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Hello
I'm posting this for a friends Gaiaspirit.
She's a warm wonderful Lady  with good knowledge in herbs, wicca etc
If you like the friendly group interaction on msn  Gaiaspirit will make you more than welcome I'm sure. []
http://groups.msn.com/SpiritualDiversity

I didn't see the original thread where it was (or wasn't) posted in the religion forums, but I recognize the methodology behind the topic.....I've seen this sort of topic in support of the united nations charters before, and they have always done nothing but generate rantings and hateful messages from all colors of the spectrum. If the moderators deleted it, they are on the ball.

Supporters of the mandates of the united nations keep trying to start these discussions to garner support for the charters they try to force on the worlds countries as a method of gaining footholds of control in those countries.  They have been doing this publicly in the 'net for as long as the internet has existed, and in the last 5 years or so have shamelessly used children to attempt to further their cause and garner support from those with weak minds but caring hearts.

This doesn't have anything to do with the Astral Pulse, astral projection, or even spiritual development or the betterment of mankind. I'd be happy to see this prosyletization deleted completely every time it comes up.

Hi Krome,
Thank you for the e-mail on this thread, and I return here only to support you at this point, just as a good friend would.

"The old Native-american man Lee told me about,  was sitting cross-legged on the bare floor of the cave.   He still held his hot cup in his hands and was smiling like the others in the cave with me.   We sat in a circle while Aesgard probed my understanding,  "Do you know what it is you see in his hands ?"   "Yes",  I replied while holding the entire concept of what I understood in my mind for him to see.   "Very good."   Then the old Indian offered the cup in my direction and I accepted it with all the reverence that I could feel.   I took the sword of fire out and placed the lovely little cup into the larger 'cup icon' I'd found earlier,  then held the sword aloft.   As I did so,  it grew full size and the cave's ceiling seemed to give way to the blade,  allowing me access to the the vastness of outside.   It felt good in my hands and I knew then that I had also held this sword in some age gone by.  

   Some of the sword's abilities came to me as memories,  so I spiralled up into the air and used the blade to cut away the strings that bound me,  like anchor chains,  to newly insignificant moments of my current life.   Once back in the cave I discovered that I had a large rope-like strand around my mid-section,  which had been there for so long that it had worn it's way into my spirit-body.   I stood up and carefully cut away at it with the sword but could not remove all of it.   Aesgard said,  "When you remember how to use it effectively,  you will be free from many things."   I then thanked the old native man for his gift and in return he gave me another entire concept,  and included the suggestion,  "Use it wisely and guard it diligently."

   Aesgard asked me if I understood the last instruction,  and honestly,  I didn't comprehend too much of it.   He then told me,  "Others will come looking for that one.   It is given to you for service and not to others for their's.   You must hide it well."   "Hide it ?   Where can I hide a sword this big?"   "That is your choice,  but choose soon."   Again I stood up to look around for a safe place but could not see anywhere suitable,   then an idea came to put it in me.   This was easier done than said,  and the sword disappeared from view.   Aesgard looked at me with a bigger than usual smile and told me I was doing very well,  only then did I realize he had included a test in the course of our short talk.   Now the urge came to go home and open my eyes,  so I gave everyone a big hug and promised to return the next night.

   During the next day,  excitement filled me with expectation for the evening's journey,  so I never considered that my expectations may have no place in the events that were to come.   When my daughter was sound asleep,  I prepared in the same manner as before only this time I travelled to another place.   The weather was dismal,  soaking rain,  mud everywhere and through the haze I saw an asian man carrying heavy bundles as he made his way along some memorized path.   Looking about me showed that I was in a village during Japan's feudal period and by the lack of spark in the villagers,  I would say it was dark times in this corner of the land.   To my left was an animist religion's shrine,  similar in style to early shinto shrines.   I heard a quiet squelch sound,  like a heavy person walking on the mud.   When I turned to get a clearer view I saw a warrior in gloss black,  full armour,  and I wondered for a split-second if it was shiny from the rain or from polishing.   Before I had the chance to finish this thought,  he drew a mighty sword and took stance in front of me,  clearly indicating what his intentions were.   I ducked left as he made his exploratory move then thrust my feet into the back of his knees,  which brought the heavy opponent crashing backwards to the ground.   How I wished for my own sword to defend myself with.   To my utmost delight,  the sword appeared,  in my hand.
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   Taking advantage of this situation I held the sword point gently at his throat,  as a hopeful bluff,  and waited for his sign of acceptance.   His arm muscles tensed at the moment he was about to let rip with his blade and I finished it by leaning heavily on the hilt of my sword.   I did not want to kill anyone and was pee'd-off because I was forced to do it.   I felt terrible as I watched his blood drain into the mire,  but my mood included awe when I saw an emaciated,  green dragon wisp out and away from the corpse.   "Wow,  I have to see Aesgard for a talk",  I thought to myself and began moving straight away.   He waited for me at the high ground and was ready to listen,  when I ended my story he asked,  "Do you see why you could not have your highest choice in that moment ?"   "No.  It's not fair."   "By your act of self defence you freed one of the dragons that was being severely abused,  is that a wrong thing?"    

   Oh what a good question !   I did something I loathed to do and found that half of the result was a positive,  so was what I did wrong ?   On the one hand it was a despicable act and on the other it produced an excellent result.   Just because I was beginning to understand what Aesgard was getting at,  didn't imply that I felt good with it.   All this was a bit much for me so I said my goodbyes and headed back to my lounge chair.   Aesgard made sure to inform me that I had used the sword effectively,  but I was under my own perception of what could be classed as a good use.   I knew that one of the sword's characteristic uses was in discerning the truth,  but was this truth only that I could not have all things the way I wanted ?   Hell,  life in the world had already taught me that,  so what else was there to see ?    A little thought entered my mind and said,  "Do you think this sword may also discern truth in action,  is it not the flaming-sword ?"   "Well yes,  it is the flaming sword,  Aesgard."   Small parts of the concept that the old man gave to me began to merge into my awareness and I realized that even though I may wield this sword now,  I am not it's master,  so to speak,  only it's handler.   The knowledge entrusted in this lesson of the sword would take more time to filter down into me."
From "Keep it Simple" bt Tayesin.

Love always.[]

Hello Eonnn
I liked your post as it has given me a goal , I'll try some of them and post it here. Have you seen the link on astral magic you might be interested in that even if your not into magic the idea of forming something in the none physical and bring it into the physical is there. It's on the main page
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Excellent Krome!

Very funny [] and a great perspective to bear in mind before getting annoyed/upset by a posting.

I like it[]

Dave

Thank you Adrain for the information about the avatars and for the time you put into the web site in general thanks  

NO, it's not your puter, well unless both of ours in going on the blink..I have been fussing about it all day.. unusually slow..I even had a "chat" with mine...ok..too much info...[]

Nay.

tried attacking or circumventing the shield? (probably yes, and if so, can you say how? it would help [].)

try pushing against it so that you're forcing yourself backwards ... [|)] i don't know what to say. sometimes while i'm meditating i'll "shrink" into my head, and i usually just sink further into my self (i mean to do it) and into a part of myself. haven't been successful in getting OUT of my body though.

oh well, hopefully someone can help you better than i am trying to [].

~kakkarot