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#1
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Can't Astral Project anymore
September 01, 2017, 14:30:07


Hello Everyone

I will go by the name of Alex, for very long I wasn't able to post in the forum... wasn't lack of interest but lack of time and many things happened in my life till today, like the recent fires that affected our life's in Portugal, etc.

I had started to write a bit on the forum long ago, talk about my experiences, which the last ones were amazing! And was thankful for the insight and tips of those who talked with me.

So my problem is like this, when I started to open myself to astral projection, it started almost immediately, like I had opened something I had locked up for years (used to have paralysis and lots of vivid dreams I could control in the past), my way of doing it was always from when I went to sleep or took a nap, I tried other ways, learned to mediate etc. but never was able to do it from there...

But in the last months I barely can do it anymore... sometimes I go to sleep during the night after waking up and I am able to feel the vibrations and fall into paralysis but wake up right away... and then I just fall asleep without being able to make it happen again and make it go further...

I am not sure what happened because before this I used to project so easy... almost happened natural when I wanted, many times by accident without even thinking about it...
I will be putting the possible reasons why I can't project so easy anymore... I would like other people's opinions in what could be happening to me and how to be able to sort myself up...

- I had a time I "closed" myself up to project, really didn't want to project anymore, done this for months, many things were happening in life, to busy, and some of the projections were becoming a bit "scary" in the way I felt weird things around me even while awake, now I am not saying this in a demonic or spiritual way but maybe life stresses were getting to me so, anyways after many months without projecting really when I decided was time I could do it again... I couldn't do it anymore or nothing close to what I was at before, now I know astral projection isnt like bicycle riding but feels weird when I tried first times it went so fast and now barely anything happens...

- I became more unhealthy both physically and mentally... recently I discovered I had some hernias from accidents in neck and back(L5,L4 specially in the back) that caused me issues for months and now have to live with it... while the pain is mostly gone most of the time if careful, I don't feel so confortable physically... and the mental part would be stress related and also sadness for my health problems... also gained weight due to lack of exercise/work in the past months.

- Another stress related issue is that we were trying to make a life in Portugal... but their burecracy in our district and the last straw the fires in Portugal affected us in a way that we decided we want to leave the country and sell our place... so our "dreams" we had for there were shattered and now got more problems to deal with and lack of harmony in our lifes right now.

- I used to do exercise, walking and gym, working physically, also used to read more about astral projection and other spiritual topics that I had curiosity about, when we moved to Portugal a lot of that changed/stopped and could be another cause.

- I always feel tired... and when I go to sleep I try to be always conscious that I want to project, or to wake up and do it there and then but never works usually... always fall back to sleep without noticing... in which the part I said I feel always tired plays a big part( I said usually because once or twice it started to happen but then it stops... I try to be passive about it also but I just wake up instead).

- Maybe I lack also motivation... I don't think I do but maybe my drive before was higher than right now... due to life's problems and such.


Those were just the major things, now I been trying besides the sleep/dream method also the rope technic, roll over, target and lately also to just let myself imagine I am flying somewhere around the room, this method as proven to work in some ways like able to relax almost immediately and fall asleep fast... but usually also lose awareness fast and just go into sleeping, passive dreaming.
In all this methods I tried I am able to fully relax and lose awareness of my body but nothing more happens... just once or twice I felt something more wanting to start, like some starting vibration, but maybe due to trying to hard I can't...also thinking that I am over thinking this and should just try to do it like I usually did it before, from my dreams/sleep/naps.

I would like someone to give me their opinions from what I just explained and from their experiences, while I know maybe most of that I said is affecting my projection rate I would like insight and to hopefully with some tips to get back in track eventually, lastly it's always nice to hear from others who also practice and/or have more experience which gives a nice moral boost, most people I know in real life I can't talk about this, and while I have full support of let's say my girlfriend she doesn't practice due to lack of interest so she can't help me much here...

I thank everyone in advance for your insights and sorry for the long text and also sorry if posted this in wrong section wasnt sure which one to put it on...

Take care everyone and speak to you soon.
#2
Hello all again, I decided to make a new post today since the other one is sorta old by now and the topic of it its different from today's so I thought was better to write it in a new post, this night something weird happened 2 times to me and I would like opinion from people to help me analyze my experience so I know if it was me learning better how to project or so, I have a feeling it was a projection but I will explain now what happened.
First time was during the night, I was sleeping and I entered that state I usually entered before with weird noises in my head, maybe not as heavy or loud as my first experiences to try to project when I was in paralysis but it was still some of it, so anyways I "awaken" in that state turned to the side I was sleeping and I dicide I want to move and try to see a bit around me, I feel very heavy and slughish but I tell myself this wont stop me so I slowly lift myself up  as like when you do push ups but with the knees on the floor and I slowly turn to my girlfriends side to watch her, she was sleeping and I was able to touch the blanket and such but not able to really interact or call my girlfriend, then I woke up, okai now its the part of why I was questioning if it was a projection or not, first thing I noticed is the pillow I was sleeping with my head on in this state/projection was blue dark( thats the pillow cover that I sometimes use but it went for washing a few days ago) and in reality its white now, and in the projection/dream my girlfriend was turned to my side but in reality she was turned up almost to the other side.
Now for the second experience I had in the morning after my girlfriend had left the bed to go walk the dogs, I stayed a bit longer in bed and without realizing I fell asleep instead of just staying a few more minutes in bed lol... anyways what happened was this, I thought I was awake and moving towards the bed, I could hear some noises outside the room like the pets having fun( have 3 dogs) I was moving towards the door to open and say good morning  and give a kiss to my girlfriend( this is something that happens often in real too) and then suddenly before getting to the door I get pushed/teleported back to the bed and I start to feel the usual feelings I feel in sleep paralysis but again not as intense and I used to feel.
I hear weird noises around me, I feel some weird feelings like things touching me around me like my butt area and similar and stuff, and the noises start to get louder a bit and some vibrations but I dicide to ignore everything this time and just focus on my intention, I believe I can get out of bed this time that I am getting better at this, so I was able to slowly get out of my body, think it was like that at least but I didnt look back to check if there was a body, the weird thing at start though was this, I was like in my vision bringing fragments of the blanket with me, I tend to have always the blanket on top of me even in my head too sometimes so was like when I got out of bed I brought parts of the blanket with me for a while and I could feel it wrapped around me for like 5 to 10 seconds before the feeling dissipated, I moved closer to the door of the bed room, and what I did was decide to trespass the door since it was closed like usually( girlfriend closes the door so the pets wont disturb me if I am still resting) I was still moving slow but a bit faster than before, and then I put my hand towards the door and the most amazing thing happens for me, I start to trespass the door slowly, I felt a bit of resistance but not to much, on the other side I didnt see the pets but I could see my girlfriend on the computer drinking her coffee and my vision got all fine maybe after I passed the door.
I tried to call my girlfriend  and such but she wouldn't hear me, I was able to pick her glass and started to knock it on the table to make her notice me but nothing, she just goes back to her stuff, then she decided to go downstairs for some reason , for a moment I thought she noticed me while I continued knocking on the table but no, she went downstairs and went inside the living room and I followed, I noticed the living room the sofas were missing, it was sorta empty a bit, to be honest now maybe more parts of the house felt emptier but I didn't pay attention to everything... so I noticed I couldn't call her so instead I called my spirit guide and then I started to feel a presence close by, I saw some strong light coming from upstairs but was moving slowly to me it seemed, so instead of making it come all the way to me I tried to meet with it too but before I could climb the stairs I then woke up and I then just decided to get out of bed and do my stuff and now I find myself writing all this while its still more vivid in my mind.
So my question is after explaining my experiences is if you think I was able to project or just a dream? I would think it is a projection since I was able to project my intentions, I knew I was in bed in reality and I was able to maintain myself focused all the time without losing sight of myself to a dream or so but I would like to hear opinions from others with more experience.
#3
Hello everyone, first I would like to say I am new here and that I am happy to be here, I been trying to find a forum before to share my experiences and also read about other peoples experiences and techniques, and so now I am here with you all :)
I am writing to you all now to get some insight and advice to my "problem"( which isn't really a problem would call it a block/impasse lol...), for me to explain what is my issue I will start try to tell accurately about my past experiences with OBE.
I think it all started when I was already 3 or 4 years old, I remember well my past from young age, I dont know to say if its because of who I am or due to having lost my father when I was close to 7 years old from heart attack... either way that isnt important whats important is what I think that happened when I was maybe around 4 or 5, its not easy to know since I was so young and I didn't register things chronologically I can only say from what I sorta remember from the first day I remember of having awareness( which I do) to the day I first think this happened, since the day of awareness of myself that I tell you about I remember having dreams and nightmares, often I had nightmares and some very weird ones too sometimes but can only suppose was thanks to my sister watching things on TV or so I wasn't supposed to watch yet lol. Either way I always remembered my dreams well and til this day I do remember dreams and a lot of nightmares I had since little...but there was one dream I had that didn't feel like a dream... I was around 4 or 5 when this happened, I used to go to my parents bedroom sometimes to tend to sleep between them since I was afraid of the dark, but this night it felt different, I have a feeling it wasn't just a dream but can never confirm for sure since I was so young, til nowadays I only considered it a very vivid dream though things always felt weird about it.
I was going to my parents bedroom, it was dark but somehow I could see very well in the darkness, it was still scary and I was specially scared of the basement door installed on the floor of the room my parents had there, I was going to their bedroom with intentions of going to their bed, but somehow I think I was pushed instead close to the basement door, I thought I was screwed for obvious dream like reasons but then a very shinny light showed up from behind me if I remember right... it came towards me and stayed floating in front of me and the door and told me it was dangerous to go there that I could get hurt, so even thought it was like a light ball flying on the room it somehow helped me stand and carried me back to the bed where my parents were sleeping, I remember feeling very good, safe and happy while I allowed this light to help me and next thing I just remember waking up in the morning in my parents bed alone, before I forget have to say I always had lots of episodes of sleep walking since I was little til I was around 12 or so, then it stopped.
I didn't had anything like this happening to me again for long, at least I don't remember, I had many more dreams I would remember, many I would even take control and do what I want and such, anyways later when I was maybe 10 years old the husband of my oldest sister( got 3 older sisters) died of leukemia, and some days after that I had my first episode of sleep paralysis, I was in my bed without being able to move for how much strength I would do... and then I see the head of my sister dead husband rising up from the side of the bed... I completely freaked out and I somehow was able to wake up... ever since then I started to sleep with my belly down since I was afraid it would happen again... I wasn't sure if would help but I was just not wanting to have more nightmares since then I considered that a nightmare just much later when I was about 20s or more I started to understand more about OBE and sleep paralysis since I was always curious about the occult and stuff too just scared about it also at the time... my mother was always against this things also so it sorta stuck to me for a while too.
I remember sometimes later when I would take a nap in bed or sofa, I was maybe around 15s or 16s, if I would be lying with my belly up in bed I often had a sleep paralizys episode... it was very frightening for me... not being able to move and have a sence of something being in the room out to get me or so... sometimes I even felt stuff touching me on the sides and tickling me or so... I would eventually force myself to wake up with an idea of storing energy inside me and wait for the right moment and then push myself all at once, usually it worked most of the time though sometimes I felt so tired I couldnt do it or so... this also happened sometimes while I was sleeping in the morning, one time I remember my mother going inside my room to fix clothes she had washed and such, and I was able to see what she was doing and such but I couldn't move from bed, tried to call her but didnt work and I realized my eyes were actually closed but I could see very well and also had some sence of astral eyes since I could close and open them too, I asked later my mother if she had been in my room and if she had done this and that, ( like put socks and underwear in the closet next to me and clothes in the wardrobe) she wasn't sure but she said it might be possible and I never thought much about the matter after that...
A few more episodes happened til I was maybe 24 or 25, it was always the same sleep paralysis thing, I sorta considered only a normal occurrence explained by science that it was a physical thing and so on, thought deep down I always felt it could be something more... but either way I had realized this only happened to me when I was lying up in bed so I stopped doing that, and so I don't think it happened to me anymore til just some months from now, and it just started to happen because I decided I wanted to.
I was one day thinking about life while working outside on our farm, and feeling something about me was missing, I have a good life nowadays and happy too, I have a great girlfriend whom we together for 2 years and some months now, our pets, job department maybe the only thing that lead to depression for quite a while since every plan we made went bad thought things are looking to be going in the right direction now :) either way it was on this day I was thinking about life that something struck me... like my mind was clearing up and one of the things that was missing in my life and accept about myself was this OBE experiences I had and how I wanted to learn more about it... so I started reading about it, even got some books and read many peoples stories online too and this haves lead me to more experiences and even if now I am still afraid of it a bit I think I have progressed a bit though I feel I cant leave my body yet but I am not rushed about it either...I believe it will happen eventually but either way I wanted to share my last experiences I had to hope for some insight and advice too.
I tried to meditate on the sofa, though it never worked there... in the bed the same thought I was able to feel like some energy surging from inside me or so in my legs and belly/chest areas but I think due to feeling happy for the progress I messed it all up and dissapeared lol... also I am a person who loses focus easy.. I get side tracked by other thoughts very easy, is it fantasies or whatever else... so I have issues to remain focused for long in a single topic or idea... so what I tried after was what I had already some experience with, sleeping in bed with belly up, it worked on the first day in the morning, I had a sleep paralysis episode, I was paralyzed in bed but it was scary because I felt I had something constantly touching me between my legs and butt area, mostly those areas, I tried to ignore it and not care about it but the feeling never went away, I eventually woke up and I tried to go back to it after since I wasn't going to let fear sway me but well nothing happened more in that morning, I realized though after my underwear was a bit tight so maybe that was the feeling I was having in the sleep paralysis since I know our senses become much sharper in that state...
Second experience I want to report is something more weird that happened, I had read about astral winds but what happened to me was nothing like I had read so its impossible for me to had read about it and had made it up in my mind... I woke up in the morning, think was around 6, and then I focused myself to try to do OBE, I laid down to the side this time instead but I was able to go into sleep paralysis right away still, only that I was only half paralyzed, I could move my arms very slowly with some effort, it was like in a way I felt I was in slow motion... but the other thing I felt was like I had a giant hurricane noise in my left ear, I was scared about it but also very curious... so I tried to put my left hand on top of my ear, but I couldn't since some strong magnetic pull was pulling my hand away from it, it felt like a very strong wind was coming out of my ear... then I woke up and I told the experience to my girlfriend when she woke up, she was happy for me, few days later same thing happened but this time was a bit different, this time I didn't try to move my arms, I tried to relax and just accept/let it all in and go with the flow but trying to stay on the state without starting to dream... that is when the weirdest thing happened, I had heard about vibrations but didnt knew how it felt like... that was when I felt it for the first time... I felt like my whole being was vibrating very strongly... somehow it felt good though it was also a bit scary at first, also the hurricane noise in my left ear again became much sharper and stronger, like a bomb about to explode, I also heard some crackling noise I think, but I think due to me getting happy about it or losing focus about my state of mind it all stopped and came back to the start... only thing that remained was the stronger hurricane noise on my left ear like it was coming from inside my ear, I eventually woke up after that nothing else happened...
Some days later I had another experience but this time I was with my belly down... I never thought I could enter sleep paralysis on this state but I guess maybe since I started getting more used to it it happened this way... but this one was more frightening... I felt I had weird stuff, like ghostly presences or whatever touching me on my butt and between my legs, was really not nice feeling... I tried to concentrate and ask for my guardian to come help me which never did... and this things on top of my butt seemed to be getting more attached to me... so instead well maybe was stupid but I tried to get ticked and scream... at first didnt work I couldn't make a noise but I eventually got so frustrated that I was finally able to scream( or so I think don't think I heard noise though but I was able to like pull air out of my lungs in that state) and then I heard weirdest thing before I woke up, whatever was attached to me got upset and started to scream too, it was like a scary little girl voices screaming and upset , maybe upset I was getting off of them or something I don't know... it could have been all my imagination since I know on this state the mind plays a lot of tricks but either way I am open minded to what people could tell me about it, I had read some books about the astral projection topics, like Astral Projection Guidebook by Erin Palvina, Astral Dynamics and The Phase, dunno if any of this references might have affected my mind also but they offered some good information for me...
I forgot to mention that one of my recent sleep paralysis episodes I was able to ask for my guide to help me and the light in the room became much brighter but I wasn't able to see anything since I was in a very weird position with very little sight of the room... one of the reasons I am trying to also learn astral projection is to learn more about myself and also meet this light that once helped me when I was small, but I seem to be failing to be able to get out of the body, I might be doing it all the wrong way... I had an idea that if I would be just sorta passive about it but with the intention of going out it would eventually happen, that I would  feel myself going out, I am for sure doing something wrong or with the wrong state of mind... I also would like to learn to meditate better and try to reach the state from there without needing to go to sleep first... I do the deep breaths from the nose and try to relax my body, I eventually stop feeling my body and feel something more but I think maybe due to becoming aware of this I lose the process on the way... as for my OBE experience I would like some help insight for what to do to be able to eventually get out of my body and get to live the experience that many report to have here.
First I want to say sorry about the very long text, I tried to make it smaller and just put what I thought was important to be known about my story of the experiences so someone with more experience than me could give an opinion/advice about everything I just wrote...
Thanks a lot in advance and thank you to the Admin who allowed me to join this great community and I hope to someday be of help too with my own experiences in future.