Greeting, all... I've been reading through the posts for a couple of days now and gathered bits and pieces I needed, but still...
Bit of history first: I remember my first OBE when I was seven or eight floating under the ceiling looking down at myself in a hospital before I woke up from anesthesia... I also had quite some lucid dreams in my time... all this was not conssioussly induced, though... some years back I had the opportunity to play with a mind machine used for neurolinguistic teaching at work - couldn't get enough of it, yet I don't remember if i ever had any deeper experience during those experiences... I have been intensely working on myself and my awareness during the last two years for selfhealing purposes and learning about my inner self...
My first intentional OBE attempt (a week ago) brought me straight to intense vibes quite easily through meditation, feeling my astral self struggling to exit the physical body but failing every time as i felt anchored somewhere in the region of the sacral chakra, causing a sensation like being V-shaped, including involuntary raising of my upper body, head and shoulders in particular. My mind was to focused on the physical sensations and observing the process to even have a real chance to go any further. All in all, i was extremely pleased with the achievement and it was a very satisfying experience, resulting in extremely high energy and inner happiness levels the following couple of days.
My second try changed situation a bit, the anchor moved to the throat area, resulting in eventual gasp for air and causing something like a badly sore throat feeling. Gasping for air subsided the vibes, but they just kept coming and i eventually felt to exhausted (after four hours or so) that I made myself get out of bed and walk around the house. For a while I had equilibrium problems as my body wanted to wave (forcing me to swing back and forth) and I had to grab on to something to prevent falling at some point. I had trouble opening my eyes completely and had to force it open. After a while things calmed down and i went to sleep.
The next day i felt ungrounded throughout the day and found i extremely difficult to function in the physical world, so i grounded myself through meditation and things got better, I actually got some things done. Going to bed, seriously too late, the vibes just came on their own, so i had very little time to perform my grounding/protection ritual, my body went numb and paralised almost on its own and the previous night's story started to repeat with some new phenomena like beeps in my left ear. I felt my astral body trying to get out in a number of ways (i tried to use rope technique, almost succeeded, dropped and then decided to let myself to try any other exit method) - rising slowly like a cloud/mist, rolling out on the side, sitting up is what I felt is being tried. I didn't try this at my will, I just let things unwrap. The throat thing happened again, and something similar in the area of third eye in the final stage, although I felt a surge of energy coming out of it after some time. I also noticed I was able to become more detached and passive during the process, more an observer that an active participant.
Now to my question - I remember reading a short post on the throat issue but can't seem to find it again... can anybody provide more input on that or direct me?
And, yes, of course i get all the other symptoms like heart pounding, cramps, sufficcating sensations, twitches, extreme vibes, low liquid vibes in all directions, involuntary movements of my body, body sinking, floating, and so forth. I just don't seem to be able to completely separate.
And a word to people experimenting with psychedelic drugs and alcohol - especially pot seem to block me, after smoking I tend to fade to sleep, not remembering dreams or any other occurrences, so my advice would be not to use it. As for alcohol, after my first try I feel the need to stay away from it and even a beer with friends after workout doesn't appeal to me any more, I rather have some tea or something. Also, I tend to drink extreme amounts of water, eat significantly more fruit then before and generally have to make myself eat at least one square meal in a day.
Bit of history first: I remember my first OBE when I was seven or eight floating under the ceiling looking down at myself in a hospital before I woke up from anesthesia... I also had quite some lucid dreams in my time... all this was not conssioussly induced, though... some years back I had the opportunity to play with a mind machine used for neurolinguistic teaching at work - couldn't get enough of it, yet I don't remember if i ever had any deeper experience during those experiences... I have been intensely working on myself and my awareness during the last two years for selfhealing purposes and learning about my inner self...
My first intentional OBE attempt (a week ago) brought me straight to intense vibes quite easily through meditation, feeling my astral self struggling to exit the physical body but failing every time as i felt anchored somewhere in the region of the sacral chakra, causing a sensation like being V-shaped, including involuntary raising of my upper body, head and shoulders in particular. My mind was to focused on the physical sensations and observing the process to even have a real chance to go any further. All in all, i was extremely pleased with the achievement and it was a very satisfying experience, resulting in extremely high energy and inner happiness levels the following couple of days.
My second try changed situation a bit, the anchor moved to the throat area, resulting in eventual gasp for air and causing something like a badly sore throat feeling. Gasping for air subsided the vibes, but they just kept coming and i eventually felt to exhausted (after four hours or so) that I made myself get out of bed and walk around the house. For a while I had equilibrium problems as my body wanted to wave (forcing me to swing back and forth) and I had to grab on to something to prevent falling at some point. I had trouble opening my eyes completely and had to force it open. After a while things calmed down and i went to sleep.
The next day i felt ungrounded throughout the day and found i extremely difficult to function in the physical world, so i grounded myself through meditation and things got better, I actually got some things done. Going to bed, seriously too late, the vibes just came on their own, so i had very little time to perform my grounding/protection ritual, my body went numb and paralised almost on its own and the previous night's story started to repeat with some new phenomena like beeps in my left ear. I felt my astral body trying to get out in a number of ways (i tried to use rope technique, almost succeeded, dropped and then decided to let myself to try any other exit method) - rising slowly like a cloud/mist, rolling out on the side, sitting up is what I felt is being tried. I didn't try this at my will, I just let things unwrap. The throat thing happened again, and something similar in the area of third eye in the final stage, although I felt a surge of energy coming out of it after some time. I also noticed I was able to become more detached and passive during the process, more an observer that an active participant.
Now to my question - I remember reading a short post on the throat issue but can't seem to find it again... can anybody provide more input on that or direct me?
And, yes, of course i get all the other symptoms like heart pounding, cramps, sufficcating sensations, twitches, extreme vibes, low liquid vibes in all directions, involuntary movements of my body, body sinking, floating, and so forth. I just don't seem to be able to completely separate.
And a word to people experimenting with psychedelic drugs and alcohol - especially pot seem to block me, after smoking I tend to fade to sleep, not remembering dreams or any other occurrences, so my advice would be not to use it. As for alcohol, after my first try I feel the need to stay away from it and even a beer with friends after workout doesn't appeal to me any more, I rather have some tea or something. Also, I tend to drink extreme amounts of water, eat significantly more fruit then before and generally have to make myself eat at least one square meal in a day.