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#1
I had some strange things happen this time that I've never experienced before.  After experiences like this astral vision certainly seems confusing and hard to get used to.  

I slowly woke up from a dream and focused on projecting.  The vibes came on and I relaxed.  I was sort of stuck in my body but I could see the room from my couch, I wasn't separated.  I stayed calm.  It looked like there was something in the way of my vision for a second.  I finally floated out and it felt like I was losing some control but I didn't panic even though it was tempting to think some demon was dragging me off the couch.  When I got out I saw the room from a really odd perspective that I can't really explain but it involved the TV.  It was kind of like I saw a bunch of different objects that looked separate all in one space together, but I couldn't even tell what angle I was viewing them from.  I was able to walk even though it was hard to keep my balance.  I looked at my hands and they faded out just like I had read about.  

I was standing by my mini-fridge and tried to mentally create something but it didn't work I also did this by the bed.  I saw my reflection in the TV which was odd because from the reflection I could tell that I was having problems moving since I kept swaying to the side.  It looked just like me and I think I was even wearing the same shirt.  When I decided to go back I just hit myself with my astral hand in the forehead and felt it, and that brought me back in an instant.  This was my longest OBE so far that I had some control of.  I doubt it was in real-time because a few things may have been out of place but I didn't pay too much attention to detail.  One strange thing that happened was after getting up my forehead was tingling a little with energy, this was where I had hit myself with my astral hand to wake up.
#2
Hi,
I too have become interested in teaching myself Phasing. I have had many projections all of which have been into the RTZ, I don't have problems with the phenomena that are characteristic of the build up to the exit or with the exit itself, but I did the first few times as it seemed so alien to me.

Sustaining my concentration when I am out has proved to be difficult and so too has movement, I originally assumed from what I had read and been told that when I was out of body I would still have my original dimensions something that isn't the case for me.

I still enjoy the 'traditional' method of Oobe, I don't have total control of it either but I can expect to experience some phenomena a couple of times a week.
I set a subconscious trigger to awaken me at some point in the night, what usual follows is that I'll wake up paralysed looking through my eyelids into the RTZ, from here I can either stay and just look or 'Will' myself to leave.

I would say that my 'traditional' Oobe's start consciously at some point around F10 or thereabouts, I am definitely conscious and aware when I start to feel vibrations and can briefly see into the RTZ before I leave, I then blackout and find myself out of body.

The method I am currently using to Phase starts by making sure that I am very relaxed before going to bed, I then lie down, keeping my body very relaxed and very still.

I focus on calming my breathing and making it deep and slow, from behind my closed eyes I look into the darkness, after a short period the darkness seems to gain some depth, at about this time I am aware of an absolute silence, I feel as if I can hear everything but there is nothing to hear, I know that must sound strange but it is very peaceful.
My breathing feels very shallow as if it has almost come to a halt or stopped, either way I am not fully aware of it and it feels quite distant.

I'll see abstract forms and flashes of colour or light, this can become interspersed with what I would call dream imagery or diurnal flashbacks, this can detract from my gentle focus and is probably due to my mind wandering.

And that is about as far as I have progressed, I would say that I am hovering just below F10 when this is all happening, my body isn't paralysed but it does feel very heavy.

I think and from what I have read that focusing on the abstract forms can help, I have certainly had moments where my consciousness seems to flit out there momentarily and then flit back again.

There are some great links in the sticky posts forum that go into great detail about Phasing, I was in there last night for ages soaking up all of the information! Sorry to have gone on for ages, I wish you every success with your efforts!
#3
I have heard of these things happening, but don't know if it's true. Perhaps next time it happens try out the FM channels as I think that would be better reception to the brain, or the new XM channels if you can. or maybe you are getting TV signals? hey, free satelite would be nice you know. [:D]
#4
Thanks Makaveli. Lots of good stuff there!
#5
This type of lucid dreaming consistent with luxus sleep, feeling of separation from the body, and tunnel sight in the near bed zone. Your practice may turn on a new course.

Get away from your bed as quickly as you can while make surface contact of the walls. Move to dream places which brighter than the previous.

Then establish a stable point in the dreamscape and begin wander your attention in growing routes. Don't stare anything and don't try to fly until the dream stabilize itself. Then raise the level of consciousness and you're ready to go.
#6
Here is what I usually do:

1) Remain Calm.  As hard as it is in the beginning, it's important that you don't get too excited.  Just reassure yourself mentally that you have complete trust and faith in the experience, and to "just go with it."

2) Once you find yourself separated, take 3 deep astral breaths.  As the air comes into your astral body, imagine yourself getting more lucid and strong within your environment.  Sometimes having an OBE feels like getting out of bed with a hangover...things are fuzzy, hard to control, etc.  You have to have a CLEAR HEAD to have a clear experience, and taking these astral breaths help.

3) In the beginning, don't try and fly anywhere!  This is just my own personal rule, which doesn't have to be followed.  The reason why I have this rule is because in the beginning, flying from point A to point B is a surefire way to lose control and end up back in bed.

I suggest that you just explore your own environent.  In the beginning of my astral journeys, when I would separate and find myself in my bedroom, I would walk out of my house and just explore around the area.  No need to try and fly to some foreign country, or the API.  There is plenty to do within the confines of your neighborhood.  You could stop and talk to astral entities walking around, or jump on top of your roof and see the surrounding neighborhood from a birds perspective, etc.

The more of these local experiences you have, the easier you begin to control the overall OBE experience in general....so in the future, you WILL be able to fly from point A to point B without losing control.
#7
Hehe, that's cool, it sounds alot like an experience I had a couple of weeks ago, I posted it as 'can you name the song?', but unlike yours I was in a dream when it happened. When it happens while you're in trance it tells you're at a good level of trance and can promptly leave the body.

I believe hypnagogy and phasing are the same thing, if you work up the images and seep into them you will find yourself in another environment.

Maybe you could get part of the lyrics and search on the search engines. I only got 3 words of the song and didn't find anything that would relate. I even heard the announcer saying the time and confirmed it later.
#8
Thanks for the links, Makaveli. There are a lot of links on those pages! [:)]
#9
I know that it is not easy to lie (and fall asleep) on your back, except when you feel very relaxed. A lot of people can't lie on their back for long when they go to sleep because they feel too tense/stressed, they have worries, etc... They tend to need to turn over on their side or stomach, because this makes them feel more at ease and/or more protected.

So perhaps you have things on your mind, which makes it hard for you to stay lying on your back for long in a relaxed way. But maybe this is not the case. Are there certain parts of your body which you find difficult to relax when lying on your back? I have learnt that some things you can do to become more relaxed and have your body stay totaly relaxed for a longer period of time is, to put a cushion (or something comparable) under your legs (at the hight of your knees), and also to place your arms along the side of your body.
I would think that when you look at the back of your eye-lids, you would focuss too much on one spot to be able to relax completely (with your whole body). It is often hardest (at least, that's my experience) to relax your head/face. I have no trouble relaxing the other parts of my body. I always have to pay attention (not too much ofcourse) to my face, especially my brow/forehead, because this part tenses up pretty quickly. As soon as I'm aware that I have, for example, raised my brow again, I let it relax and I immediately feel much more relaxed again. But this is, as I said, how I "deal" with it.

Good luck with this "challenge".

Take care.

Mica
#10
1. Brow chakra becoming active
2. your energy body is what's twisting around trying to come loose
3. see 2

Keep at it, looks like your making good progress.

2cents & L&L
jouni
#11
It's very possible. I, and many people, believe that dogs can see and see and sense things that we humans can't.

For example, I am really into ghosts, and have heard stories about dogs seeing them, including one from my boss. She brought her dog into the basement at work [which is haunted] and the dog fought her and tried to run the other way. She also said that the former curator tried it with her dog and the same thing happened.

I had a projection a while back in which the dog started barking at me when I got near him. However, I could not tell if it actually happened or not, as there were distortions in my projection. I asked Mom later that day if the dog was barking that morning, but oddly enough, she couldn't remember.

Another thing I should add is that when I've tried to project thru meditation, and I had a dog on the bed with me, she/he would often react, usually when I get to that point of 'almost projection'.
#12
The more you keep trying and the more you experience the more you will realize there is nothing to fear but fear itself.