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With the holidays and all the stress associated with that time of year, I was not getting nearly enough sleep for a few weeks. My astral projection progress really slowed down at that time and I have to wonder if the amount of rest you have gotten lately affects your success in projecting. I had also been interrupting my sleep occasionally, making me even MORE tired and likely affecting my ability to stay awake while attempting.

What has your experience been with sleep and astral projection? Well rested = more success? I could see a case where maybe being extremely sleep deprived could lead to spontaneous OBE's, but mild sleep deprivation definitely did not work for me. 

This is probably my biggest obstacle to OBE/AP. Particularly when I attempt at night, when I start to feel exit or trance symptoms, by stomach gets that nervous/adrenaline feeling and I feel more tied into the physical shortly after. My heart rate goes up, etc. Has anyone discovered ways of overcoming this? In the Robert Bruce book that I own (M.A.P.), he just recommends willfully intending to be very calm and relaxed. While I think that is good advice, there has to be some other ways of overcoming this problem. I know that time and experience is essential, but it sure would be nice to find a shortcut to this issue. Thanks!

In the experiences I've had so far, I seem to have a tough time with physical movement in the OBE state. It's like I'm staggering or swimming through the air. Does this get better with time? Are there any tips for moving about in the OBE state?

I've read conflicting things on the importance of these vibrations. I've had one successful (but brief) OBE and a few lucid dreams in the last few months but have never really experienced the dramatic vibrations that I've seen described so often. I do get weird auditory hallucinations and sometimes strange physical sensations (like the bed being kicked or my arm jumping).

I have a theory as to why this is so for me. Most of my successful work has been after a night of sleep and I've hardly attempted in the evening hours. Perhaps I would feel the vibrations more if I attempted during the day or at night.

I'm not overly concerned about the vibes. More curious than anything else. Anyone else not usually experience vibes?

Hey everybody!

I'm going out of town tomorrow morning to Vegas where I will have much more free time than usual... assuming I don't get too carried away with all the gambling/partying there.  I figure that while I'm there I will work on my astral projection practice as much as time permits since I don't have to get up until 9am and get out of the conference I'm going to at 3pm. I'd like to try a couple of attempts per day. Possibly one in the afternoon and one during the early morning after 5-6 hours of sleep.

Anybody have suggestions? Is there a time I should try for in the afternoon if possible? Affirmations? What sorts of intentions should I set? Here's my thoughts: Go to bed at midnight and wake up at 5am, eat some food and read for about 45 minutes and then attempt. Then go do my thing during the day and try again during a mid-afternoon nap at 3:30 or so. Recommended reading? Is this post even worthwhile? Any random thoughts are welcome. Namaste.

Has anyone experienced the Monroe Institute's Gateway Series or their other hemi-sync products to compare to the Brainwave Generator that we're all so familiar with? I've had almost zero success with bwgen as far as I can tell. I'm using the one that came with Mastering Astral Projection and I'm only on week 5/6, but I haven't noticed anything outstanding with the bwgen.

Since I've begun attempting lucid dreams and astral projection I've noticed some energy movement that takes place when I'm in the sleep or trance state. There is an energy current that runs up and down my body at the rate of probably 1 seconds up the body and 1 second down. I've been able to actually control the intensity and the timing of this current. When it is at its strongest, I almost hear a click at the top of my head before it shifts back down the body. Has anyone else noticed this. Is there any sort of name for this phenomena? My guess is that this is the energy body rejuvenating the physical body overnight.

I'd like to look at some of Frank's posts here. What was his handle when he posted here?

Hey everybody - Just wanted to share a little success with the forums. I've been working on Energy Work and OBE stuff for about 2 months now and have had very little real success aside from a couple times when I had vibrations and some exit sensations. This morning (Sunday) I woke up at 6:30am and did some reading and hung out for around 40 minutes and then laid down in another room I have setup to try OBE work. I put on the BrainWave generator from Mastering Astral Projection (the trance induction track... week 5 I think) and laid there for a while. Well, 1.5 hours passed and I had only managed to go in and out of sleep once or twice, no trance or any sensations whatsoever. I decided to just get some sleep and went back to bed next to my wife.

Around this time, some of those pessimistic thoughts from the past crept in. Such as, "This crap just doesn't work" or "this just wasn't meant for me" and so on. I decided to go with my new philosophy in life which is that failure means you're at the threshold of success. That's just kind of the mentality I've tried to adopt lately. So I continued doing energy work and clearing my mind as I drifted off to sleep when I started really feeling those sensations. I guess like vibrations but really just the feeling of trance coming on. It sounded like my wife was speaking in jibberish next to me (which has screwed me up in the past) but I knew better that this was just a sign that I was getting closer. I just kept going with the feeling and next thing I remember I'm completely lucid in a dream.

I was on school bus with a bunch of kids I went to high school with. Realizing I was in a dream I was just messing with all of them when they would say something to me and just kind of having a good time. I watched the scenery go by out the window just enjoying the feelings and sensations of being lucid in a dream. I remember thinking to myself 'wow, I've been lucid for a while, this is great'. Sometime around then I decided I wanted to see more and so I thought to myself "UP" and lifted out the roof of the bus and started flying into the sky. The clouds looked kind of stormy so I changed them and made it nice and clear. I wanted to get more lucidity so I tried to open my eyes more for some reason and my physical eyes open and I could see the fan spinning in my room. Around this time I lost lucidity and drifted back into sleep.

However, I half-awoke in a trance state and had some really interesting sensations. A light wave of energy was slowly moving up and down my body. It had a light "orgasmic" feel to it and really felt similar to a low-voltage electric feeling. Very, very interesting. I've felt this before in small doses while drifting off but this was VERY distinct and I was lucid enough to observe the feeling this time. Anybody know more about this?

Anyhow, just wanted to share a little success with everyone. Good luck!

The first couple of times I worked on my base chakra I got pretty intense tingling feelings in my perineum and even down my legs a bit. The last couple times I've had a hard time getting anywhere near as much sensation. Comparatively, my naval chakra takes a lot of work to get any sort of sensations at all. What does this mean and how much time should I be spending on each chakra?

I'm sure there are a lot of 9-5 worker bees around here. I'm having trouble with practicing astral projection due to tiredness and a busy schedule. The main reason for this is that I see it so widely recommended to try AP in the morning when you are most relaxed and close to the edge of sleep. To do this, I have to wake up at 4am and then it takes a while to get relaxed and close to a trance state. This also requires I go to bed the night before very early, otherwise I'm dead tired that day.

How are the 9-5er's going about their practice? Do many of you rely on spontaneous projections? Or do many prefer to just try at night? Thanks in advance.

Something I feel that is hindering me is the level of grogginess (for lack of a better word  ) that I experience when I sleep. I've always been an extremely deep sleeper and rarely remembered any dreams. For this reason I'm considering attempting mainly at night because I am very much NOT a "morning person".

Since I started this a few weeks ago I've been remembering at least one dream a night so I think this is good progress. However the one semi-lucid dream I had recently was so "groggy" that it was like I could barely do anything. Can anybody relate to this?

Particularly to the successful "natural" projectors - do you tend to be light sleepers? What is it that differentiates you between the people who have trouble projecting and lucid dreaming?

I'm at a stage where I just want to be able to competently enter the trance stage, or the "mind awake, body asleep" phase. I know that the popular method is getting up early, such as in the wake back to bed method. Anybody think it would be beneficial to try at night as well? Has anybody had better results trying at night or other times during the day?

I have an issue with breathing when I start getting vibrations, that heavy feeling in my body, and rushing sounds when trying to OBE or get lucid. It's like I feel out of breath and I keep having to turn my attention back to my breathing, like I have to consciously breathe. When my attention focuses back on my breathing the feelings in my body subside a little bit and then the feelings go away for the most part. Anyone experience this?

I would like to further my spiritual evolution. I've started meditating again and have read or am reading spiritual books. Does anyone have advice for seeking a spiritual advisor/teacher/guide? How does one pay for something like this? How do you find a good one? Do you have to meet the person face to face or can it be remotely accomplished?