research is primarily concerned with exploring the existence of a definite group of natural phenomena controlled by laws that are not based on any known (energetic) influence. The types of biocommunication (a.k.a. psychotronics) phenomena includes special sensory biophysical activities, brain and mind control, telepathic communications or bioinformation transceiving, bioluminescent and bioenergetic emissions, and the effects of altered states of consciousness on the human psyche. Psychotronics and remote viewing provide capabilities that have obvious intelligence applications. The Soviets and their Warsaw Pact allies invested millions of dollars in psychotronics R&D because they understood this, and saw the potential payoff for military and intelligence applications.

The U.S. response to Soviet psychotronics R&D programs was the Remote Viewing program. In addition, the U.S. Army began the JEDI Project in 1983, which sought to increase human potential using teachable models of behavioral/physical excellent by unconventional means (Alexander et al., 1990).

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There is a wealth of factual scientific research data from around the world attesting to the physical reality of p-Teleportation and related anomalous psi phenomena (Mitchell, 1974b; Targ and Puthoff, 1977; Nash, 1978; Radin, 1997; Tart et al., 2002).

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5.1.1 Hypothesis Based on Mathematical Geometry

In the following I propose a parsimonious first-order hypothesis that can explain the gross features of both the Chinese p-Teleportation data and the other reported p-Teleportation phenomena. But I will refrain from including any role that might be played by quantum phenomena since the scientific community has not yet settled that particular issue. (However, it is apparent that quantum theory and quantum phenomena will likely play a key role in a formal physics theory of PK and psychotronics.)

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5.2 Conclusion and Recommendations

We will need a physics theory of consciousness and psychotronics, along with more experimental data, in order to test the hypothesis in Section 5.1.1 and discover the physical mechanisms that lay behind the psychotronic manipulation of matter. P-Teleportation, if verified, would represent a phenomenon that could offer potential high-payoff military, intelligence and commercial applications. This phenomenon could generate a dramatic revolution in technology, which would result from a dramatic paradigm shift in science. Anomalies are the key to all paradigm shifts!

- Recommendations:

There are numerous supporters within the U.S. military establishment who comprehend the significance of remote viewing and PK phenomenon, and believe that they could have strategic implications. Bremseth (2001), a U.S. Navy SEAL, attended the Marine War College and studied the Remote Viewing program, and interviewed many of the former program participants. Bremseth then wrote his thesis on the topic, and concluded that the evidence supported continued research and applications of remote viewing. A research program improving on and expanding, or implementing novel variations of, the Chinese and Uri Geller-type experiments should be conducted in order to generate p-Teleportation phenomenon in the lab. The performances and characteristics of p-Teleportation need to be delineated in order todevelop a refined hypothesis. Such a program should be designed so that an operational model for p-Teleportation can be developed and implemented as a prototype. An experimental program similar in fashion to the Remote Viewing program should be funded at $900,000 – 1,000,000 per year in parallel with a theoretical program funded at $500,000 per year for an initial five-year duration. The role of quantum physics theory and related quantum phenomena (i.e., entanglement and teleportation) in p-Teleportation and psychotronics should be explored in this program (see for example, the Biological Quantum Teleportation recommendation in Section 3.3). An experiment definition study should be conducted first to identify and propose the best experiments for this program, which should be funded at $80,000 for one year.

[Victor Zammit: A Lawyer Presents the Case for the Afterlife. Irrefutable Objective Evidence]

Hi everybody, this is a highly interesting information:

Victor Zammit: A Lawyer Presents the Case for the Afterlife. Irrefutable Objective Evidence

http://www.victorzammit.com/index.html

Book in English: http://www.victorzammit.com/book/index.html
Book in Spanish: http://www.victorzammit.com/book/spanish/index.html

Zammit's language menu: http://www.victorzammit.com/book/index.html

Chao, qbeac.

P.S. This is a brief excerpt of his book:

1. Opening statement

"Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and take for granted, but to weigh and consider."
Sir Francis Bacon

There is undeniable scientific evidence to-day for the afterlife. I am an open-minded skeptic lawyer, a former practicing attorney-at-law formally qualified in a number of university disciplines.

The argument that follows is not just an abstract, theoretical, academic legal argument. As an open-minded investigator, I set out to investigate the existing evidence for survival and with others to create conditions to test for ourselves claims that communication with intelligences from the afterlife is possible.

After many years of serious investigation I have come to the irretrievable conclusion that there is a great body of evidence which taken as a whole absolutely and unqualifiedly proves the case for the afterlife. I will not be arguing that the objective evidence has just very high value. Nor am I suggesting that this evidence be accepted beyond reasonable doubt. I am stating that the evidence taken as a whole constitutes overwhelming and irrefutable proof for the existence of the afterlife.

There have been millions of pages written about psychic phenomena and scientific research into the afterlife. Using my professional background as an attorney and my university training in psychology, history and scientific method, I have very carefully selected aspects of psychic research and afterlife knowledge and have argued the case in a way that would technically constitute objective evidence in the Supreme Court of the United States, the House of Lords in England, the High Court of Australia and in every civilized legal jurisdiction around the world.

When the objective evidence ¾ the electronic voice phenomena, instrumental transcommunication, psychic laboratory experiments, out of body experiences, near death experiences, xenoglossy, the best mediums, direct voice mediumship, the cross correspondences, the Scole experiments, proxy sittings, poltergeists, apparitions and all of the other evidence contained in this work is seen collectively ¾ the case for survival is absolutely stunning and irrefutable.

The evidence presented in this work also proves the existence of so-called 'psychic phenomena', which are interconnected with the afterlife and can only be explained satisfactorily by survival.

In absolute terms the evidence presented in this work will convince the rational and intelligent open-minded skeptic or the genuine searcher about the existence of the afterlife.

Why don't more people know about the scientific evidence?

For many years there has been hostility to psychic science in the mainstream media and in universities and in some of the churches. The discoveries of serious scientists working to prove the afterlife have been misreported, distorted and ignored. High profile closed-minded skeptics have been given unfair license by the media to ridicule, cheat and lie with the result that the general public know very little about the great body of scientific research which has been accumulated.

Many people who are genuinely seeking and are anxious to explore this fascinating area have not been able to access unbiased factual information because they may not have the skills or the time to read and analyze the huge number of fairly esoteric books and articles available on this subject (see Bibliography). In some societies these books are simply not available because of formal and informal censorship.

[Jerry Gross,]

Hello everybody, perhaps some of you may have heard of Jerry Gross, an experienced projector who teaches people how to project. I've read he is able to move a physical object from the astral plane.

Jerry's interview: http://www.near-death.com/gross.html
Jerry's HOME site: http://hometown.aol.com/rgross6162/

Brief excerpt from Jerry Gross' interview:

"In my workshops, I teach you to astral project by having you sit in a chair and go out and turn around and look at yourself. If you are lying in bed, you can rise up, turn around and look at yourself lying on the bed. You'll have proof enough when you are able to look at your physical body, from outside of it. I've been asked to prove this many times, in radio shows, and at the Whole Life Expo at the Los Angeles Convention Center where I traveled astrally from St. Paul, Minnesota to Los Angeles and moved a box they had set up on the stage for me. Once you learn how to do this you'll have proved this to yourself, and that's why I call my little group, Search and Prove. I want you to prove this to yourself for that's the ultimate proof. Don't take my word for it, prove it to yourself."
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Please, have any of you ever tried to move a physical object from the astral plane? Were you able to move it?

This is a very simple test you could do: Take an empty Coca-Cola can or bottle (typical aluminium can, 11 cm. tall by 6.5 cm diameter) and put it on a flat and smooth table. Those cans weight very little (only a few grams), and so, they are very easy to move from the physical plane, just give them a slight touch or blow and they'll start rolling.

You could perhaps try to push the can just enough to make it roll and fall down from the table, or push it so that it goes over a very small bump on the table (a tiny grain, or a thin thread, or something like that). That way, the can will not be able to roll back, and later on, when you wake up, you'll be able to check out if it really moved or not.

Do you think you could move the Coca-Cola can just a little bit from the astral plane?

Thanks. qbeac.

Hi moderators and administrators of this forum:

Please, would it be possible for you to include in each post the number of that post? For instance: in the heading of each post it should say: "Post #58"... etc.

When there are a great number of posts, it is very useful to refer to a previous post that somebody has written.

Thanks a lot. qbeac.

["Agnostic Method" (AM)]

Hello everybody:

Has anybody ever wondered whether Astral Traveling (or OBE, Out of Body Experiences) are real or imaginary experiences? Do you think there is any way to find out the difference for sure?

In a Spanish Science forum (//www.100cia.com) we have asked ourselves those same questions and we do believe there is a way to find out the difference for sure. This forum is specialized in Science and it has sub-forums for almost every Science field there is: Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, Biology, Medicine, Genetics, Engineering, Astronomy, Computer programming, etc., etc.

After several months debating this subject in depth, we have finally designed a very simple, but at the same time a very reliable and accurate scientific method, to verify if these experiences are real or imaginary.

Using this method, anybody who may have an OBE (Out of Body Experience) could very easily verify, in its own home and without having to use complicated technology, if his/her experiences are real or not. And that person could also give his relatives and friends very convincing scientific prove of the real nature of these experiences.

We have named this method "Agnostic Method" (AM) to verify astral traveling. This is the link in Spanish:

- Post #301 al #305, pag. 31. Detailed instructions of the Agnostic Method (original in Spanish):
http://www.100cia.com/opinion/foros/showthread.php?t=4290&page=31&pp=10

You'll find the English instructions of the Agnostic Method in this Post and in the next 3 Posts, that is, Post #1 to Post #4 of this page.

We would be very interested in contacting people who may know how to do astral travelling and would be willing to try out Agnostic Method to see what happens.

Best regards. qbeac.

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HOW YOU CAN COLLABORATE IN THE EXPERIMENTS

Anybody may collaborate in the experiments in two ways: by being a "projector", or by helping a projector. In the second case we call that person the "controller".

In order to do the experiments, the idea is to go step by step, and to move forward with each particular projector in a very gradual manner, adjusting the experiment itself (tasks to perform, rhythm, etc.) to his/her own personal circumstances, level of expertise, and preferences. We would start with very easy things to do (very low level of difficulty), and little by little we will move forward till we finally try to get to the highest level each projector desires to reach. So it is up to you (projector) to decide how far you desire to go. We will simply move along with you offering our help in anything we can. That's the idea.

These are some important considerations about the experiments in general:

- The general instructions in English of the Agnostic Method are in the first page of this very thread:

- Method to verify if OBE are real or imaginary experiences (See Post #1 to Post #4)
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20907

- Variants of the Agnostic Method. As you can see in the previous link, the Agnostic Method includes several variants, or version, for instance: reading two words taken at random from a dictionary, reading numbers, digits, playing cards from a deck, etc. Plus, we can add other variants in case a particular projector is used to work with other types of targets (Ex: symbols, objects, etc.). In other words, you may suggest other variants if they are not already in the list and we will calculate the probability of guessing them by chance.

The variant of reading the two words from a dictionary is the most reliable one from a mathematical point of view, but it is not the only way to obtain scientific proof. There are also other possibilities and some of them maybe easier than the words' variant. Each projector may choose the variant that suits him/her the best. It's up to you to choose the method you feel more comfortable with. For instance, we could also do experiments with Group OBE, in which two persons meet in the astral plane and exchange relevant information. That's like having a conversation in the astral plane, which leads us to the next point: alternative methods of verification.

- Other alternative and valid methods of OBE, astral verification and abnormal phenomenon in general: Besides reading the words (or numbers, digits, etc.), there are other alternative and valid methods of verification (Ex: Group OBE, astral telekinesis, regular telekinesis, etc. In general, any abnormal phenomenon from the stand point of the scientific community will be a valid proof), and from the stand point of some projectors, some of the other methods maybe easier than reading the words. Each projector may decide which methods he/she prefers or feel more comfortable with. You'll find those other methods in section 4 of the "Instructions of the Agnostic Method" (check the following posts), or also in the following link:

- Post #3. I did a RTZ verification experiment this morning (Tombo)
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21581

- We are going to be talking regularly about the details of the experiment in the previous link. That will be our regular meeting place.

- This is very important: Projectors, don't worry, because we are not expecting perfect results!!! Partial results will also be good enough and will also be accepted by the scientific community. We have explained this topic in the following link:

- Post #8, pag. 8. Detailed explanation in English of "how the Agnostic Method works":
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=180207#180207

- Instructions about the RTZ (Real Time Zone). An experienced projector whose nick is Gav has written a very good article about the RTZ (Real Time Zone) in which he gives hints, suggestions and advice about how to avoid the distortions that sometimes appear between the astral plane and the physical plane. This is the link:

- Gav's Word document about the RTZ. I really encourage you to take a look at it because it is a very good resume. Please, read Gav's copyright instructions at the end of his document.
http://www.future-horizons.co.uk/doc/A_Short_Discourse_On_OBE_Perception.doc

- Converstaion with Gav at lilacsky forum (you may have to register to see it).
Section: Research and Study's
Thread: Are Astral Travel and OBE real or imaginary experi
http://lilacsky.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=study&action=display&thread=1135185352

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THE THREE STEPS TO PERFORM THE EXPERIMENTS

In order to perform the experiments, our idea is to divide the experiment in three stages, which we call "Level 1 validation", "Level 2 validation" and "Level 3 validation".

Level 1 validation. Personal validation. This is a first stage which consists of informal tests to allow the projector to practice in a very comfortable and familiar environment to try to get some positive results. You may use the help of your own family members, or your friends, to practice reading the words correctly (or whatever, symbols, objects, etc.). You may practice as long as you want, there is not any time limit. All you would need to do is to inform us every once in a while of your progress or your difficulties to see if we can solve them. You may quit the experiment at any time you wish, no questions asked.

Level 2 validation. Small group of person's validation. If the previous stage works out ok, then we would set up a person of our trust to control the projector with further tests, but also in a relaxed and flexible manner. We call that person "the controller". We may choose a person who lives somewhat close to you, just in case you would like to meet that person, but that's up to you. If we obtain positive results with a particular controller, we might change the controller a couple of times to make sure everything works ok (Ex: no jokes, fraud, mistakes, etc.). We might use doctors or researches to control the projector during this stage. They will probably place the target either at their own homes, or at their offices (hospitals, universities, etc.).

Level 3 validation. Validation for human kind. If the previous stage works out ok, our final step is to perform more serious tests with the help of several serious researches we have already contacted, such as The Monroe Institute, Dr. Jeff Long (the founder of the www.nderf.org), Dr. Tart, etc. We call this last step "Level 3 validation".

Note: Level 3 validation does not necessarily require for the projector having to go to a lab to perform the experiment. The projector may stay at home, as usual, and have his/her APs at the time he/she is used to have them. But we would set up a proper room in our facilities, such as a hospital in which one of the researches work, or a private office, or a university (Ex: University of Virginia), etc. The projector may have to visit the physical place at least once (or as many times he/she wants) to become familiar with it and to be able to get there during his/her AP. In that room we would place the target (words, symbols, objects, computer screen, etc.). The room will be locked up and it will also be designed to comply with all the necessary security measures (Ex: a faraday cage to prevent external tampering with electromagnetic waves, a lawyer or a notary public will certify the quality of the installation, etc.). But we may talk about the details of this last stage later.

- Publishing the results in a prestigious scientific journal. If we obtain positive results in the final step (Level 3 validation), our intention is to try to publish the results in a prestigious scientific journal with the help of all the serious researches who participate in the experiment.

- The confidentiality of the projector is guaranteed. At all times during the three stages (Level 1, 2 and 3), the confidentiality of the projector is guaranteed if he/she wishes to remain anonymous. You may keep using your Internet nick name. We do not need to know your real name. If we reach Level 3 validation, we may have to meet you in person (later on, we will have to consider if this is necessary or not), but in case we do meet in person anytime along the way, we will sign a "Confidentiallity Agreement" to guarantee you remain anonymous.

- Adjusting the experiment to each particular projector. We insist, any projector may enter and leave the experiment at any time he/she so desires. There is not any obligation at all on your part. You may try as many times as you want and during as long as you want. There is not any type of schedule or time limit. We believe natural phenomenon does not need to adapt to Science, on the contrary, it is Science the one that should try to adapt to natural phenomenon.

If you happen to know any projector who would be willing to collaborate with us, we encourage you to let them know about this experiment. Thanks.

Good luck to you if you try doing the experiment, and thank you very much for taking the time to read this document.

Take care. qbeac.