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Recently I heard the term in connection with Bruce Moen, who had an interview on the Art Bell show and who seems to have joined us here. Disk seems to be a synonym for higher self out of the body, but I could be wrong.

"Immediately I began to doze off again, but catching myself in the process I..."  I'm not well read on methods of OBE etc. but I'll give you my two pence.  This moment of catching yourself is extremely important i feel.  You can either get good at jumping on that moment or practising simulating that moment with various techniques - or both.  Other people on this forum will have more valid things to say about these 'techniques'.  But I think that nurturing either of these will eventually teach you to gain greater control.  Your 'clarity' demand is a great idea - i've never tried that and will next time i'm flying about out of control.

As for sticking your hand out to stop I would say just calmly will yourself to stop.  If you end up in that dark room again then great!  Explore it and become familiar with it.  You might find it's a place you can get to to jump out to other areas (not sure about that, but it sounds like a good idea to me:) You could also try calmly moving out of the room.

Hope this is of some help. help
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Hi Elastica,

I had a similar thing two days back.

here it is from another posting elsewhere:

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I  had a brief sort-of OBE this morning. One of the types that seems logical at the time and only later I realize things don't jive. it started with me separating my arms, feeling two sets of arms, feeling both sets as real as can be. Then I separated my legs from my legs, and they also felt real - both sets. I tried doing some funky bendy stuff with the astral legs, that was interesting, they bent however I tried to bend them.  I had the presence of mind to wake myself up a little more (get more into the C1 level of consciousness per Monroe) and saw that my physical body was still in the same position I had fallen asleep in.

Then I left the bedroom through a transom in the doorway (in the experience I thought "Oh yeah, there is a transom here" and upon awakening later I realized that there isn't) and went to the living room. I checked my clothing - long sleeved pink shirt  which I don't own - and upon awakening I realized that was wrong too as I was wearing only undies. Met my family of origin in the living room and had a giggle fit about how we were all there without our bodies - it seemed really funny at the time - and upon awakening realized that of course they aren't in the house with us. then went back and "re-entered" consciously and awoke.

AS always, it was most satisfying, to feel free for a little while and to feel the promise of another level of being. But also frustrating, as I have expressed repeatedly, at how I don't know what to make of it. Experientially it was great.

I wonder why, when I was so in need of these things in '97, why they were so much more concrete and intense and believable and now they feel more abstract or dreamlike. I also wonder why I seem to have these experiences only under certain circumstances - like when I am asleep but well rested.

It hasn't been five years for me, maybe a few months.  My visaion wasn't as clear as yours. But they were both morning experiences - and we both want more!

Later -

patty

Patty