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I've been using the phasing method to either project or lucid dream. I'm still
deciding if I'm APing. I do notice this, it's a lot less clear and since I think
I'm lucid dreaming,  I don't ask for clearity and I also notice it doesn't last
as long. My gut tells me I've been APing apposed to lucid dreaming. I will say
this though, of all my attemps at phasing, which is around 7 times, it didn't work two.

I need to get them cleaner/clearer and to last longer and I'll be golden!!!!

This is my new song and my best I must say. All my songs are about
spiritual realms, OBE's, Alien abduction and so on.

I've had about 57 lucid dreams and lately I've been getting
pretty good at phasing. Im getting some good feed back
on this song, so please have a listen. The song will play automatically
when you go to my yotube channel. It's more about alien abduction
than sleep paralysis, but some say alien abduction is sleep paralysis,
I don't believe that.
http://www.youtube.com/user/sublimy99?feature=mhum

I don't think I've posted about this yet, If I did, my apologies!

I had a dream in which I was thinking about AT/AP and then I realized
I was dreaming,  I focused intently on the scenery and went into a
void, not a black void, as I was spinning I thought to go to my sons
room (he doesn't live with me) I told him I would make an attepmt
to go to his room if I had an OBE. I ended up in his room but it wasn't
very clear, so I said "clarity now" but it didn't get much clearer. I saw my
son on his bed and I tried to wake him and take the covers off to wake him.
Nothing happened. I then decided to leave. BTW, I was with the entity that
I often speak of. It jumped in my arms like a monkey, right before I entered my
sons room, I then dropped it. I left through the ceiling and out the roof and as
I was going through the rafters the entity said "yep" kind of loud in my ear.
I have no idea why.
I ended up back in bed and I did not snap back.

I called my son the next day and said "did you have a red shirt on the other night?"
He said " I think so" I told him about a possible projection. He later said he wasn't
sure about the shirt.

Was it all a lucid dream? Did I have my first projection. Why so dark? My lucid dreams
are very vivid.

I have posted about an entity that has been attached to me for 3 years now.
I have posted about having intense vibrations and now I've learned I may
have been in the 3d black void and I've been there a few times.
I've also posted about my lucid dreams. I feel like I'm so, so close to where I
want to be. I much rather jump from 3d void to focus 3, as Frank Keeple claims.

The other night I was listening to the iso-tones I down loaded , the astral projection.
I went to sleep and woke to a roaring in my ear. I thought it was the entity, but soon learned
it was the vibrations and roaring, however, I still thought the entity was involved. I was also
having sleep paralysis, something I have not experienced in all of this.

So, I'm kind of curious, will I skip grades and go to focus three or will I have the vibrations, lift
out and experience focus 1 or will I always just be teased and remain with lucid dreams only?

Don't get me wrong, I greatly appreciate my lucid dreams. Even though Frank says it's a waste
of time, I would like to experience RTZ/focus 1. I much rather jump to focus 3, that sounds awesome.

Ok, that's all, tell me what you think.

I have been trying to AP for several years now and I've posted here
many times. My lucid dream count has increased tremendously, but
still no AP. I have had the vibrations several times now and in every
case I end up spinning, while in a  vibrational state. I remain calm and I
still always just ended up in my bed. This morning I was dreaming that
I was on a couch sleeping and decided to test if I was dreaming by
attempting to roll out of my body. Instead of rolling out and hitting
the floor, I just kept rolling, so I tried another technique and I
ended up in the same spinning dark vortex that I always end up in.

I remained calm while spinning and concentrated on floating. I got
the sensation of floating, but everything remained dark. I tried to
shoot towards my wall, I moved, but it still remained dark.

Can anyone get me past this stage?

As I've said before in on this board. I've been attempting OBE's through lucid dreams.
I usually get the vibrations but don't exit and end up waking up.

This morning I became lucid, did the flying thing and decided to try it again.
So in the lucid dream I just stand still no emotion no thought and everything
begins to melt away. I look at my hands and the y are melting away, which is good,
because I know I'm heading for a possible AP. So I'm floating and spinning, rather slow.
I'm calm as can be, not focusing on me or my body just waiting open to just enter
into an AP. I think I should be concentrating on a location, which I will do next time.

Here's the thing. I did not have the vibrations or the buzzing, but I did hear voices,
the voices were around me, but then it turned into a radio station(I did not have a radio near by)
then I woke up. So, was I closer, further, or the same as when I have the vibrations. I've heard about the voices.
I don't know if the voices come right before exiting, after? This is the first time.

I had to post this here, since it is a song about OBE's

The lyrics are kind of full with cliches' but I think it came out ok!


"Oh be easy"   http://www.soundclick.com/paulferland

Ok, in a dream, on the phone. I become lucid and tell the girl on the phone that
I think I'm dreaming this call. As soon as I say that the phone goes dead and I'm
still not sure if I'm dreaming I jump up and don't remain up, that's my dream test.
I stretch my neck up and my head goes into the ceiling...mmm guess I am dreaming.
I look around the room and start to think, should I attempt an OBE or go with the
lucidity. I go through the door and I'm outside and I'm thinking I can do anything,
what freedom, but nothing really becomes of the scenery, so I stop my thoughts
and stay still and here comes the vibrations. I remain calm and they become more
intense. I say "I'm out of body now" and I feel like I roll out. I feel like I just lift up
out of bed, but it seems too real and I rush my head back thinking I just got up
for real. I'm still feeling the vibrations, but then I wake up. Now I'm thinking that
was my astral torso that lifted and not my real body, as I thought. This is my
fifth time having vibrations, 3 for 3 with lucid dreams and maybe a half exit with
a twist..lol

I have lucid dreams quite often, but never was able to AP.

I've heard that there is a way to go from lucid dream to AP
The method that was most common was to fold my arms
(in the lucid dream) and fall back. I have tried that several times.
I always continue to fall for awhile, land, and then I'm still in a lucid dream.
I question myself if I am in a lucid dream or this is now an AP, I always feel
it is not AP and just a continuation of the lucid dream.

Does anybody know any other techniques I could try. If I ever do have an OOBE,
It will probably be through a lucid dream.

I just created a spiritual ambient japanese song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrnPMA8s1vk

tell me if it has potential to be an OBE song.
or what would make it one. I have no binaral mics, so that's out.
You ned headphnes, or at least you should. I was getting slight vibrations.
That, or I'm too enthusiastic over my own song..ha!

I'm sure many peope here are having real OBE's. I suspect many are not.
It seems many of the descriptions here sound like my lucid dreams, yet,
they are being called astral travel.

I think they should be called on this by the people who actually leave their bodies.
Not to be mean or point fingers, just so everyone that comes here is straight with
which is which. I have heard that we leave our bodies when we dream, and I could
swear I was not in my body during a few lucid dreams, but I still won't call it
AP, just to be fair to myself and other's that come here.

There is one event that happened that I could have miss judged, but I
still call a lucid dream,again, just to be fair in my terminology. One time I got up
from a dream, I laid my head back down and fell through the bed. When I landed
there were shadows moving around me and one actual shadow person (which I've seen upclose and fully awake)
I was not scared but woke up jut the same. There were no vibrations. It still seemed dream like, though I was conscious.
What would you define it as? As of now, I'm still calling it a lucid dream.

Ok, I've posted here before about having my first vibrations. I have not had them since.
I figured my best ways to have an obe, is to do it through a lucid dream, since I have
them on a regular basis. Sometimes I use lucid dream pills (galantamine and choline bitartrate)
So  set the alarm for 2:30, woke up and took the lucid dream pills. I had a dream I was
explaining to someone how I can see so vividly. This was the galantamine kicking in.
When I get this very clear vision in my dreams, it indicates that I'm dreaming, a trigger induced
by the pills. It didn't work. I'm wondering ( in the dream) why it didn't work ( thinking I was awake)
I looked at my hands and said to my self "maybe you are still dreaming". So I did my usual test,
which is to jump off the ground an if I remain in the air and float up, I know I'm dreaming. So now I know
I'm dreaming. What to do ? I'm board with the usual, flying, going through walls. I'm floating in the air
deciding what to do. I decide to call on a spirit guide to take me out of body to AP. I immediately get
this feeling something or someone takes me by two points at my shoulders. I think, oh good, here we go.
But, I go no where, I'm just suspended by this outside force.Then I see a shadow of scissors about
to cut strings, that I guess are now keeing me suspended (remember, I'm lucid this wholetime)
I laugh to self and think , why would my spirit guide cut me loose? I then realize, it wasnt my spirit guide,but an
entity that has attached it'self to me for the last two years. Can't my spirit guides get past this thing. Why does it get to do that when I have called on a spirit guide? I've called on arch angel Michael to get rid of this thing, to no avail, not to mention a bunch of other things.
I'm baffled!!

I don't get it, it's 20 min. after and obe "attempt" and my legs are buzzing like
there is a bee hive down there. Yet,I didn't exit.

Why are my legs still buzzing? and why didn't  I come to the point
of exiting? I'm baffled...

Now I can say with certainty that I have felt the vibrations and the buzzing noise.

It happened about a half hour ago. It's 5:57 in the am. I was dreaming after I had
awakened at 4 o'clock. I took some galatamine to help me lucid dream. I was having trouble
getting back to bed and fell into a dream. I dreamed I was with my ex wife and  thought she was
about to approach me. I then thought she started to slap me and it  got harder and I became
semi- conscious and realized it wasn't slapping, it was vibrations. Wow, were they intense.
I thought I was prepared for them, I was not. I had the buzzing noise also.
I tried to wait it out, but I kind of chickened out. Although I was angry at myself,
I was also excited that I had the vibrations for the first time.

I have the feeling I'll be feeling them again very soon.
That is all. I just thought I would share.

Ok, so I read some advice on here and the best advice so far is:
Relax. I was not spending enough time on relaxing and so I was not
getting paralyzed, just numb.

I'm still not sure about the vibrations. I don't feel electricity like feelings.
I do feel gyration feelings and have felt strong tingling. I have felt falling.
I even heard the click near my head, about a foot away.

I have not heard voices, as of yet, and I have not seen through my eyes
and I have not exited. I can feel I'm SO close.

I'm almost positive I've felt the vibrations, but not 100% sure.

Is there a strong gyrating feeling that goes with the vibrations
I get them everytime now and they feel weird and good.
Could be something else though. I get them when I'm
deep into the process. I go pretty deep too.

I've been using a AP Inducer youtube vid, it's just AP inducing sounds.
It is working well and I keep going deeper and deeper into a trance.

I know most of the signs of getting near the point of an exit.
There is one I haven't heard of. My body feels like it's moving
like washing machine. Not like sitting on, I mean it feels like
swishing back and forth, I feel dizzyness with it and it is after
I'm deep into the trance. It feels like my body and my head
moving back and forth my feet to the left, my head to the right
and then visa versa , pretty quick, but not too quick. It feels like
it's my astral body that is moving and then it stops and I feel like
I may have blown my exit point because it stopped.

Is this common? Is this a normal feeliing close to exit? Or am I
just getting dizzy? My body is numb but not paraylized. I'm
deep in a zone and very very relaxed, but I still don't exit.

Am I getting close or just fooling myself ?

I'm a musician, singer song writer. I was wondering if I could make
my own astral travel mp3's and what would it require? I heard
that it is best to put different frequency's in each ear. I was
wondering what would be the best frequency's and could I add
subliminal messages to aid in the astral seperation? Any advice
or help would be great. I use Cakewalk SHS6 and I have a keyrig
49(midi keyboard) and can access most sounds, including strings.

Thanks