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#1
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / DEMONS
November 28, 2009, 23:06:01
How do I kill them?????
#2
I've astral projected many many many times. More times then I can count. I pretty much 90% of the time have an astral projection if I am laying on my back and haven't eating anything. I've found it extremely hard to project while under the influence of alcohol. Anyways, I'd like to share my experiences because I have seen MANY SIMILIAR experiences to mine in various different forums and to be honest I need serious help. When I first started, I was not scared at all and would have fun flying around, exploring around my neighborhood or my house.

That all changed when I realised I wasn't alone. I learned inadverntly learned how to project when I was 17 years old. I was locked up for some stupid thing I did as a kid. This place was a juvenille boarding school type thing for troubled and disturbed kids. Anyway being in a room with two other people you didn't know, you always wanted to be the last one asleep. I didn't really figure out that I was projecting until I was about 18 or 19. I initially thought I had some kind of medical disorder and that I was dying in my sleep. Anyway this is going to be long so bare with me. I never had any religous beliefs, and I thought out of body experiences were a complete joke.

Boy was I wrong! I'm 24 now and I feel like an out of  body veteran. I realized there was "something" else out there slowly over time. At first, I chalked it up to my own imagination. I'd see people standing over my bed, or for lack of a better word horrible "monsters". This terrified me of projecting and many times I just wanted to go to sleep for normal. I became extremely annoyed that I couldn't sleep like I used to and wished I had never projected. Regardless of that, I believe that projecting is a wonderful thing and has made me a better and more wise person then I ever could be if I didn't project. I know for a 100% fact that there is life after death and that comforts me. What doesn't comfort me is where I might be going when I die.

Once two entities pulled me out of my body. I was horribly disfigured and in VERY intense pain, worse then anything I have ever felt in my life. These entities stood me up and had such horrible faces I could not bare to look at them. I did glance at both of them for a split second and I gathered that if I would have looked in their eyes for a second longer I would have woke up completely insane. It sounds crazy but here me out. When I looked in their eyes, I immediately could see there were actual "scenes" or "places" they could project on me. Like they could place me in an astral "cage" for lack of a better word with complete control of the scenery and images. I immediately tried to escape. I thought about going to another place in my town, and they started laughing INSANELY. I then felt something moving by my back. One of them allowed me to reach my right arm behind my back and I felt two stubs flapping where wings would have been. I then willed myself to wake up and immediately got a message that "my thoughts are my wings".

If that makes any sense. Anyway thats only the beginning, there were encounters before this, but nothing as vivid and horrible as this. I still believed that maybe I'm just imagining things and that demons or evil spirits weren't real. The frequency of the attacks increased. Before I would lay down to project or sleep, faces would appear right in my face, or just eyes. People or creatures would be standing right over my bed! One time I saw a set of blue glowing eyes right before I was about to project . I locked eyes with it in an attempt to confront it and immediately I was out of my body and the creature materialized right over me and started "pulling me" through my ceiling with it.It was all black with blue glowing eyes. Alarmed I immediately willed myself to wake up.

Another time I projected and I had entities that looked like they were half there and half not there running at me yelling "go back in your body" "your not allowed to do this". Other times I would be on a normal projection only to be paralyzed right wherever I was or thrown up against walls in my house. INTENSE PAIN worse then burning, feeling like I'm being eaten alive accompanyed a great deal of these projections. Not being able to move is another constant. Disturbed heart rhythms are frequent. A few projections I was literally stuck out of my body way longer then I wanted to be and thought I was dead and in hell. Attempts to run away, fly away and fight them are completely fruitless. The only thing that seems to work to some degree is yelling for god or jesus to help. That will usually wake me up if I can't get back.

Other times I see them I will yell at them to leave my house in jesus's name. Even more disturbing still is the apparent astral cage situation where the project scenes and images and places on to me. I was able to fight this off after not accepting it as real, only to be stuck in blackness and presented with another scene. These scenes would be of the worst kind. The worst monsters, homosexuality, rape, just the worst things imaginable. Things I would rather not get into. The process would repeat itself until I woke up and went back to sleep normally. Even more disturbing is when I get lucid in the middle of a dream. The "people" in my dreams will frequently tell me that this is not a dream and I am indeed awake. I literally have to argue with them that I am asleep and I know I am dreaming. They will go to any length to prove that I am awake including changing shapes into another person and changing the scene of the environment.

Many times I have thought I willed myself awake to get out of a bad situation only to realise I was dreaming moments after! This process has repeated itself as many as 20 times of a half hour before I finally woke up! While projecting I have encountered people from my real life and had to run away because I felt like I was losing conciousness and wouldn't be lucid anymore. I've had feelings of being eaten and have became lucid in the middle of this.The entities rarely talk to me and I get the feeling like they don't want me to know they even exist. When they do talk to me it is usually trying to convince me I am awake, or that I shouldn't be projecting. That they are going to harm me and my family, or they are going to make my life a living hell.

I never believed they were real. I challenged them to prove they were real which was extremely dumb of me. After I made the challenge I had dreams of minor future things happening that came true. Things that would never matter,except to show me they were real. They started speaking to me through my friends and people I know. Things in my house have been getting knocked over. I am a normal dude in my mid twenties and I have people over and we drink heavily on some occasions. One night I had placed a bunch of cans on the counter. Well the cans fell over and I thought nothing of it. Then some more cans fell over and I thought that it was a little weird. Well to make a long story short, all the cans and bottles ended up on the floor. All my friends were totally freaked out. My other friend claims to have seen a female entity in the house. I have seen a bunch of female entities in my dreams but they are mostly male. Mind you, I never told anybody about this for fear of my friends thinking I was insane.

 Anyway I had a girlfriend last year. On new years eve she got completely wasted, so I put her to bed. While when I put her to bed she started mumbling incoherently like most drunk people do. She stated there were 3 of us in the room. Alarmed and knowing my situation I said who is the third person and she mumbled a name but I could not make it out. She mumbled a bunch of other nonsense as well. I told her about it the next day and of course she had no recollection. I shrugged it off as drunkeness until some months later I was hanging out with my good friend. I never told him about this situation either. We drank a heavy amount, but I was clearly more sober then him and he could have swore there was three of us there. I assured him there was no third person, we had been hanging out quite some time. He repeatedly stated there was three of us there and that it was a female. Disturbed and thinking about my GF from a few month earlier and all that had been happening I was shaken.

I shrugged it off yet again until it happened again. Same friend, convinced a third person, female was there after drinking a heavy amount. Had no recollection either time. He did it one more time last week after drinking a heavy amount at my house. It should be noted the previous 2 times we were not at my house. And that in these situatons I had drank less then the people in question and had witnessed them drink themselves into oblivion. Thats not all, my dad seems to know something about all of this and has a bad drinking problem as well. Sometimes when I try to talk to him about my experiences he will totally claim that out of body experiences are all nonsense. Othertimes he will go on a kind of prophetic rambling about things that are going to happen and will just get weird and start talking about aliens, astral projection, demons and the devil. He makes little sense most of the time and almost seems like through his drunkeness he has become a puppet for a puppeteer. He seems like two different people and even his friends are noticing. Alcohol is obviously a player, but alcohol opens doors in itself...There has been so much more besides this, including the negative entities telling me to go places and witness specific small events. Like showing me a bear swimming across a river then a clock. Then I go outside and see the bear swimming across the river at the time specified. Stuff that would never benefit me in any way, except to prove their existance. Anyway this is turning into a book, and I seriously might write one.
#3
i got out of my body briefley twice this morning, on the first attempt i rolled on the floor and the projection just faded, the second time i rolled onto the floor and was able to stand up, i looked at my hands and my arms, to my astonishment, i saw some very strange markings carved out on the top of my right arm that seemed to be some language i did not recognize. they were rather large and stopped at my elbow, i proceeded to walk out the front door, when the projection once again faded. i have never heard or experienced anything like this. ideas people?
#4
ive been able to get out many times but only a few times for longer then 5 maybe 10 seconds...i'm able to walk out of my room then suddenly i black out and then im back in my body...any tips for staying out longer?
#5
I need serious help, and would appreciate any type of advice because this is really bothering me. Before I knew what projecting even was, I must have experienced it naturally over 200 or 300 times, at least the beginning phases of it. I would feel paralyzed, not know what the hell was going on and try my hardest to snap out of it and just go to sleep. But it would keep happening.Sometimes it would happen five times a night. It would cause me to lose sleep, I didn't want this to happen, it was extremely uncomfortable and just flat out weird. My heart would beat out of my chest and skip like crazy, Anyway I started having bad dreams, really bad dreams. The earliest one I can remember was I was really drunk, and I woke up in the paralyzed state and then "strange hands" with long claws actually ripped open my chest and sucked out my "energy" and the pain was so unbelievable and terrible I blacked out. It was a good ten seconds of this. Another time I could feel my body paralyzed on my bed, yet I was standing up in my room. A demonic voice was coming out of my speakers saying something in a language other then english, and it hurt my ears, I MEAN HURT MY EARS to the point where I thought my head was going to explode. So I quickly ran to them and threw and broke the speakers. I turned around to see a backpack on my chair that wasn't there orginally so I opened it. A small being in there grappled onto me proceeded to pull me into the backpack and stole a LARGE chunk of energy from me. At this point I woke up. But this is only the beginning, strange women started to come now, sometimes in forms of girls I knew, sometimes not. They would entice me into preforming sexual acts. AS SOON as I consented, I could not break free and I could feel a large chunk of energy being sucked from my body. I literally felt like my soul was dying and the life force was being completely sucked out of me to the point of near death. This is the thing that happened the most. Countless times that I could write a whole book about. However recently I have become wise to that so it hasn't happened for a little while. They seem to have many methods for stealing energy, however. Which also is a VERY long story. I still thought this was all just "bad dreams" until I finally figured out it was AP. So whenever this feeling would come across me I would try to get out of my body, I must say that the seperation part of it is really quite discomforting. How I finally figured it out was, I felt the feeling come across me so I rolled out of my bed. I then said to myself if I'm not on the floor this is some "messed up stuff" lol. Sure enough I was still on the bed. I also saw a weird blinking "orb" like thing that seemed to be confusing my "astral senses" . Anyway sence then I have been able to walk around my house but get pulled back to my body fairly quickly. Usually when I do this there are weird things like a black cloud, or one time I walked out of my room(I thought I was awake) with my blanket "stuck to me" My blanket then tackled me and started pulling me around but I kicked it off. Somehow I thought I was still awake and went back to my body. I have had 2 or 3 journeys into the higher astral realm via lucid dreaming. The most memorable time was when I realized I was dreaming by looking at my hands, a "negative being" that was in my dream tried to tell me "No you aren't" I said "Yes I am" and flew away. I had complete control over everything that happened. I flew over the houses in my town and saw other people dreaming and acting out there dream scenarios and dream lands in their houses and I saw the "layers of the astral realm". I also noticed the RTZ or whatever and realized that it would take an incredible amount of concentration to stay there. I found it hard to control because I seemed to be bouncing all over the universe, I would look at a star, think about being there I was there for a few seconds then I would follow this cord like thing back to earth. I'm sure I would get better with pratice and would like to visit that place again. I feel like these negative beings take advantage of the fact that I don't realize I am dreaming or in AP and use it to their advantage. When I try to AP directly from going to sleep, I manage to get out a lot but feel an intense pull back to my body or I black out. Also these negative beings take a lot of energy from me I mean A LOT. I feel very very tired all of the time since this started happening and not really all that sane anymore. Believe me I have the right mind set, that I'm not even going to see these things or they are nothing etc...but they seem to come anyway. Today another weird thing happened. I got out of my body walked across my living room, I FELT MY PHYSICAL BODY DYING but tried to keep going anyway and was instantly pulled back to my body. I need serious help with this stuff, because I seem to do it naturally and fairly easily but am still quite inexperienced and these "negative beings" are really screwing up my whole life by stealing my energy and I am so tired all of the time unless I stay up for 24 hours straight then I feel "normal" again  and I need to just get rid of them or kill them.