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Hey all, long time no see.

Anyhow, I'd like to propose an idea. I tried a few forum searches but didn't come up with anything conclusive, although I do remember it being discussed some time back.

So, Astral Projection... is it all in the mind? No, I don't mean are we just imagining it. I mean, does it only take place in the mind? If we were leaving our mind and traveling into an open public space, then surely we'd meet thousands of other people who are doing the same thing.

What I'm wondering is that perhaps when we project we merely go into the planes of our subconscious; the part of ourself that is infinitely truthful and notices everything our 'higher self'. What I've also been wondering is... are the spirits we meet the actual person talking to us? Or is it the remnant of their memories contacting us? I'd say it was the latter.

These are a few things I'd like some different and more experienced perspective on, although everyone is free to give their opinion .

So, what do you think about the questions and ideas I proposed?

Awareness. A word I see allot around here. But why do you wish to become more Aware? I know it's just the human condition to, but I'd like to know why -you- specifically do

I was wondering...Is there anyone that manages to achieve an OBE, lucid dream or AP every single night?

Okay so over my months here I have read a fair few exiting methods, now of which don't seem to work for me, I have only experienced full sleep paralysis this week and find it incredibly easy to get to that state, but what I want to know is...

Whats the best technique for you?

So I was wondering...do you think the reason it's so...electrical and vibrational is because this is inside our heads? yes it's real and true, but do you think we ever actually leave our minds? I mean if we did that...we wouldn't be able to think...Perhaps all humans minds are connected?

So in light of my first OBE, I wanted to ask two questions, so I know what to do next.

1. To get away from the physical plane and up onto the proper astral planes what do you have to do? Close your eyes and think of going there, or verbally say it?

2. Are all things in the astral governed by verbal commands i.e if I wanted to see the lottery would I just have to say "Show me the winning lottery numbers of euromillions."? and do the verbal commands manifest in the physical plane in the form of sleep talking?

Okay, so I see on this forum allot of failure and allot of techniques that didn't help me much, I believe everyone has their unique way and all that jazz...

I registered here on February 12, 2009, It is currently August 11, 2009. So just so you know it doesn't -have- to take a couple of years, and by far the easiest way to OBE is LDing.

So here's my story...Two days ago, I had my first LD which I had attempted many times before with no avai. I wrote a topic about it.

Well, the other morning I had my first Lucid dream, I believe I had enough consciousness to turn it into an AP, but I didn't know what to expect of one as I'd never had it before, I was simply too excited that I'd -finally- thought I'd reached an AP, I thought...there must be a way to test it, so I said "Let me fly" and sort of just moved up using my mind...I thought that was fool proof, but then I woke up and consulted it some more I realised it was an LD because of all the dream like things, I will be much more vigilant next time.

So...after making that mistake, I was set to have another LD again sometimes and correct it and of course, as I said "I will be much more vigilant next time." this was true.

So, one night no dreams in between, then last night...I couldn't get to sleep and I tried to get myself to sleep obviously...I thought through a plethora of different dream scenario's one of them being at my school in a lesson...I only just realized how much this helped, when I finally did get to sleep I had a dream I was in my school, and being in such a common place I wanted to do things I would usually do that reverted from what the dream wanted, this is what got me lucid...then I had a teacher who was literally telling me how to OBE, she said "Think of a dream scenario and pull yourself out!" So I tried this and ended up being a medieval knight running to battle, I stopped and just yanked him as hard as I could and I came out partially, but I didn't realize...I thought I might be out...but it felt to real and I was worried I had just woken up...so I was halfway leaning over my bed and tried to touch the ground and it felt like real life so I continued, my teacher told me to think of a scenario when I was in danger so I imagined a giant beast was after me and I was backed into a wall, but I was watching from 3rd person...I saw someone behind me through the wall, she was  female I think it was my guide...my mind manifested her into the female at the top of this forum. Next think I know, I'm propped up in bed...but It's a bright as day in my room...as if I didn't have a ceiling...but I did...It felt so real, so like waking life...but I could hear spirits talking the whole time...I walked to my door but didn't go through, because I didn't force myself, I just thought I could float through...So...I thought to make sure I wasn't sleep walking I would turn round to look at my body, knowing full well this would take me back as I had read, I needed to know...So I did...I was lying there as crisp as day! My arm was resting on a pillow besides me and my eyes were flickering open slightly as I looked at myself, I felt vibrations everywhere through this whole OBE and then I moved my arm and my physical arm moved slightly too...Next thing I know...I'm back in my body no longer dreaming no longer OBEing...I decided okay it's over and came to post this!

So that is my technique :

- Imagine a dream of you in common life (i.e work) before you go to sleep
and
- Have a plethora of dream scenario's before you go to sleep.

Hope you liked my experiences!

Well, the other morning I had my first Lucid dream, I believe I had enough consciousness to turn it into an AP, but I didn't know what to expect of one as I'd never had it before, I was simply too excited that I'd -finally- thought I'd reached an AP, I thought...there must be a way to test it, so I said "Let me fly" and sort of just moved up using my mind...I thought that was fool proof, but then I woke up and consulted it some more I realised it was an LD because of all the dream like things, I will be much more vigilant next time.

Okay so..I thought I had got pretty close to Projecting..but it appears not..Before I had experienced Intense vibrations..but not this fine tuned or so complete around my body..I will tell you how it happened.

So, that night..I tried multiple techniques..Counting twenty breaths, which got rid of my blocked up nose and got my body into a relaxed state I tried the Phasing Technique, and the looking to the top of my head technique, it appeared so that these didn't work..but little to my knowing..It may have done more than I thought.

So..I woke up in the morning..But my eyes were closed..I never have my eyes closed when I wake up..I kept them closed and soon realised..My body was vibrating at an extremely tuned rate...I knew I was in the final stage before Exiting..So. I Attempted Phasing first..my eyes went to somewhere I hadn't seen before..My eyes were already light..but Phasing didn't happen..I attempted to Roll..But I didn't move atall..I just imagined my body rolling out..nothing happened..I tried for abit longer..again nothing..So then I remembered a Technique I read about a while ago...Although My arms weren't aligned in the right place for it. But I tried anyhow..I Imagined my hands being pulled out by a Boat going at great speed..This did have some effect, I felt my right hand lift from my body only slightly..It was like..Disaligned, Yet It took no affect on the rest of my body..I finally tried to Exit by looking to the top of my head to see If there was somewhere I could exit from. I felt a tiny bit closer..and tried to move my arms without actually moving them..nothing moved..I felt like there was one more thing I needed todo..

Also..just one more detail, It felt like my legs were over the cover, apart from my feet..but after I did all these attempts..I gave up and my awareness rised abit from the sound of cars outside, I Opened my eyes slowly and I felt temporary Blindness ! the White that was in my eyes from before..took abit of time to seep away..it was what I had heard being described before ! I was happy I got further than ever before..but annoyed I wasn't able to move out, I noticed, once I gained view again..my legs -were- under the covers ! I was fairly lucid and in a relaxed state by then and tried again..Closed my eyes and began to breath calmly automatically..the state came back..but now I had been awake..My body seemed to have gained abit more awareness and then my Hay fever started..I was extremely annoyed at this, I had another chance but I couldn't take it due to my hay fever !!

Okay so, I've been on this forum for a while and only just noticed a few topics i have not looked at before, ones that explain in detail about phasing etc.. and just wanted to post my findings..

Well, so I tried the Phasing technique to do with the 3D blackness etc..and this brought me a whole different close to OBE's. A whole different sensation, but again, the same Base symptoms of feeling my body getting very heavy, so I know I was close, the main problem was keeping my sight in the Blackness apposed to my eyes. Yet, this has been the first time I tried the phasing and also the first time I had felt my body go to sleep.

Sorry for lack of detail, that is just me.

But please post your comments !

What do you believe happens after we die ? I am slightly stumped on this, people say we get reincarnated until we have learnt all we can etc..but, im not so sure. Would we not go into the highest plane after we die and be free'd from the bonds of our physical body ?

As the title says, Does it feel real when you are in an AP ? or is it like an unknown feeling until you have done it ?

And my second question, can I learn while im in the astral ? Can I go back to when I was in the classroom and hear what I would have missed otherwise ? and is going forward in time possible ?


Thanks, Zino.

is it ? ( without being on your last reincarnation ofcourse. )

so can anyone help me how to keep my mind off the vibrations and/or how i make them stronger ?

on the first night i tried to AP, i ended up falling asleep and had a lucid dream, but the thing that really got me was, the next day i found out i could go to AP from lucid dreaming and in this dream i remember it all, as if it really happened so if i knew about this i could of APed


this happened to anyone before ?

  is there no homepage anymore ? i want to subscribe to the newsletters 

hmm ? never been there myself, but when i can project i will try

oh and another

hey sorry for asking so many questions but im interested

are the CD's worth it ? to AP ? and are there any free downloads you know of ?


and could anyone give me a detailed explanation of how THEY astral project ?

thanks 

OKay so who is this guy ? lots of people talk about him and ive looked at some research but it doesent seem all that great...anyone used his Hemi-sync ? does it work ?

a woman called an from astral voyage said she won the lottery by seeing the numbers in the astral, could someone try this and post your opinions ?

check it out here : http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/dailylottery.html

Hey just thought id post my experiences with astral projection from day one. so lemme start

oh and before i start i just wanted to say, a few days ago i felt the same big buzz glowy feeling i did in this excerpt here, before i knew about astral projection but it felt as if i had just fell....and my head was formerly lifted up. has this ever happened to you ? when you hear about somthing and it comes up the next day ? i.e once i saw this custom made stage prop a few years ago, a few years later i saw the EXACT same thing in the EXACT same place, and i asked the people who made it and they said they only made it that week.

Day 1: id been reading more than ever today about astral projection, after a couple of ours reading all the info on http://www.astralvoyage.com/ it was time to get to bed, in the UK it was 12AM, week night so thought id go, i thought while i was in bed i might as well try it, despite it being late. So i started to concentrate on my breathing, then tried really hard on focusing about a picture or one place. I did this, and felt the small slight sound of my mind, then felt the vibrations through my body, just light ones. i concentrated harder, trying to forget about astral projection and all of a sudden this big fuzzy crackling noise went through my head ! and i felt as if i was glowing or somthing, the vibrations got stronger and then i got abit excited and it went slightly, i remembered it saying to keep on focusing so i did, and i felt as if my body had only JUST moved out of line of the physical body a tiny bit but someone walking around in my house got me out of the state, i tried a few more times, but my alarm went off, and for some reason the tiniest noise got me out of the state. so just to tell any people speculating it. IT REALLY WORKS ! im going to try again tonight a few more, times and hopefully ill get to the planes.


Questions: 

1. When you do get into the stage of moving out of your body do you try to physically move your arms or just, think about them moving ?

2. does astral projection feel like real life somtimes ?

3. could you really tell what the lottery numbers were the next day ?

4. if your projecting and someone else you know is projecting at the same time can you talk to them in the astral plane and they will remember the talk as you do ??

5. anyone else just starting out ?

P.S What do i do once i get a big fuzzing noise in my head and im vibrating ? i think that is the time im ready to come out but i dont know how...i imagined stepping out of bed but no dice..also i heard that you just move as if you normally wood, but that just awoke me from the trance and moved my physical body :S



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