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Okay i know there was a discussion about lucid dreams being related to astral projection a while ago but I wanted to discuss this special type of lucid dream, WILD. WILD is basically Astral Projection though right? Same technique(get to dream consciously instead of doing reality checks vs getting out consciously through rope and other methods) , very vivid, betterish recall? These seem very close to each other. How would you compare the two?(if anyone has done both) Which one do you think is a better experience?

Hello guys I have been attempting to astral project for a while. When I am ready to project(i.e relaxed my body, took deep breaths, etc) I get to a point where I get "chills". I think thats the way of describing it. Its almost like goosebumps but not really. It just happens suddenly. I am not cold or emotionally excited when this happens so its not quite like goosebumps but it feels like it but not exactly(hair not standing up).It starts from my neck and goes all over my body. I do not know if its a sign to project or something of that sort. This has not happened once but a lot of times when I get into this deep trance like state. I basically get stuck in this point. My heartrate increases, my thoughts wander, i get the feeling I am THIS close to projecting(though I have never projected), etc. What should I be doing while this happens? What would be my next few steps to project?

Thank you guys

I have been looking at some methods and I came across phasing so the problem is, I cant come to the flashy darkness part, where there is dark flashing and blobby darkness floating. I swear I did it once, it lasted 5 minutes and darkness was flashing but I was disturbed in the physical. Can you guys give me tips to get to that part again, the noticing darkness part? I cant do rundown things...
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I don't get vibrations,sleep paralysis,buzzing, etc... I know they are nothing but a signpost but as a person who doesn't get any of that, how am I supposed to know when my body is ready? How does one know ?
thanks!!

Hi. So I have been trying to get an obe for some time. I feel relaxed super relaxed. Do the deep breathing, tense muscles. Wait for like 30 minutes(sometimes even an hour) and still no sign (like vibrations or sleep paralysis). But like a week ago I felt these chills going up my neck,spine, and hands. Could that be the sign? Could it be considered as tingling sensation you guys feel? I read from somewhere and here I quote:

""Q: Once I feel the tingling sensation and/or hear the high pitched whine in my head then what do I do?
A:Once you feel that, you are separated but still inside your body. It's time to stretch yourself up and out. You can either follow your arms out, or some people like to roll out like you're rolling onto the floor, and other people seem to go out feet first. It takes a lot of inner will to stretch up out of your body. The first few times you may only get an arm out. It will feel like you're walking through mud. Just keep going.""

^Is this true? Am I ready?? One more thing I need to ask is about having that chills thing back. I have been trying but no success  .

Hi! I am new here. So..I have been trying to have an obe for quite some time. And I noticed that when I leave my lamp open I can relax much faster and not fall asleep. But its disturbing for me, the light for some reason. I go to my lamp turn it off. Then I just fall asleep . I want to practice in the dark but I keep falling asleep. Do you guys have like a method or a way for me to stay awake and focused?
Thank you