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Throughout my life I have always believed in being rational and taking the position of "reality" until proven concerning this phenomenon. What I'm about to relate might sound strange but somehow I know anyone who looks can find the truth of it.

I can only say that my eyes have become opened and I realised that everything I knew as "reality" was more of a dream than the dream itself.
The Astral experience is not only real, but it is a critical part of our evolution and our connection to the better part of humanity.
Within our mind are two glands, the pituitary gland and the pineal gland. The pituitary gland connects body and mind and the pineal connects mind and spirit. What is spirit? Science might call it the Higgs Boson, Star Wars buffs might call it the Force, in reality it is the energy of creation.

We were not born to live in simple three dimensions and materialism. The Pineal Gland forms after 45 days in the human child and in children is a very large active gland. During adulthood the gland in modern humans shrinks until it becomes almost non functional.
This is why children have the capability to "hallucinate" and imagine things. In truth it is not the child who sees fantasy, it is the adult who places aside the connection to the other sides of life and hems into a false reality.

Darker still there is an agenda in this world which does not want you to see or to understand who you are. They want you to live in fear, to live in need, to live in the dark. So many of things we now feed to ourselves and our kids  act as a poison to the Pineal Gland, fluoride, artificial sweeteners, pop, and a thousand other things. This is why the Pineal shrinks so much during life because we neglect it and poison it. As it fade so does our understanding that we are not alone, we are connected to everything and everything is connected to us.
The Pineal Gland is known as the third eye because its formation has many cells which are similar to the human eye, and indeed the description is correct because that is the eye which allows us to see beyond the material world.

Dark minds set the agenda in this world and have done for hundreds if not thousands of years. All of the true reality which once rested with the ancient Sumerians has been stolen and hidden away and modern humans live in a world where reality is a fantasy and the fantasy is closer to reality.
For every person who has the will of goodness inside them is say this: clean your body, open your eye, and find what you have lost because only there can you find truth and touch the light.

The third eye is capable of producing melatonin which by nature fights cancer, HIV, heals damaged tissues and protects your physical body. This is why in modern times cancer and HIV have become prevalent.

The autistic child live in the opposing balance to us, they see mainly with the third eye and less with the two eyes in front, they live more in the other side of reality and cant connect regularly to our reality, we on the other hand live in this "reality" and can rarely connect with the other.

I suggest this, time is critical, there are dark times ahead and our only hope is that we as a species can find our connection to "god" again.
Everything we know about God, Allah, Jesus in the modern age is a fabrication, they were re written by dark people with dark intents. To divide us as a species, create war, fear and doubt among us so that the few could profit and rule.
The meaning of the word "god" isn't something you will find in a book, it's something you can find for yourself by opening your Pineal gland and seeing with the eye you never use.
For those who can already experience OOBE, you need to change your thinking and seek out your truth and place in this universe and once you know that, you can help other open their minds and see the light.

For those who cannot, you need to try recover the use of the single most important part of your body. The Pineal gland is the root of your soul, it's how you come in being in this world it's how the energies of your mind flowed into your body and gave you life, and it is your only point of contact between this world and the universe which gave birth to you.
Deja vu, intuition, gut feelings, instincts and dreams all come from the Pineal Gland, even though we have ignored it, it still speaks and gives us what guidance it can.

As I said, my truth isn't important, you can find your own truth.

For those who are already able to connect, look for the symbol of your birth.

When I was a very young child I had what I believed at the time to be a vivid hallucination. As I lay in my bed I saw a great Lion sitting on the floor of my room, and even though both my sister and my mother came to calm me, the image remained seated calmly on the floor of my bedroom. Only recently have I come to understand that I saw the Lion (Leo, Omega) for a reason. Now I have come to understand that the reason I saw this was to show me something.


Right now I am not certain if the symbol just happens to be my birth symbol or whether it is the Omega symbol which is important, but I know if you look, you will find your truth, more now than ever as the energies which fall on this world are stronger now than ever before in our lives.

Now this one was awesome!!

I watched the football this morning and then decided to go try an hour for OOBE. The results were bizarre!

I lay down in bed and used my usual technique, on my back letting my body go numb and trying to visualize myself out. In the end I failed although I did get disconnected I couldnt achieve the actual exit point.

Anyway, I decided to have a nap and see maybe if I could will myself to control the dream and how awesome the results were.

I lay on my side to sleep and I DID manage to take control of the first dream and turn it into OOBE. The only thing is I didnt realise it. I thought I had failed and decided to sleep again in a comfy poisition (actually I was in OOBE at this time).

So my OOBE self lay down on my wifes side of the bed to try sleep and take control of the dream. And guess what I succeeded!!!

From being in OOBE my OOB self went to sleep and the room started spinning ( I still didnt know I was OOBE at this point, I thought I was just starting) and I fell out again into an OOBE-Lucid Dream. I could tell this one was a dream because everything was kind of disordered, things were where they shouldnt be, the old dogs bed was still there. Anyway I used the details to gain control and I gained FULL 100% control of movement within the second level dream.


When I say full control I mean perfect, I could walk, turn, jump all perfectly as I wanted to. I believed at this point that I had just regained control of movment within a lucid dream and was well pleased. In fact I came back from OOBE six times during this and each time tried again and got the same results, I was able to control movement and shape the world around me at will. I was even able to interact with the physcial world.

Its gets better though. I woke from the in OOBE and I got up, and lay down afted verifying my facts and realised that many features of the OOBE I had been testing in my own home were wrong, the dogs bed ect. I lay down to check them again, and then I woke up.

This time I woke up normally on my ownside of the bed where I first lay down and realised that BOTH other levels (my awake state and the Lucid Dreams I was controlling) had actually been WITHIN an OOBE that I had without ever moving. The covers were still neatly folder across to my wifes side so I had never moved them or lain there.

Really awesome, have to say when I woke the left side of my forehead felt like it had a nail in it but it passed in a minute or two.

It seems I had full motor control and conscious control TWO LEVELS deep into an experience. Really cool stuff although from the way my head was when I gueninely woke up, im sure my brain was running at its very limits retaining both OOBE+dream states at the same time without me ever being aware of it.

Coolest and newest thing ive had for some time!!!

You cant imagine how much control I had. I mean I was waking up and retesting, I tested all motor function, ranges of movements, I could jump high, control all movements perfectly. In one of the sequences I even created myself a First Person Shooter type experience CONSCIOUSLY and was able to run, dodge and shoot the shotgun, couldnt actually see the shotgun in my hands though oddly enough but I created everything else perfectly AND had full control of movement.

I was so excited when I woke up one level at how much control I had gained. When I lay down and woke up again, then realising this had all be done two levels into an OOBE+Dream I was just seriously impressed.

Anyone ever had something like that?

Ive never had such control. Im serious, I was trying to test the limits of control each time I "woke" and went back in, thats why i created the FPS scenario just to see if I could and it worked perfectly. I was even telling myself it truly was like having a free presonal VR console.

Got to say this left me really excited about the possibilitites, this was altogether a whole new type of experience for me. It was a blended multi level Dream and OOBE something I never realised was possible before. To get that far into my own experience and still have full sentient and logical control and the reasoning to test the theories I first started with was really pretty amazing. To actually gain control two levels in was just mindblowing!!

I should add that the actual state where I could control everything was a high % of Lucid Dream, almost like a hybrid between OOBE and dreaming. It had many dream traits, spontaneous imagery, I visualised the scene but the content was unstable. I visualised a cityscape which I wanted to be old, mayan sort of imagery and there was mayan segments, but it was also tainted with other more modern images, council houses, skyscrapers, like a collage which suggests my mind was dreaming. Its a really strange and to be honest, very cool sort of hybrid though. Another more entertaining aspect of OOBE I hadnt considered, far more interactive.

For example because I was still testing OOBE and wasnt aware I had gone into a whole new kind of dream within it, I was testing interaction trying to move things ect in the house which worked, whats interesting is that the interaction between the second level and the first was correct. I removed a cup and placed it on the study floor and when I woke (not really but what seemed to be me waking) the cup was moved. So in a sense I created a fully interactive sort of inner reality. The more I think about it the more it fascinates me. OOBE into Lucid dream into Lucid OOBE Dream and the end result was a very potent hybrid. The headache I had on waking properly suggests my brain really worked ten to the dozen on the maintanence of this state. Have to say the mind is a truly fascinating thing and im really enjoying my experiments more than ever. I seem to have reached a whole new stage of experimenting with this and while genuine answers remain elusive, there a load of new concepts and questions I hadnt considered before.

Playing FPS is a curious thing to do but given the extreme level of lucid control i had, I really needed to test it beyond basic movement, and also to really test interaction and in the end the results were fun and worth every minute

Im not exactly certain on how I got into this kind of hybrid but its something im going to try to achieve again, whether or not I can im not sure, I hope so though. Also im hoping that what I learned about control and movement in this will apply also to normal OOBE experiences and give me a level of bodily control byond the rudimentary and clumsy form I had before.

Strange question but its about the only way of describing what I mean.

I had an experience recently and I can remeber it clearly enough but I cant actually describe it. Yes, I know thats really cryptic but I cant. Its like I have no point of reference for it.

It got me thinking about physics and the dimensions and limits I understand. Everything in our perceptions is based on what we know, we describe things through similies and metaphors. Its kind of like just not having any kind of similie or metaphor or way of describing it. Has anyone had this?

It was a place i experienced but for the life of me I cant actually find words, i mean not even loose general terms to say what it was like. Its not like I could even give a fuzzy description of it. Not sure what to make of it really, probably the strangest thing ive even experienced. I have it there and i want to explain it, describe it and tell you about it but when I try its blank.

Normally something would be hard to describe and you would say well it was kind like a 'blob' or a 'whatever' or some kind of fuzzy description but I cant even get that from it. Its like nothing, I just cant find a word to say except impossible.

I hope someone gets what I mean. Anyone had something similar?

Hi,

Im new here to the forum. I joined because once again I feel the sense of 'growing' in my energy. I dont really understand how to word that because I dont confirm to any rigid belie of what OOBEs actualyl are so i ahve no terminology to use.

Its like I feel that i have an energy inside thats increasing, pushing at me, drawing me back to looking for something more beyond the physcal world. It happens when I have some time just in normal life, forgetting about my OOBEs and just living. I get a sense or growing energy and I start searching for something.

Anyway, now I started searching Mayan calanders, Egyptian burials, old Celtic gods and ultimately landed here. Its not the first time its happened as I said, at some points in life I just feel a growing drive inside me and it sends me off on some hectic, search for god only knows what. What I search for doest seem to be related. The last time it happened, a few years ago now i was off searching Atlantis, Japanese mysticism and the like. I just sit at the computer, crank up google and it pops into my head to go searching for something.

Ok, well I say my last was a few years ago and thats true. This has been the longest period in my life without OOBEs and I guess its due to the last one I had which scared me badly.

Ive always had them, natural and easy, sometimes too easy to start and not possible to stop.

I went to me bed as normal, a little late after playing computer games as was common during my student days. I lay in bed and the slight tingling sensation in my body that always comes before the experience hit me immediately. When I say immediately I mean within 10 seconds of laying on bed to goto sleep.
Within 15 seconds I was out, or actually half out as I was so shocked at the speed and aggressiveness of the experience. My body was typically paralysed and my mind was reeling at the whole deal.

Anyway I used my 'trick' to come back. A little ditty I learned once when I was paralysed and my mouth was against the pillow (im a little claustrohphobic soemtimes), I twist my neck quickly snapping my chin round to the shoulder and bingo I break the paralysis.

So, I then sat up nervous and still a little stunned. Ive never had trouble getting out but laying down fully awake and being yanked into that state was a shock even for me. The worst was yet to come though. I breathed a little and lay down again, and there it was again the tingling just before I slip off. So I panicked and sat up again.

This sequence went on for around 25 minutes. In the end I got up and went for a cup of tea because I was so so shaken up. I literally couldnt lay down without immediately getting hauled into the OOBE state. To say I felt out of control is under statement, I honesly wanted to cry from it thats how shaken was. I started wondering if I was dying or something, I know that seems odd but youve no idea the thoughts that spiralled through my head while trying to make logical sense of this moment.

In the end I went back to bed after my cup of tea, I lay down, all was well for around 10 minutes and then I had the oddest and most unwelcome OOBE of my life.

I went into the state from being wide awake, not trying to sleep or project, as before it just grabbed me.

The experience was full out of body only this time I wasnt in control. I was floating over the 'floor' face down and moving forwards (head first) steadily. I couldnt move a muscle, couldnt talk, couldnt do anying but watch tiles slide by, changing in hue and tone as I seemed to pass various 'rooms' although my vision was always down at the floor.

After a few rooms I saw something sitting on the floor. Really I cant describe it without it sounding highly comical but I assure you in my experience it scared me. Ill describe it as a sort of purplish spider/octopus, meaning it had a round body above with a number of legs below (i wasnt counting you understand). I was floated over the thing and then suddenly I thrust downwards, my face to its face.......and that was all I could take.

I assume I used my neck trick while trying to wrench my face away from it, but anyway I was back sitting up in bed, panicked, sweating and scared in a very cold miserable way.

As I said, its the oddest and most frightening experience I have ever had. None of the other were even similar to this in any way shape or form, Ive had 'figures' with me on waking before but I had control and the figures behaved caringly to me.

For a long time I felt my experienced were sort of 'raped' by this one night. The idea of being torn helplessly into this state and forced to endure any manner of conjuring just mortified me and since then ive never projected.

I suppose im sharing this now because when i have this feeling I know at some point im probably coming towards a time when I will start having these experiences regularly again.

Im curious, has anyone ever had what seemed like a forced experience. Having even got up and had a cup of tea before going back to bed and yet still not being able to shake off the 'state', it just left me staggered and a little bewlidered by it.That night I thought maybe I was losing my mind or something and could no longer keep hold of reality.

What are peoples thoughts on this. Believe me i know how odd it sounds, but im curious to know if anyone has ever had anything similar (not the specifics of the experience) in terms of not being able to stop themseleves achieving OOBEs?

All comments welcome

Hi everyone,

Im new to the forum and have had many many 'experiences'. I always find it difficult to put a name to them as I believe there is more to be seen and understood before I know what exactly is occuring.

My earliest experiences were entirely natural and came around by themselves, many people envy me this, and it was only later down the line I looked for an active method to try increase my learning curve.

To be honest I have seen many and tried many and I find them all overly complex and requiring a lot of 'blind faith'. Many people who experience these occurence simply dont have the faith in 'chakras', 'doorways' 'portals' 'third eyes' or whatever else and this hinders the ability to effectively utilise any of the methods. The get frustrated easily and fail at the first hurdles.

My own method, one which has served me very well on many occasions is much simpler. It doesnt not require any acceptance of terminology or even a rigid belief of what you are trying to experience, believe what you will ultimately the answers are still there to be found.

The method is basic and designed only to help you achieve the 'OOBE' state, which for anyone who has never reached the point is fascinated and deeply spiritual even if you have no belief in anything paranormal or unusual. Its an experience that leaves you without a concrete logical explanation afterward and a very tangible inner feeling of, well of something I cant really define. Each of my experiences leave with with a sense of certainty and knowledge even though I have no idea what im sure or knowledgeable about...I just feel that way, connected I suppose the world in an oddly profound way.


Anyway back to the method.

I called it blackness because thats what it comprises. When you close your eyes to meditate or try achieve the 'astral state' its always hard to control your 'minds eye', thats the part of your mind that sees even when your eyes are closed. Wer all have it so we all know what im talking about, the part of the brain that makes little pictures in your head. Its a major distraction and can cripple your attempts to achieve what you seek.

I tired everything to focus and block it out but its a very powerful part of the mind and really theres no need to block it. Instead I use it to help me get where I want to be. Instead of trying to imagine nothing, or some inate object, just imagine blackness. A great blanket of black colour, let your minds eye create the image and just keep it there in the center or your mind. Focus everything on the concept of 'blackness'.

f you can achieve that for a period of time, you will eventually start to feel your physical senses slip away, possibly some arousal which is common also, and then you are almost there.

If you are a novice you will find thoughts and sounds always disrupt the focus, just accept the disruption and focus once again on blackness. Kepp doing that no matter how many things break yiour focus. Its like training a pup, you have to just keep guiding your mind back to the blackness and keeping it there no matter what momentary distractions enter.

One other note, I have found that for whatever reason between 2am and 4am is primitime for these experiences. Ive read many spiritual, creative and fascinating stories as to why, you can believe one, all or none, it doesnt really matter, but the facts are true. 2-4am theres a strong point for getting to the state you want to achieve.

Good luck and enjoy. If youve never had any kind of experience, it will be worth your wait, im a logical down to earth person myself, but these experiences touch me deeply and fascinate me in ways I cannot really put into words.

PS just to clarify, im not knocking anyones beliefs on projection or OOBEs. I personally have no belief, I experience and seek answers but I have no real truth regarding what is actually happening and I use terminaology and names very sparsley. Thats not to say I dont respect other beliefs or that i fell they are wrong. The reality is I dont KNOW, so anyone could be right or wrong about anything regarding this wonderful odd occurence.