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Dear Colleagues,

I have seen a number of posts in regards to energy raising problems. If you can't get any other method to work, I think I discovered a new visualization which helps me get more out of it... but first I'd like someone more experienced to confirm it before I can recommend it for general usage;

Moving your body awareness concentrate on the knee. Shape and feel it and be totally aware of it like with any pre-energy raising routine from Mr. Bruce's book, next concentrate on the center of the knee, approximately 1 inch beneath the skin or wherever you 'feel' the center to be. Start imagining a cold, thin, crisp stream of water running through the center of the knee.

This enhanced my experience a whole lot more; it also works on the other joints with the same magnitude. I am still raising energy and haven't read the rest of the Astral Dynamics book so I apologize for plagerism if its mentioned further down, my intention was to share and contribute.

Take it lightly,

Vojn Svetla Gorskog

I think there are two kinds at least: those who lean on others for life energy (directly) and those who use other people's emotions to get to their life energy. The first are "just" leaving one feeling drained (but alive) and the latter can literally beat you up spiritually. Most of them do that instinctively (they don't know  what they are doing, some probably think they have "unusual leadership talents" or the like).

Usually one has to let them in - via empathy or direct contact. If that doesn't happen they sometimes go for it and take it themselves - i.e. by suicide threats (forced empathy) or physical contact, violent or not, trespassing on another's space. It can be touching someone's arm. That happened to me last week. I avoided eye contact with the vampire, did not engage in anything other than polite and distant conversation and kept out of his space. Suddenly he approached me and touched my arm. That did it

I think it's nearly impossible to distinguish in a normal dream.  Any intelligence could be your own or a guide.
If you were to become lucid, near or at the point of controlling the dream yourself, it will be easy to recognize foreign influence.  Sometimes when I try to change things, the dream self-corrects or I feel resistance.  This is simply either my subconscious or my guide.  Once I was in a lucid dream, on a bus, and a passenger 'felt' different from the rest of the fake animated people.  He didn't contribute to the plot and appeared halfway through, just sitting there and seemed very dark.  I paused the dream and yelled at him directly to get out, and it did  I doubt any neg-created dream would be elaborate and full of plot.. I think the only reason one would create a dream is to induce a level of fear and lack of control.  If all it's energy were spent creating a dream, it wouldn't have the energy to sap yours.
Just thought of something... Bruce speaks of some core-images not being your own, created by a neg.  I wonder if the process of implanting one would involve a dream sequence, designed to make a certain fear or deep emotion, and we're rarely 'lucky' enough to remember it?

Congradulations on improving your life.  Robert Bruces book has also changed my life for the better as I am sure it has for everyone who has read it.  It is nice to hear of other peoples success with this amazing book.

Maybe he had neg attachments.. many homeless people have mental illness.  According to RB the two are connected.  I know they closed the mental institutions in the state im in so we have a lot of homeless who are like that.

I dont know which is worse..

hm, this is strange. but i'm not sure if i would know what it is. hopefully someone else will. it could be your imagination, but if it's not then it might be a good idea to find out what it is.

at the very least, you can keep letting it happen and keep learning as much as you can about what is going on. maybe something in the situation will change so that it becomes more apparent what is going on.

~kakkarot

Good day/night!  I am by no means an expert on this stuff, but none the less I will give you what I know/think is happening.  First off, filling your sub-naval storage center and having it overflow into your sub-heart center is normal.  I had read in either the OBE treatise or the NEW energy system, that (think the former) this is completely normal, and will happen.  It stimulates the sub-naval and the others on up because it is overflowing.  May I ask what it is that makes you want to stop the energy from overflowing as I would think that this is what is wanted to be accomplished.  You are very lucky to be able to do what you do, I am working toward that as much as possible.  Enjoy by all means!  

hope this helped in the slightest and maybe Adrian or someone else can shed more light on this.

Thanks!!

Nick