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#1
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / FireFly's Log
October 28, 2014, 22:00:32
I decided to start a log here, so initially am copying and pasting from a former post I did on another forum since it explains my method.  All comments welcome.

I do a version of the body asleep/mind awake technique (an adaption of the Munroe technique - greatly simplified).  My success is still in the infantile stages, but it is a process that works for me, at least for now.

Since we all go to the body freeze state (paralysis) when we are asleep each night and then move on from there in consciousness to the astral plane during dream time, the trick of this technique is to fool the body into thinking you are asleep in order to experience it lucidly.... (as I see it, and have read elsewhere).  If I stay perfectly still for a long time, long enough to get to the body numb stage, (along with sleep-like breathing and getting to the theta state).....AND if I'm tired enough, I have been able to float out.  So far this is not under my control, ie I don't roll out etc. What I'm assuming is happening is that the consciousness is actually on its way to the dream zone as in normal sleep. (Dream zone is a term used by author Kurt Leland who has mapped the inner planes extensively through years of lucid experience.)

Arriving on the astral plane in a lucid state (using this method) is my goal, but so far I haven't gotten past the float (transit) stage.  I would agree that any fear prevents the process, but I also think that it's important not to let the body know you are awake by directing the experience in any way (for this particular method) - but I'm still playing with this.  I'll report on how I do.

Other than using this process I have gotten out of the body on several occasions (more or less spontaneously) to fly around what 'looks' like the physical plane, in my astral body.  This success has been limited by my inexperience but I am quite happy to have these practice sessions. So far during OBEs I haven't been able to have interactions with other beings, am off my myself, and NOT very lucid.  I certainly don't scoff at anything I can accomplish however, as each time I get out I get to practice trying to stay calm, and remembering to get lucid.  {I also work to become lucid 'during' dreams - which is how Leland does it, and this is WAY cool when it happens, but very rare for me so far.}

Back in February of this year I had my first OBE using this method.  I remained perfectly still and maintained the body numb stage for at least 2 hours (this is not sleep paralysis by the way) and I eventually started to leave through my feet.  I don't go into the vibrational state, but this may be because of the stage of learning I am at.  I have felt the beginnings of, or a soft form of, the vibrational state and have also heard the rushing wind-like sound, but not very loudly if at all.   Anyway, I floated out like a log on my back.  Once out, instead of travelling feet first to wherever it was I was headed, I was rotated 180 degrees and began to move foward head first (still on my back).  I had no control over this rotation and was surprised when it happened. I moved along in a sort of tunnel. When the speed increased I could feel the wind going past me. As usual with my OBEs I became very excited and in this case really wanting this experience to get past the motion stage and into the astral plane and to have a lucid experience there (no matter what form it might take - for now), but I cut it short by trying to direct it.  In this case both excitement and wanting to travel faster sent me immediately back to my body.  Drats....as I see it the body caught on that I wasn't asleep before I got past this transitional state and into dream zone.

I'm past having any fear of this, and also beyond wanting to just experience the etheric body (the light body that can't get further away from the physical than 10 feet or so).  It's the astral body that I want to be in and to eventually become proficient in utilizing the astral body 'senses' (read Kurt Leland) to gain full access to the astral plane.  'Full' access (as opposed to limited access) takes training and spiritual mastery of the astral body - which is essentially mastery of the emotions.  Following that comes master of the thoughts.

The various bodies and planes are discussed extensively by Leland, and also by Seth to some extent, and by Annie Besant (who coined the body level terms) in early Theosophical writings.  Each plane requires a body equivalent.... that is, you use your astral body to travel the astral plane, the mental body to travel the mental plane, the causal body for the causal plane etc. and each body has its own unique set of sensing tools (activated chakras perhaps) that allow you to 'experience' and interact on that plane.

The etheric body is the lowest body and is essentially a double of the physical (as is well explained by William Buhlman).  The etheric has its value on the physical plane, and although you can move your consciousness fully into the etheric body you can't go anywhere in it.   The astral body allows travel and you also use this body during most dreams.  During an OBE that's the one you need to master first if you want experience beyond the Real Time Zone (RTZ) and into the 'astral proper' as Frank calls it.

Cool stuff me thinks.  
#2
I've been doing minor APs for a while and although most are fairly non-lucid I have accomplished some RTZ (real time zone) projections (mostly after reading and practicing some of the Buhlman techniques).  I have also had a few spontaneous projections where I was able to experience what clear lucidity is like.  My focus for a good while now has been to learn phasing (although I have just recently learned that 'phasing' is what it is called) since it's not the RTZ I'm trying to explore.  Instead I desire to get to the 'astral proper' as Frank would call it.  

I can get to the 'body asleep/mind awake' stage and have floated out by doing this.  My process is still arduous however.... as I have to lay still for something like 2 hours to trick my body into thinking I'm asleep (the Robert Peterson method), and then attempt to get past the itching, sweating, urge to roll over bit - as my body seems determined to make sure I am asleep before it proceeds or allows the consciousness to shift to the dream zone/astral.  It normally wins and I give up.  I have however floated out through my feet on several occasions by doing this technique but so far have not arrived anywhere on the other side.  When I do this I floated out on my back and then begin to go through what seems like a tunnel.  The cool thing has been that when I get past the foot of the bed, by body rotates so that I'm traveling head first... but I am not directing this and this turn surprised me the first time it happened.  I can feel the movement, the wind in my hair and the speed which is exciting, but up until last night my excitement would end the process. I'm not sure where I am off to (although I expect the body is releasing me to dream zone... or so it thinks), and I hesitate to direct it since I'm pretty sure, at this point, I will end up back in my body even sooner.

This morning around 5 am I woke up and knowing my mind was already too active to get into a meditation or OBE practice I decided to listen to ocean waves embedded with a theta binary beat frequency.  This got me to a theta state quite easily for a change which only happens when I'm tired enough.  I experienced a light and soft buzzing which persisted even after the audio had ended.  (I don't experience the vibrational state, or at least not anything obvious beyond a soft buzzing.)  I'm psyched that I have finally mastered the excitement (thanks to the 'Franks Posts' which makes the need to do this quite clear) as I was able to stay calm and emotionally neutral.  This morning I also nixed any head chatter while the experience was happening and thus I floated on route to somewhere for quite a while.  When the 1st experience ended I was able to get back to the same tunnel 2 more times and in a very lucid OB state.

I was less theta after the 3rd tunnel trip, but felt I should still be able to project to the RTZ because I had such a strong pulling sensation on my solar plexus area.  I have experienced this pulling many times, but have never been able to use it to get out.  Does anyone else experience this?  

Anyway, after a long frustrating dry spell I was happy to gain what feels like a smidgen of progress.  :-P

#3
I have made a post or two and have also been pouring over all the info here, but I thought I should add a brief intro.  I have already begun the phasing practice and feel this is a technique that could very well get me past my long dry spell of late as far as OBEs are concerned.  I've had some etheric and astral body experiences but arrived here looking for potential support, techniques, and to read about other people's experiences.  I wish I'd found this forum sooner.  

I have read many of the OBE books includin Buhlman's three books and Ziewe, but when I got to Multidimensional Human by Kurt Leland that became my favorite and I have since then covered a lot of ground regarding theosophy including Annie Besant, Seth, Leadbeater and others, which gives one good backgrounding on the sequential growth we go through, and how to approaching out of body travel as a spiritual practice.  

What I like about Multidimensional Human is Kurt's explaination of the planes, the need to develop/strengthen the various bodies (astral, mental, causal, etc) in order to visit and navigate those planes, and also the development of the tools for interacting there and/or bringing back the experience by translating it in a way the waking mind can understand.  I'm always surprised that more people haven't read it.  Kurt's experiences with guides etc on the higher planes falls very much in line with Frank's.  You can read many of his adventures on his website.

Kurt really emphases dream analysis as a means of  receiving messages from your soul's perspective, and I have subsequently gotten into this in a big way.

After reading his 'Crash Course on Dream Analysis' (the best I have ever come across - and I was a psychology major) I have really worked on learning my metaphoric dream language which helps one to translate dream experiences/messages and to get an idea of progress.  For those who are dismissing much of their dream content I highly recommend this quick read.....http://www.kurtleland.com/dream-interpretation/crash-course.  

Bashar has an excellent short talk on this as well regarding how the dream happens all at once (outside of time), that we must then extract it into a sequence, and figure out the meaning of the metaphors we have applied in order to bring it in.  Bashar is channelled by Darryl Anka -  http://youtu.be/6T5ZLdD7Pkw

Looking forward to sharing and participating here.