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#1
my first conscious projections were accidental at the age of 14.  after experiencing them, i later engaged in research how to willfully trigger them through cause and effect methods.

much focus should be placed upon simply becoming conscious of the astral projections which already occur.  we commonly forget our astral projections, much like we forget our dreams.  and there are still other times when we may fail to identify a projection which we had due to lack of familiarity.
#2
one entity looked like an angel without wings, a white male about seven feet tall with curly blond hair and extremely toned muscular condition with no body fat, wearing a white robe and exuding an aura of white light with a gentle and nonthreatening countenance.  no words interestingly enough.  more visual.  it was a higher frequency being.  i was about ready to attack him, but his nonthreatening appearance influenced me to stay any negative reaction.
#3
one entity was cloaked in a dark robe and hood, so as not to startle me with it's foreign appearance.  the dark-robed one projected an interesting dream image as he was sitting beside me.  i was in my physical body at the time, but still sensitive to astral entities in a context of clairvoyance/clairaudience (astral seeing/hearing).

i was laying on my frontroom couch and could see into my kitchen, via astral vision and hearing. the entity sitting next to me (clothed and hooded with a dark robe) projected the image of an additional door adjoined to the kitchen.  the door was locked, but it was locked open as opposed to closed.  a fierce wind was violently moving the door, attempting to slam the door shut, with the door loudly knocked about by the wind.  however, since the lock of the door was locked open (much like if you were to lock the padlock of your door while the door was still open as opposed to closed), the violent wind couldn't cause the door to close completely.  (sometimes, if we leave a window open and a door open at the same time, the wind will actually burst through the house and slam the door shut.  however, this astral door affixed to the kitchen wall couldn't be slammed shut, because it was locked open.)

anyway, with all of that said, the symbolism was that the portalway of my psyche to the astral realms is locked open and cannot be shut, in contrast to most people who may have astral experiences but later fall away from them.

technically, this dream hologram experience didn't impede my free will.  these weren't my dreams which were alterered or affected.  it was simply the entity's own dream projected onto the astral landscape.  i personally wasn't dreaming at the time.  it wasn't my dream, but the entity's instead.  i really didn't feel threatened to any great extent, or else i would have retaliated.  the entity was responsive to my request to veil itself if it wanted to communicate with me.

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i formerly responded to such entities with psychic shields (and occasionally still do).  when i would utter a curse upon them, their astral forms would degenerate before me.  or i would exteriorize energy from my arms, causing them to flail about as if on fire.

however, a friend of mine suggested to me that if i instead uttered a blessing to negative entities, many of them might become neutral (or non-aggressive) towards me.  i've found this to be the case.  i can now detect when they are fearful of me and when they are non-aggressive.  i've just found better options for dealing with them.

when we enter into conflict with negative entities, we are then headed on a path of becoming like them.  there is a saying that says: 'those who fight against monsters will become monsters'.

i've encountered my deceased mother a couple dozen times upon the astral planes.  she has sometimes had to veil her astral form from me, because i have a natural tendency to inadvertantly utter a curse towards astral entities, which thereby damages and degenerates their astral forms.

they veil themselves for a twofold purpose.  firstly, they are protecting themselves from my retaliation if i am startled by their appearance and subsequently utter a curse upon them which degenerates their astral forms. (i've sometimes injured astral entities accidentally.)  secondly, i've requested of them that they veil themselves if they wish to communicate with me, because i may become startled by them which may cause me also to wake up.

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much depends upon the dimensional frequency of projections.  as mortal human beings, most of us tend to cycle between higher and lower frequencies in a similar way that the seasons of the year go through their natural cycles.  we may wish to project when we're operating at higher frequencies, and refrain from projecting when we're operating at lower frequencies.  the frequencies which we operate at are also influenced by the people whom we associate with, coupled with meditative purification practices and patterned constructive and/or destructive behaviors.

it's generally not a good idea to attack entities anyway, except perhaps in self-defense.  for example, if you go swimming and see a great white shark in the water, it's probably not a good idea to aggressively attack it.  there may be superior methods to dealing with difficult situations.  a foreign entity may be trying to scare you, or it may simply be observing you if it's not taking an aggressive stance.  it's typically best to limit interaction with lower frequency entities to an absolute minimum.

there are a variety of entity types upon the astral planes.  astral entities are as diverse in form and nature as all of the different species of animals upon the earth.  some are dangerous and some are docile.  these entities may try to help you or harm you, or perhaps they need help themselves.  if your method works for you in a context of constructive progression, then you may wish to go with it.  whereas, if you hit a plateau, then you may wish to add additional methods to what has already worked for you in the past.  likewise, if your experiences are negative, then you may wish to modify them or put them on hold.
#4
i didn't see an option to review collected threads for thread-starters, so i'm posting some of my writings in this thread so that i can easily find and organize them later.  maybe i will organize them into a book if i get a lot of them.  this is almost like a blog.
#5
Have you ever had an astral experience like this?

http://userpages.burgoyne.com/bdespain/progress/progzeph.htm#Sg

Clement, Stromata 5.11.77

The scene in the fifth heaven.     A And a spirit took me and brought me up into the fifth heaven. And I saw angels who are called "lords." And the diadem was set upon them in the Holy Spirit, and the throne of each of them was sevenfold more (brilliant) than the light of the rising sun. (And they were dwelling in the temples of salvation and singing hymns to the ineffable God.)

Sahidic fragment

The seer's vision of a soul in torment.     B1I saw a soul which five thousand angels punished and guarded. 2They took it to the East and they brought it to the West. They beat its ... they gave it a hundred ... lashes for each one daily. 3I was afraid and I cast myself upon my face so that my joints dissolved. 4The angel helped me. He said unto me, "Be strong, O one who will triumph, and prevail so that thou wilt triumph over the accuser and thou wilt come up from Hades." 5And after I arose I said, "Who is this whom they are punishing?" 6He said unto me, "This is a soul which was found in its lawlessness." And before it attained to repenting it was visited, and taken out of its body. 7Truly, I, Zephaniah, saw these things in my vision.


The scene in a broad place.     8And the angel of the Lord went with me. I saw a great broad place, thousands of thousands surrounded it on its left side and myriads of myriads on its right side. The form of each one was different. 9Their hair was loose like that belonging to women. Their teeth were like the teeth of ...

Akhmimic Text

Fragment dealing with burial.     11 ... dead. We will bury him like any man. 2Whenever he dies, we will carry him out playing the cithera before him and chanting psalms and odes over his body.


Scenes from above the seer's city.     21Now I went with the angel of the Lord, and he took me up (over) all my city. There was nothing before my eyes. 2Then I saw two men walking together on one road. I watched them as they talked. 3And, moreover, I also saw two women grinding together at a mill. And I watched them as they talked. 4And I also saw two upon a bed, each one of them acting for their (mutual) ... upon a bed. 5And I saw the whole inhabited world hanging like a drop of water which is suspended from a bucket when it comes up from a well. 6I said unto the angel of the Lord. "Then does not darkness or night exist in this place?" 7He said unto me, "No, because darkness existeth not in that place where the righteous and the saints are, but rather they always exist in the light."

8And I saw all the souls of men as they existed in punishment. 9And I cried out to the Lord Almighty, "O God, if Thou remainest with the saints, Thou (certainly) hast compassion on behalf of the world and the souls which are in this punishment."


Recording angels from Mount Seir.     3 1The angel of the Lord said unto me, "Come, let me show thee the place of righteousness." 2And he took me up upon Mount Seir and he showed me three men, as two angels walked with them rejoicing and exulting over them. 3I said to the angel, "Of what sort are these?" 4He said to me, "These are the three sons of Joatham, the priest, who neither kept the commandment of their father nor observed the ordinances of the Lord."

5Then I saw two other angels weeping over the three sons of Joatham, the priest. 6I said, "O angel, who are these?" He said, "These are the angels of the Lord Almighty. They write down all the good deeds of the righteous upon their scrolls as they watch at the gate of heaven." 7And I take them from their hands and bring them up before the Lord Almighty; He writeth their name in the Book of the Living. 8Also the angels of the accuser who is upon the earth, they also write down all the sins of men upon their scrolls. 9They also sit at the gate of heaven. They tell the accuser and he writeth them upon his scroll so that he might accuse them when they come out of the world (and go) down there."


Ugly angels carry off the souls of ungodly men.     4 1Then I walked with the angel of the Lord. I looked before me and I saw a place there. 2Thousands of thousands and myriads of myriads of angels entered through it. 3Their faces were like a leopard, their tusks being outside their mouth like wild boars. 4Their eyes were mixed with blood. Their hair was loose like the hair of women, and fiery scourges were in their hands. 5When I saw them, I was afraid. I said unto that angel who walked with me, "Of what sort are these?" 6He said unto me, "These are the servants of all creation who come to the souls of ungodly men and bring them and leave them in this place. 7They spend three days going around with them in the air before they bring them and cast them into their eternal punishment."

8I said, "I beseech thee, O Lord, give them not authority to come to me." 9The angel said, "Fear not. I will not permit them to come to thee because thou art pure before the Lord. I will not permit them to come to thee because the Lord Almighty sent me unto thee because <thou> are pure before him." 10Then he beckoned to them, and they withdrew themselves and they ran from me.


The heavenly city.     5 1But I went with the angel of the Lord, and I looked in front of me and I saw gates. 2Then when I approached them I discovered that they were bronze gates. 3The angel touched them and they opened before him. I entered with him and found its whole square like a beautiful city, and I walked in its midst. 4Then the angel of the Lord transformed himself beside me in that place.

5Now I looked at them, and I discovered that they were bronze gates and bronze bolts and iron bars. 6Now my mouth was shut therein. I beheld the bronze gates in front of me as fire was being cast forth for about fifty stadia.


The accuser and the angel Eremiel in Hades.     61Again I turned back and walked, and I saw a great sea. 2But I thought that it was a sea of water. I discovered that it was entirely a sea of flame like a slime which casteth forth much flame and whose waves burn sulfur and bitumen. 3They began to approach me.

4Then I thought that the Lord Almighty had come to visit me. 5Then when I saw, I fell upon my face before him in order that I might worship him. 6I was very much afraid, and I entreated him that he might save me from this distress. 7I cried out, saying, "Eloe, Lord, Adonai, Sabaoth. I beseech Thee to save me from this distress because it hath befallen me."

8In that same instant I stood up, and I saw a great angel before me. His hair was spread out like that of lionesses'. His teeth were outside his mouth like a bear. His hair was spread out like women's. His body was like the serpent's when he wished to swallow me. 9And when I saw him, I was afraid of him so that all the parts of my body were loosened and I fell upon my face. 10I was unable to stand, and I prayed before the Lord Almighty, "Thou wilt save me from this distress. Thou art the one who saved Israel from the hand of Pharaoh, the king of Egypt. Thou saved Susanna from the hand of the elders of injustice. Thou saved the three holy men, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, from the furnace of burning fire. I beg you to save me from this distress."

11Then I arose and stood, and I saw a great angel standing before me with his face shining like the rays of the sun in its glory since his face is like that which is perfected in its glory. 12And he was girded as if a golden girdle were upon his breast. His feet were like bronze which is melted in a fire. 13And when I saw him, I rejoiced, for I thought that the Lord Almighty had come to visit me. 14I fell upon my face, and I worshiped him. 15He said to me, "Take heed. Worship me not. I am not the Lord Almighty, but am the great angel, Eremiel, who is over the abyss and Hades, the one in which all of the souls are imprisoned from the end of the Flood, which came upon the earth, until this day."

16Then I inquired of the angel, "What is the place to which I have come?" He said to me, "It is Hades." 17Then I asked him, "Who is the great angel who stands thus, whom I saw?" He said, "This is the one who accuses men in the presence of the Lord."


The two scrolls.     71Then I looked, and I saw him with a scroll in his hand. He began to unroll it. 2Now after he had spread it out, I read it in my (own) language. I found that all my sins which I had done were written in it, those which I had done from my youth until this day. 3They were all written upon that scroll of mine without there being a false word in them. 4If I did not go to visit a sick man or a widow, I found it written down as a shortcoming upon my manuscript. 5If I did not visit an orphan, it was found written down as a shortcoming on my scroll. 6A day on which I did not fast (or) pray in the time of prayer I found written down as a failing upon my scroll. 7And a day when I did not turn to the sons of Israel — since it is a shortcoming — I found written down upon my scroll 8so that I threw myself upon my face and prayed before the Lord Almighty, "May thy mercy reach me and may thou wipe out my scroll because Thy mercy hath come to be in every place and hath filled every place."

9Then I arose and stood, and I saw a great angel before me saying to me, "Triumph, prevail because thou hast prevailed and hast triumphed over the accuser, and thou hast come up from Hades and the abyss. Thou wilt now cross over the crossing place."

10Again he brought another scroll which was written by hand. 11He began to unroll it, and I read it, and found it written in my (own) language ...


Leaving Hades.     two pages missing (In the missing pages the author probably discussed the content of the second scroll, which should have recorded the good deeds of the seer. If the missing material is parallel to the preceding section, the reading of the scroll would be followed by a prayer — possibly a prayer of thanksgiving — and a pronouncement of triumph by a great angel. That would be followed by preparations for crossing over the river in a journey out of Hades. The section that follows begins after the arrival of a boat.)

8 ... 1They helped me and set me on that boat. 2Thousands of thousands and myriads of myriads of angels gave praise before me. 3I, myself, put on an angelic garment. I saw all of those angels praying. 4I, myself, prayed together with them. 5I knew their language, which they spoke with me. 6Now, moreover, my sons, this is the trial because it is necessary that the good and the evil be weighed in a balance.


The 1st trumpet: triumph & visitation of the righteous.     91Then a great angel came forth having a golden trumpet in his hand, and he blew it three times over my head, saying, "Be courageous! O one who hath triumphed. Prevail! O one who hath prevailed. For thou hast triumphed over the accuser, and thou hast escaped from the abyss and Hades. 2Thou wilt now cross over the crossing place. For thy name is written in the Book of the Living." 3I wanted to embrace him, (but) I was unable to embrace the great angel because his glory is great.

4Then he ran to all the righteous ones, namely, Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and Enoch and Elijah and David. 5He spoke with them as friend to friend speaking one with another.


A 2nd trumpet: opening of heaven & souls in torment.     101Then the great angel came to me with the golden trumpet in his hand, and he blew it up unto heaven. 2Heaven opened from the place where the sun rises to where it sets, from the north to the south. 3I saw the sea which I had seen at the bottom of Hades. Its waves came up to the clouds. 4I saw all the souls sinking in it. I saw some whose hands were bound to their neck, with their hands and feet being fettered. 5I said, "Who are these?" He said unto me, "These are the ones who were bribed and they were given gold and silver until the souls of men were led astray." 6And I saw others covered with mats of fire. 7I said, "Who are these?" He said unto me, "These are the ones who give money at interest, and they receive interest for interest." 8And I also saw some blind ones crying out. And I was amazed when I saw all these works of God. 9I said, "Who are these?" He said unto me, "These are catechumens who heard the word of God, but they were not perfected in the work which they heard." 10And I said unto him, "Then have they not repentance here?" He said, "Yes," 11I said, "How long?" He said unto me, "Until the day when the Lord will judge." 12And I saw others with their hair on them. 13I said, "Then there is hair and body in this place?" 14He said, "Yes, the Lord gives body and hair to them as he desires."


The intercession of the saints for those in torment.     111And I also saw multitudes. He brought them forth. 2As they looked at all of the torments they called out, praying before the Lord Almighty, saying, "We pray unto Thee on account of those who are in all these torments so that Thou might have mercy on all of them." 3And when I saw them, I said to the angel who spoke with me, "<Who are these?>" 4He said, "These who beseech the Lord are Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. 5Then at a certain hour daily they come forth with the great angel. He soundeth a trumpet up unto heaven and another soundeth upon the earth. 6All the righteous hear the sound. They come running, praying to the Lord Almighty daily on behalf of these who are in all these torments."


Another trumpet: the coming wrath of God.     121And again the great angel cometh forth with the golden trumpet in his hand blowing over the earth. 2They hear (it) from the place of the sunrise to the place of the sunset and from the southern regions to the northern regions. 3And again he blows (it) up unto heaven and its sound is heard. 4I said, "O Lord, why left thou me not until I saw them all?" 5He said unto me, "I have not authority to show them unto thee until the Lord Almighty riseth up in his wrath to destroy the earth and the heavens. 6They will see and be disturbed, and they will all cry out, saying, 'All flesh which is ascribed to Thee we will give unto Thee on the day of the Lord.' 7Who will stand in His presence when He riseth in His wrath <to destroy> the earth <and the heavens?> 8Every tree which groweth upon the earth will be plucked up with its roots and fall down. And every high tower and the birds which fly will fall ... "

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#6
sleep deprivation coupled with sensory deprivation (of sight and sound) will help your mind get into a state of 'wake-dreaming'.  if you can induce the 'wake-dreaming' state while awake, you will likely consciously retain it for a short while after falling asleep.  then you will have opportunity to project.

food and/or sleep deprivation (namely fasting from food and/or sleep) will pre-dispose you to 'spontaneous' projections, wherein you project without even trying.  if you gradually train yourself over several months to cut your meals down to 1/2 or 1/4 for three to four days per training session and/or train yourself to cut your sleep hours down to 1/2 or 1/4 four three to four days per training session, you'll be more pre-disposed to 'spontaneous' projection.

of course, common sense must be used, and you should cease the food/sleep deprivation if it makes you feel ill, because your body may not yet be used to it.  then cease from the training for about a week, so that your body can regenerate, and try it again, allowing close to a week inbetween training sessions.  don't start the training if you are already ill, and cease the training if you start feeling ill.

it's much like beginning a new gym routine.  these training sessions are the only true 'secret' to conscious astral projection.

that's pretty much what it takes, although one can start out less intensely with just a fraction of the routine.  i don't mean to disappoint, but it's not easy to astral project.  it's about as difficult as starting a new exercise routine, and that's assuming a person knows what they're doing if they want results.  maybe just cut food and/or sleep in half for a day or two instead, and repeat that once a week.  otherwise, you may not get very profound results.  this is also assuming that your health is reasonably good in the first place.  if the routine is ever too difficult, just cut the intensity in half each time, until it becomes more manageable.  it gets easier with frequent practice.

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i believe that most experienced projectors have fervently fasted (either from food or from sleep) at some time during their lives, unless their capacities were otherwise triggered by bodily trauma or drug usage.  sadly, the latter two catalysts may be an all too common factor in many modern countries.  i'm probably going back to more ancient roots in my references.  those who have formerly fasted and thereafter ceased still commonly retain physiological brain enhancements which pre-dispose them to astral projections.

there are exceptions to the rule in the absence of bodily trauma and/or drug usage, but i suggest that such is extremely rare.  if you've found other effective methods that work for you, please, by all means use them.  i might suggest that proficiency for most with astral projection is only acheived when one approaches it with the tenacity of an athlete.

the fasting gets much easier just like regular exercise or meditation, but is difficult in the beginning.  it's really not quite as difficult if it's approached gradually and correctly.  once the brain has experienced the physiological enhancements, the fasting (from food and/or sleep) needs only to be moderately practiced to retain the capacity to project.  much like muscle memory within an athlete who moderates training after a while.  the goal is to physiologically enhance the brain efficiency in re-conteuring the neural network.

by all means, use whatever works best for you.  but if you run into obstacles, it's best not to limit your options prematurely.  i've experienced about 2000 projections in the last 25 years, with projections now twice weekly.  i've likely tried both your methods and mine.  an understanding of human physiology is supremely beneficial in this context.

no one is forced by any means.  we each have to do what's right for us individually, and travel forward at our own pace with what works best for us.  it's just good to have some additional information available sometimes to figure out what options are available to us, and to also realize that pursuing astral projection is a very concentrated effort.  it's a rather hard endeavor, similar to a person training as an athlete.  it takes knowledge and discipline, and is not something which is acheived lightly.

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it might ultimately be more accurate for us to suggest that all people astral project, but simply aren't conscious of it.  even the people who claim that they don't astral project actually do it quite regularly (similar to dreaming at night), but aren't astrally sensitive enough to realize that it's happening.  either they forget their astral projections (like forgetting dreams at night) and/or they fail to recognize that they astral projected in the first place (as with many floating/flying dreams).

the deprivation methods (such as food, sleep, sight and sound deprivation) are merely tools to realign the neural network of the brain to become more consciously sensitive to finer frequency dimensions.  the deprivation methods are geared towards physically altering brain structure and efficiency in much the same way that bodily muscles can become physically more developed.  these methods exercise the brain in much the same way that a muscle can be exercised in the gym, and therefore these methods are practical for everyone in this context, although strategic knowledge is mandatory to make these methods be effective.

the deprivation methods which i espouse are not merely personal creations of mine which only work for me, but they are ancient eastern disciplines that were practiced by ancient eastern mystics in the context of supernatural manifestation and experience.  modern westerners have simply become blinded to the practice of these methods due to the modern western societal veil placed upon people's senses.
#7
one time when i was laying in bed, it felt as if i was waking up.  i turned my head, but i was actually only turning my astral head, while my physical head remained motionless.  i sensed a type of dual consciousness, both astral and physical, simultaneously.

then something strange happened.  a spirit entity took hold of my astral shoulder as if trying to astrally rouse me from sleep.  the being literally turned my astral body on it's side, and i was still sensing two bodies (my astral and my physical) simultaneously.

in a context of eventually learning to perform conscious astral projections willfully, our physiology must be allowed to gradually adapt over many training sessions.  the physical body should only be pushed gradually, and not all at once.  it's very similar to a marathoner who starts running short distances before long distances can gradually be covered.  or a bodybuilder who lifts light weights before gradually progressing to heavier weights.  again, the body should not be pushed to the point of illness with the various methods which we may choose to practice, as may otherwise be exhibited by severe hallucinations, headaches, dizziness, stomach aches, sore throat, ear aches, etc.
#8
i believe that the metaverse is infinitely eternal and etenally infinite.

1. infinite macroverse: the idea that the macroverse is infinitely large, extending forever and ever, without beginning or end points.  there are no outer walls of the metaverse (although the metaverse is composed of an infinite number of universes).  the metaverse has no beginning or ending.

2. infinite microverse: the idea that a microverse is infinitely small, extending forever and ever.  in other words, the smallest molecules are composed of infinitely smaller particles that go on forever and ever.  there is no smallest particle that isn't composed of even smaller particles.
#9
most of my astral projections occur right before i wake up versus right after falling asleep.

we have at least two chances to consciously astral project when we sleep:

1. right when we go to sleep

2. right when we wake up

again, most of my experiences occur when i'm waking up as opposed to when i'm falling asleep.

there are even times when i gain consciousness right in the middle of a sleep period, only to find myself already out-of-body.  this may occur in several waves during a sleep period.
#10
to consciously astral project, you have to cause your psyche to be awake while your body is fully asleep.  the body (as opposed to the psyche) must fall right below the sleep threshold versus remaining right above the sleep threshold.  it's essentially the opposite of meditation where a person tries to stay physically awake while relaxing the psyche.

sleep deprivation and/or fasting may be the most effective method to get your psyche into a wake-dreaming state (ideally coupled with sensory deprivation for amplification purposes), afterwhich the body will eventually fall into a very deep sleep.  it's okay to physically fall asleep if your psyche remains very active.  you want your psyche as active as possible with your body as passive as possible.  again, it's the exact opposite of meditation where people try to relax the psyche but stay physically awake.
#11
1. sleep paralysis is a natural part of astral projection.  the only way to avoid it would be to avoid astral projection also, if that's what makes you feel the most comfortable.  however, if you prefer to pursue astral projection, you will then have to combat the fear involved with sleep paralysis instead of sleep paralysis itself.  this is entirely up to you, and it's not my place to persuade or dissuade you.

i still experience sleep paralysis from time to time during my astral projections, but it's not something that i really fear anymore.  think of it this way.  the physical body has to go into a state of sleep paralysis before we can astral project.  we can't very well be out-of-body and moving around in-the-body at the same time, although we may still experience dual sensation at times if the energy body is still half-way in the physical body.  it sounds to me like you will have to combat your fear of sleep paralysis as opposed to the sleep paralysis itself, if you still wish to astral project.

2. unwelcome entities can be avoided by staying away from mystical experience altogether, or if one wishes to pursue mystical experience, purification of the psyche is then necessary to attain higher dimensional frequencies, wherein one will not be subject to nightmare-type mystical experiences or exposure to invasive lower entities.  this involves cleansing of the psyche in the sub-realms of thought, emotion and conscience.

#12
i offer these items from personal experience, but they're not meant to be taken as infallible doctrine by any means:

whatever temperature is the most pleasurable will relax your body the most, whether hot or cold.  during a hot summer, an air conditioner might be preferred if it makes you feel the most pleasurable.  during a cold winter, a heater and/or blanket may be more suitable, if indeed it makes you more pleasurable and therefore more relaxed.

one helpful method that i've used is heating the lower half of my body with an electric blanket, while simultaneously cooling the upper half of my body with an air conditioner.  it seems to do something with the blood flow, generating a lot of inner physical activity during the sleep state.  thus the body becomes rather alert, even though it's asleep.

in the end, do whatever makes you feel the most pleasurable in regards to temperature, insofar as this will relax your heart rate more optimally, so as to induce the deepest possible sleep state.

with all of this said, this still may only be effective after some degree of sleep deprivation and/or fasting.  it's a bit of a trick to get oneself into a lucid trance state, and may take years of regular training to induce anything beyond a projection which lasts only a few seconds.

sensory deprivation (of sight and sound) will put you into a potentially deeper state of trance and/or sleep.  environmental sights and sounds may merely wake you up unless you've been rather sleep-deprived.

ultimately, these suggestions will only apply 90% of the time, and reverse conditions may actually apply in rarer circumstances.  there are multiple complex factors to consider.  the trick is to become mentally alert while physically asleep.

thoughts?  feelings?
#13
one entity looked like an angel without wings, a white male about seven feet tall with curly blond hair and extremely toned muscular condition with no body fat, wearing a white robe and exuding an aura of white light with a gentle and nonthreatening countenance.

another entity was cloaked in a dark robe and hood, so as not to startle me with it's foreign appearance.

and another entity seemed half-human and half-lion.
#14
about a month after her physical death, my deceased mother told me that she was being indwelt with lower frequency entities.  i explained to her that she should take my hand and i would direct my life-force energies into her astral form.  i explained to her that the energy would feel hot like fire but not as severe as fire, and that the lower frequency entities that were indwelling her would be more sensitive to the pain of the fire than she was herself, and would thereby drop off.  as i released the energy into her that she perceived as fiery, she asked how long that she should hold on to my hand, because it was burning her.  i told her to simply hold on until it would reach the limits of her toleration levels.  the invading entities which were indwelling her eventually dropped away from her, and she was able to ascend to a higher frequency in a context of purification which i had newly sensed in her.
#15
Levitational Guidance of my Energy Body from Astral Entities:

One time at the age of 15 (roughly in the year of 1983), when my energy body was already spontaneously separated from my physical body, I astrally awakened to find myself levitating above my bed, aimlessly out of control, much like an astronaut floating around in space or in a simulated NASA weightlessness environment might feel.  The astral planes seem to have different gravity environments as otherwise compared to our material plane in this context.

Suddenly, a series of gentle hands from perhaps a half dozen invisible entities steadied my torso and limbs.  They were guiding me how to levitationally balance with purposeful direction, instead of simply allowing me to float wildly out of control.  I didn't feel threatened by this outside intervention, but instead felt like I literally had guiding hands made available to me.  I reasoned that if outside entities were willing to lend assistance in my astral endeavors, then the experiences must have some inherent value that I was not fully aware of.  I became pleasantly excited that my pursuit of astral consciousness was progressing in a greater universal context.
#16
Welcome to Members Introductions! / hello, i'm new
November 16, 2008, 22:39:07
hello, i'm new.

i've been engaging in astral projection for about 25 years now, with maybe 2000 out-of-body experiences, from age 15 to 40.

i originally learned about astral projection through Sylvan Muldoon's book: The Projection of the Astral Body.

thanks for having me.