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Alright, I don't know if this is very relevent to OBE but i seems that when i try to OBE, I get into a relaxed state but then ( seems kind of funny) I need to swallow my saliva. It seems like this distracts me or something, maybe I am not doing the techniques right to get my mind in peace and my body in rest.
Will

Today, I was reading all about astral and stuff and i decided I'll give it a go for a 2nd time. The first time i think i just lost my patience and decided to wake up and go do something else. Today, though, I really felt determined to have a OBE so I went upstairs in my room and got comfortable and set the mood. Then I started to rest and I really felt like my body was shutting down. What I did to know this is I put my hand on my other hand then after a while I couldn't feel that my hand was even touching it, is that when your body shuts down or falls asleep? Anyways what happened was that I pretty much just woke up, and I know nothing happened to me and I think I fell asleep. Also, when I woke up I felt very tired and sluggish, it felt a little weird because this usually doesn't happen to me. Is this a sort of sign that I was doing something right or wrong or maybe just me getting my hopes up too high?
Thanks in advance.
Will

Hi,
I just recently come across the subject of lucid dreaming and astral projection and got really interested. I got some books and I'm now reading them. I have a question that i didn't find on the site. 1. From what ive read on sites that say all the step by step for astral projection, it's pretty much all the same things, first you have to get really relaxed but the next step is the one that i don't really understand where you have to get into a stage called the Altered State of Consciousness or something like that. While i'm relaxing I don't know if i'm in that stage or not, so my question is, how do you reconize that your in this Altered State of Consciousness or if your not in this stage yet, how do you get there, if you'r not already there?


Thanks in advanced, I know this site gives great help and is very friendly

Will