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We are told constantly that god and the devil are external force (outside of us) and the battle between good and evil is constantly perpetuated in society, the media and etc.
If God is everywhere and in everything then so is Satan. Essentially we are both internalized. Acceptance of your internal god and internal devil. Learn to have them coexist within you instead of battling all the time and learn to balance.
This gives a clear and more refined view of the saying "We are our own worst enemy." That which torments us is usually in our mind. Rage, fear, etc the negative states being that of devil & love, acceptance, etc being that of god.

There has been a number of studies done showing that scientifically negative emotions and thoughts or positive have an impact on physical matter. Now as for which one is or becomes dominant in your life...
"Which wolf will win?"
"The one you feed."

When people pray to god they are praying to their soul / energy body / astral body / spirit self / the unconscious self which is comprised of more godly essence than the physical body... and mentally knows your truest and deepest intentions.
I know this through research, practice and studies particularly out of body experience. Mentality when you are in your astral body is not that of your waking mind consciousness but your deeper self.... the unconscious, subconscious and maybe a small touch of the conscious mind.

Lets say before having an OBE i place intent on being in a game or something. When you actually do get out of body your intent changes though it is still you. It is your deeper intentions and wishes. For example perhaps when you are out you want to visit with a deceased loved one. The street fighter idea is scrapped and you go about doing that.

As for religions i believe everybody would be worshiping the same god if there was any truth. But instead when people of 1 culture discovered another they worshiped separate gods.
Sail across the seas...
Yup! More inconsistencies.
More exploring...
Everyone is blasphemous!

No matter... I believe now there is only 1 god and that the characters portrayed across religion are the interpretation of the founders of that religion.. Which would make religious wars completely senseless. Everybody fighting over the representation of god while god itself holds all the same values people do in those religions. "No, my imaginary friend is better!" "NO! mine is !" (The representations not god itself)

Most humans know in their heart the difference between right and wrong. Most religions embody those human teachings of the heart. Both the good and the bad. Remember thousands of years ago they were not as advanced as we are now. Imaginations were much stronger. Stories to them are like movies to us. It would not be hard to create a god and devil for all to worship, and hold close in their hearts as what's described is every aspect of the human being.
"This devil in a not so distant land feeds on fear, turns man mad, and blahblahblah" ... Spread the tale. People will encounter fear and madness and think it's the devil. More believe it and by proxy it changes their minds and the whole populace as the easy association spreads like wild fire.

" Pray to god and he shall save you, when miracles happen it is the work of god!"
Thousands of years ago they didn't have science or anything like that to disprove what they could not understand. Anything outside of their understanding was labeled as a miracle. And so it is an act of god. The word spreads fast. Love, happiness etc also associated with god.

Can you see how this all connects now?

Might be some typo's or w.e.

Religions, sacred geometry, spirituality, science, psychology etc all have it's place in here and connect flawlessly.

Not meant to attack a certain person views or religion at all just connecting years of research in an effort to have a greater understanding on this subject.

-xtr1gger

http://myanimelist.net/anime/2596/Ghost_Hound
watched it, loved it. subtitled version. ^_^
thought some of you would enjoy this!
this type of astral projection show isn't focused on the bad ( like insidious )
sure it does have some moments like this as with every movie and show having to have some sort of conflict. (man vs man, man vs self, man vs nature)
but it is pretty awesome might even re-watch it soon 

Synopsis
In an isolated region of Kyushu lies the town of Suiten. Though seeming small and modest, Suiten is not a picturesque place for a vacation, unless it is from the "Unseen World". Taro, Makoto and Masayuki, three boys with traumatic pasts, learn to let their souls cross between the two parallel worlds. However, the Unseen World is no mere copy of the real Apparent World. The Unseen World is the home of ghosts, but changes are now allowing the souls of the dead to pass over into the Apparent World, with unpredictable effects. Follow the journey of Taro, Makoto and Masayuki, as they cross between the two worlds, trying to unravel a great mystery.

Hi, i'm having a hard time finding Astral binaural beats.
all i can find is frickin lucid dreaming ones....
Or astral ones however they are on youtube which is of absolutely no use to me.

i'm looking for some i can put on an ipod.

so if you know where i can find some let me know?
or if you know how to rip audio from a youtube vid through an addon or something that'll be great

Heya. did some attempts just recently and found a new twist on this method that might resonate with you

1st - the method.

When you reach the vibrational state, or any state of deep relaxation. Imagine a medium sized ball ( dodgeball, basketball, maybe a little larger if you want).

Toss up the ball and when you exhale, see it rise with your exhalation. Now when you inhale the ball will come back down from the ceiling close to your body, at this point when your near a full inhalation imagine your hands catch it. and again on the exhale toss that ball back up into the air.

Repeat this for about 5 - 10 minutes or until you feel you are ready for the next transition.  

here's where my spin comes in on this technique.
listen to the vibes, or feel your body and do some energy body techniques. after a few min go back to the technique above.

This time toss the ball up as you normally would but don't let go, imagine your body rising up with that ball when exhaling. feel yourself rise to the ceiling. see your arms, the ball, and your room.
when inhaling feel your energy body awareness fall into your physical body.  
this should cause your energy to resonate or you may feel waves or rocking when your energy body touches your physical.

Exhale, rise up with the ball.
Inhale, float down with the ball.
Exhale rise up with the ball
Inhale come down with the ball.

as i haven't had an OBE in over 3 years, this is the closest i have come so far from techniques.
Give it a shot!

----- I'm not sure but i think since you focus on the motion of tossing up the ball and visualize it coming down for 10 min or however long before hand, that part of the visualization is already strong so that when you add your body into the equation  it sort of tricks your mind. in a good way though, and a way we need.
just my opinion though

Projection attempt 3 of today.

began with guided meditation laying in a chair that reclines
back. it seemed like the right side of my body got more comfortable 1st, while the left was about
5 min behind it.i could feel my conscious start to shift, and after
a while of visualization could feel my right arm (from elbow down) start to very very slowly rise up.
at this point the view on my eye lids was no longer black, everything just immediately
became blueish with a bit of green, all one solid color though. it also felt like my eyes were trying to open
...i felt them blink a couple of times but then they remained shut and could still only see the blueish green.
the rest of my body could barely be felt but feeling was still slightly there.
at this point i tried to imagine my room, but nothing took shape.
after a few min of that i tried picturing a magnet above my body coming closer with each exhale
and farther with each inhale drawing my energy body out

i after about 15 min of visualizations nothing seemed to be working and i remembered that there was a  time limit so got out of the chair and looked back. tried jumping, to fly. but i was still in the physical.

after about 10 minutes of the guided meditation every single time i would inhale could feel my body rocking up and down (rocking up towards the skull, and down towards the feet)
at least 4 -6 pulses back and forth with each inhale..
is this normal?

after getting up from another failed attempt for about 3 minutes i still couldn't really tell, it feels like im in my energy body right now but also my physical.
like both are awakened, and kind of groggy. maybe my energy body is still a little active?

maybe i tried to get out to soon... should i have probably just continued with one of the methods and wait for my energy body to get sucked out by the magnet?

while or after you exit your body can you still hear the guided meditation?

Hello noobies interested in Astral projection, and hello veteran travelers and others. Wrote this so  new people interested in projecting can get an idea of what they are in for with days research topics. as well as maybe there is something some of the more seasoned travelers have missed if there is something in here that helps you out as well then great! here we go
as it is 4am here excuse the typo's.


Some of you should really give this a shot. being out of body is pretty awesome.
and who knows, maybe you'll have a natural talent for it. others have to train weeks,
months, sometimes years to shift their consciousness. there are many different methods, any will work just
have to find out suited for you.

you can do anything when your out of body.

-meet up with deceased loved ones
-shapeshift
-go to other planets
-float around your place
-go to higher realms of existence / consciousness
-get in touch with who you are deep down
-or if you really wanted to could put yourself in your favorite show or game
- Astral sex

And it all feels as real as this world, or even more so at times.

The things you learn in the etheric or astral realm you will learn here as well.
for example you could practice the guitar. you wake up in the physical world and
you will remember everything you learned in the astral.

"what about demons and ghosts, omg your a witch burn you i say!!..."

Lol... for the most part that ^ is wrong by the way. it's not demonic. Shaman's do it. Monks do it. High level priests do it. etc.

How should i put it...
if you go out with your friends on the weekend do you expect there to be demons, or trouble where you are going? or whenever you leave your house? how many of those situations turned out to be that you were worried about nothing? quite a few i imagine.
stepping into the astral realm is like this. not what you see or heard from movies.
if you do still have fear The trick is to not be afraid and just accept it. take in head on. pass the test so to speak.
if you go about it right your more likely to be struck by lightning.


one of the hardest parts is actually separating from your body while in the hypnagogic state. (aka sleep paralysis)
auditory hallucinations, visual hallucinations. and just the act of leaving your body behind and what comes with the process can be off setting at first. but you have to just Give In.
you get use to it, accept it, and realize that's just how it is when you separate!

most exercises start with relaxation. as you monitor your body relaxing changes will begin to happen
the physical body feelings that i have encountered so far (these states are when your close to leaving your body, and when you are fully relaxed) :
- full body vibrating, starting off low, and then becoming pretty intense and high. high frequency.
- the feeling like i was a giant puddle of pudding. no body just pudding. it was awesome!
- motion sickness
- having no body at all
- being 10 feet tall
- like your laying in a ocean with big waves
- Continous falling
- sometimes some of your limbs come out sooner then the others, so you can feel your arm or
leg of your energy body / soul / w.e you want to call it start rising.
- floating
- the feeling of my arms and legs bending upside my head and twisting in ways that are physically impossible.

(no pain associated with any of these by the way)

Notice how in recent horror flicks astral projection was put in. and in the most common religion here it's bashed on.
millions and millions spent on these movies to deter you away from projection. from evolution. If you don't know yet hollywood is bs!

Lets put it this way. you go out on the weekend and you convince yourself
your going to have a bad time. then ya you probably will.

same goes for this. go into it expecting to have fun or w.e, and that's what it'll be.


the more skilled can split there consciousness among 3 separate entities created by them. so in a way you would 3 people
at once (recalling this as Robert Monroe the god father of astral projection split himself in 7 while each one was working on something
else. and yes when he woke up he had the knowledge of all 7 of his duplicate selfs! )


Stuff to research and look into!

-OBE induction software
-Brainwave generator
-Hemi-sync
-Binaural beats
- Phasing
-Forced OBE
- guided meditations

methods_techniques
-Rope
-Magnet
-Mind awake body asleep
-projecting from a lucid dream
-ladder
-spinning
-running
-weightless
-wave exit technique
- Astral Projection Separation Techniques

Basics ---
Robert Monroe
Monroe Institute
Astral Projection
Out Of Body Experiences
Brainwave Mind Voyage
Hemi-Sync
Astral Projection Techniques

Good luck, and have fun!

[but has anyone here tried using it for astral projection?]

Mugwort has proven to give me lucid dreams effortlessly.

it's active component is called Thujone which apparently can't be removed from the body once it is in ( even though it is small amounts it builds up.)
so i would advise against ingesting it.

i would rip up some mugwort, put it in a pouch, and keep it right by my pillow and just the odor of this can give you lucid dreams.

but has anyone here tried using it for astral projection? given my current low level of experience with this herb, it seems like it would help with spontaneous OBE's ...

Hi, i was wondering how successful / non-successful people have been with using hemi-sync or binaural beats.
share away

[how can i separate from my body once reaching these states?]

Hello, i'm new to this forum but not to astral projection.
i'll be as detailed as possible to hopefully get some help from veteran traveler's.

have had 3 out of body experiences in the past.
reached the following multiple times :
vibrational state, white noise, thunder, sound of a speeding train going by my head, numbness all over, arm(s) out, leg(s) out, the feeling of being a giant blob of pudding.

My question is how can i separate from my body once reaching these states?
(yes i have spent a few hours a day for a week looking this up. on here and elsewhere. i've seen the faq's and such.)

2 nights ago i was very very close but was afraid to try rolling out of my body or moving a limb as i thought it would be in the physical and ruin the work it took to get to this state.

Started off listening to a guided meditation hemi-sync, began relaxing.whole body became calm, and numb until i couldn't feel it anymore. at that point i worked with my energy body making it bigger. it felt like i was a 10 ft tall man in my bed.
from here (probably about an hour after starting the hemi-sync file) i started to get the feeling of motion sickness. and could feel my arms being out of body.
from there i began to visualize climbing a rope, ripping it up on a dirt bike going off of huge jumps, a giant magnet on my ceiling moving towards and away starting off slow and short to fast and long after a while. but nothing worked! so i then started imagining myself at the beach, somewhere away from my bedroom as perhaps that itself was a distraction? then boom. lights out. woke up the next morning with no obe.

Also how can you stop yourself from having to swallow saliva every5 - 10 minutes? XD i noticed it kept my head anchored while some of my energy body would be out and it is very, very frustrating =\

thanks, and i can include more details if needed!
-xTr1gger

p.s -  1 past experience has been from the reality check method and affirmations before going to sleep. ( suppose to be for lucid dreaming yet i awoke out of my body being pleasantly surprised. instead of am i dreaming? would say am i in the astral...? )

[successful OBE's - 3]

Hey all!
I have been practicing astral projection on and off for about 10-12 years now.
unfortunately more off then on, but will have time to train harder soon !

successful OBE's - 3
preteen - went to another planet as our planet was being destroyed.
teen - floated around the upper floor of the place i was living in
young adult - went to hell... or i guess the lower realms would be a better way of putting it . got tortured and everything but i will not let one bad experience ruin such an amazing thing!!

Successful vibes/motion sickness/noises/etc - Lost count.

Nice to meet you all!

p.s. the descriptions of my obe's are brief as at the moment that would be A lot to type. plan on sharing them at a later date!