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Has anyone here had a full blown OBE where they could actually observe something in the physical world they had not previously physically witnessed, or communicated with another living person, to be able to verify the experience later by confirming the physical reality observed or conversation with another person?
Or are all OBEs limited to individual experiences in "other planes", sensations and observations that are limited exclusively to a particular individual, and not shared, or are so vauge that they cannot be distinguished from the inner workings of the mind?
I would love to hear from or read about something more concrete than the murky shadowy glimpses and teasers so common in books and the internet.
feel free to email me directly daveunser@verizon.net
or call on me in the Astral, if that is possible.

What if this physical and spiritual universe, as vast and complex as it is, regardless of our discovery, revelation or experience is just one 'Tree" in a greater, infinite incomprehensible reality?

What if we are all, either by choice or by force, caught up in "THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL"?

Perhaps there are other "Trees" that operate entirely differently, or are completely unbound.

Genesis reveals one tree that is apparently both extremely guarded as well as desirable, called "THE TREE OF LIFE".

What if the "Way" out of this reality to taste the Tree of Life, is not by conforming to, understanding, or evolving within this reality, but rather by rejecting it altogether. There seems to be no disagreement that "Love" is the ultimate truth.
What if the real lesson in love is not stubborn self empowerment, but a willingness to yield.

Imagine a fallen soldier, a crippled or wounded person, or just an angry, defiant selfish individual struggling against the grain to get his way.

If a helping hand is offered to a sincerely grateful and accepting soul, He may take the hand to lift him out of hell.

An insincere, desperate and defiant soul makes no effort to accept the help, but in fact rejects it, dooming himself to his demise.

Truly, there is no denying that this physical universe is subject to death and entropy. Organisms expire, stars ehaust themselves, planets will die, all indications are that matter itself will eventually secumb to entropy, with no life sustaining vitality. Truly, however, the "first Cause" is extremely patient and generous in providing a vast universe with a life in the billions of years. We can watch the cycle of life and death, study the mechanics of the universe, wait for the inevitable death of our bodies, stars, galaxies and draw our own conclusions.

We can beleive that there is an endless opportunity for "soul growth" within the confines and laws of this universe, that perhaps through means of alternate dimensions, oscilating "big bangs" or some other theoretical construct of the mind that allows for perpetual existence within this framework. Or we can ponder the possibility that eventually, and although perhaps in the far distant future, this "Tree" will expire, and any soul left by choice or by force to exist within it will have no pretty planets, lifeforms, or even molecules to occupy and thrive within - nothing but darkness, silence and death.

I beleive there is a way out. It is Grace overriding Karma.
This enfuriates many because it rocks the foundation of this universe.
I beleive that this overriding law is absolute and genuine.
It is not something that is available to the insincere, defiant or desperate soul. It may be able to descern the condition of a soul and rescue it from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, but it may not necessarily remove the impression or self-imposed consequences of exposure to this reality and choices/actions made within it.
something to think about.

----- Original Message -----

Why don't you capitalize the word "Christian".
This is a subtle but obvious strike.
If indeed everything you say and write is true and you are motivated by
such truths, what place does a petty indignance have directed at a
religion, or a man, regardless of how misunderstood it may be?
I look forward to your reply.
peace
Dave Unser

----- Reply -----

Hello Dave,

Thank you for your message.

There is no deliberate intent to not capitalize "christian", but why
would I? I do capitalise all words related to God out of respect. The
word "christian" and "christianity imply a religion; which is not the
same as God, and I see no reason why they should be afforded the same
level of respect. Christianity is merely a description of a belief
system.

Best regards,

Adrian.

----- Reply -----

thanks for your response.
I can appreciate your reasoning, but to help me understand it, will you
answer a question?
Like all the laws governing the physical and spiritual universe, from
gravity to the "law of attraction", do you believe in a spiritual kharmic
law that can be overridden by a sincere acceptance of grace?

thank you,
Dave Unser

----- Reply -----

Hello Dave,

No Universal Law can be over-ridden at any level. It simply is not
possible. All Universal Laws operate with immutable precision and
perfection. There is no escaping cause and effect or any other Universal
Law. Every cause must have a corresponding effect; at the human level it
is often called "karma" as you have observed, which is in effect an
instrument of learning.

I know people believe then can escape the process by such acts as going to
"confession" or uttering some religious verses such "hail mary" or even a
"death bed confession"; but they have unfortunately been seriously misled
if they believe that.

Best regards,

Adrian.

----- Reply -----

If I am wrong about what I or anyone else chooses to believe, then it is
only my/our physical & spiritual well being that is at stake. The "First
Cause" / God that I believe in is not so feeble as to be bound by its own
creation, nor so impotent as to rely on the teachings of people to fully
reveal the extent of itself to its creation. It is the height of arrogance
to think we are authorized or even capable to define the infinite. The
"thought police" of science, religion, and philosophy, whether well
intentioned or selfishly motivated have and will forever strive to define
and program the minds of individuals with the particulars of reality. To
cite your own commentary in your recent newsletter, the power of thought
manifest as phenomenon such as telekinesis, in essence our "power" is only
limited by our thinking.
I have purchased your book, and read much of it. All things being equal I am
inclined to agree that all the aspects, details and mechanics of the reality
you describe are valid. Again, all thing being equal, we are all absolutely
bound and subject to the laws and mechanics you describe. And it is most
helpful and beneficial to be intimately familiar with this reality while
participating within it, especially if a being intends, or is otherwise
forced to exist within it.
But all things are not equal. That is the last laugh of the infinite eternal
unbound almighty First Cause.
If I, as an imperfect being, laden with kharmic debt, through an act of free
will and discretion am able to extend kindness and grace to anyone I choose,
It would seem natural that an unbound, fully developed being absolutely free
of kharmic debt would have the power to grant pardon of any kharmic debt to
anyone of choice and would be completely capable of discerning genuine
gratitude and sincereness of spirit from shallow regret and desperation. The
expected counter argument is that all actions are a result of kharma,
therefore explicitly ruling out genuine free will. The other expected
counter argument is that there is no such thing as a purely developed
kharmically immutable being. This premise acknowledges that the reality of
the universe is not and cannot be "perfect". Without "perfection" nothing is
absolute, no law is immutable. Herein lies the paradox. Ether both things
are true or are not. Genuine free will and a "perfect state" of being exist,
or they do not.
I am reminded of a scene in Star Trek "The Search for Spock" when Kirk is
fighting hand to hand with a Klingon who finds himself hanging from a cliff.
Kirk extends his hand and offers to pull him up to safety. Certainly
undeserved after the Klingon has killed Kirk's son, killed some of his crew
and caused the destruction of his ship. The Klingon instead tries to pull
Kirk down with him, and as a result, Kirk decides to kick him in the head
causing him to fall to his doom.

Your ultimate reality book, the Bible, The Koran, the Upanishads, dead sea
scrolls... all are wonderful resources and tools for navigating within this
reality. Surely, whether trapped by circumstance or by choice beings can
make use of these "truths" and employ the knowledge either for benevolent or
malicious means.
I do beleive there is a great deal of enlightenment and positive attributes
in your book, as well as the other sources available to people. My objection
is not to question these "truths", but rather the attitude we take toward
them. Regardless of how far reaching our discovery, understanding and
familiarity of perception of physical and spiritual truths, it would seem
that our attitude about these truths is key. Have we in fact defined God, or
simply glimpsed the scope of the playpen that has been created for us to
grow up in.

If my attitude and perception is utterly wrong, so be it, I will suffer the
consequences. If kharmic law is immutable, what purpose would the argument
of any philosopher, religious figure, social servant, etc. have to influence
my thinking if for no other reason than a reaction to being infuriated and
offended but still utterly ineffective.

I am open to, and enjoy discussion as well as debate.

Thank you for reciprocating the attention I have given your thoughts.

Dave Unser