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#1
Is there a difference between OBE and having a nightmare?

Whenever I get nightmares, I would see myself laying in bed.  I see my body and I noticed that I can't move.  My heart would start beating fast when that happens and I force myself to wake up by moving my toes first or relaxing my body by counting 1-2-3 then I would force myself to get up soon as I hit 3.  Now, I can reach this nightmare state or seeing myself state by eating McChicken. I have done this with lights off and lights on.  When I turn off the lights and try to have nightmares, I usually get scared because I feel like someone is watching me or trying to scare me.  One day, I turned on the lights and do the samething.  Next thing I know, I see myself or atleast my body.  I remember somebody posted before that he would think that he's a log and would spin out of his body.  Anyways, lights were on, I see my body and I couldn't move.  I thought to myself "ok, relax and don't get nervous.  I will count to 3 and when 3 hits, I would spin and when my front body hits the bed.  I would push myself up".  I did exactly what I told myself to do and next thing I know. I'm floating in my bedroom like a blimp.  I was not sure how to control myself so I let myself float.  This was happening for good 10-20 seconds and when I reached the corner of my bedroom.  I heard a voice on top of corner ceiling and it startled me.  I remember myself dropping slowly and I ran towards my body and dive right in my body.  Woke up right away and see my girl by my foot watching T.V.  I didn't see her when I was floating like a blimp or maybe imagining that I was floating around my room.

Now, i'm not an expert nor know anything about OBE but is it possible to go to this state by going through nightmares state and relaxing your body instead of getting scared?


I call it nightmare when I see my bedroom and see myself lying there and couldn't move anything except my toes.
#2
Hi All,
Funny thing happened to me couple or few weeks back.  I believe it was Feb 8, 2006 between the time of 2:45 a.m to 3:30 a.m.  I remember that I was so tired the night before because I didn't get enough sleep.  On feb 8, 2006, I must've slept before 2:00 a.m but it didn't feel like I fell asleep.  All I remember is waking up before or after 3:00 a.m.  I looked around the room and I am surprised that my eyesight is great.  I can spot and see anything in the room, I can see everything so clear eventhough the lights were off.  I was lying in bed with my head facing on the side. I turned my head facing the ceiling and to my suprised.  I saw an image of a lady.  Not just any lady but I seen my girl.  I knew it wasn't her but it looked like her.  She have the face of my girl but didn't have a skin.  She was like a cloud of smoke, kinda like clear/water color but have the shape of a woman, wearing clothes and I can see clearly that it was my girl.  My real girl was lying beside and I watched this cloud of smoke or whatever it is get up from where my girl was lying.  I watched her and see her get up.  I was looking at the ceiling and I see her on top of me getting up and before her foot hit the floor, she just disappeared.  She was there for good 5-7 seconds and I felt my heart beating really fast.  I was ready to panic before her foot hit the floor because I could not believe what I was seeing.  She must've seen me get startled because I was shocked and she looked at me before she disappear.  Soon as she disappear, I turned my head to the right and woke my girl up because I thought she was dead.  I thought it was her soul leaving her body that I seen.  I shook my girl asking if she's alive or ok and she answered me that everything is good.  I got up and move on the other side of the bed so I can see what's going on in the room.  I woke up in the morning and told my girl about it.  I don't know how to explain what I seen because most people said that I was dreaming.  How can you call it a dream if I was awake? Some says that it's a nightmare but I know it's not because I get nightmares all the time and whatever I seen or experienced is not a nightmare.  Anybody understand the way I described things?  I wonder what I seen and please don't tell me that I was dreaming because I was awake at that time.  Also, me and my girl would wake up around 3:00 a.m in the morning.  Sometimes we can't sleep and sometimes we can get back to sleep easy but we're always awake or would wake up around 3:00 a.m.