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Well, this morning after I went back to sleep (had a busy day yesterday and woke up very tired), I remember something odd.   I did however attain lucidity very quickly, and the scenery went white and I woke up.  Something didn't quite seem right, but when I concentrated, I felt this weird wavering feeling, and somehow it allowed me to roll over without really "rolling over".  I did it twice, but somehow afer the second attempt, it faded back into a dream where if I were to concentrate on the wavering thing again, it turned an old analog console tv on (but not off) which was weird.

Could that have been an obe?  When I opened my eyes it seemd a little weird, and I couldn't move my body when I was "rolled over".   Very very weird.

I've been interested in OBE and AP for about 4-5 years now, and I STILL haven't done it yet.  The farthest I've gone is the occasional conscious dreams.  I've tried the tecniques I find, but it's super hard.  Especially on the nights where my brain is a complete ADD case (which I'm borderline of).  

Any tips on doing this with a racing surface mind?  It gets harder as I drift deeper into trance, and the thoughts pour in with quite the pressue, and it seems like I can't silence it.

One quick question (God I haven't posted on this board in a while!)

I had a dream the other night that had the odd similarity to the old show "Early Edition" on CBS, however, it wasn't a newspaper, it was an OLED type display that constantly flashed articles of events that haven't happened yet.  I didn't get a hard download of what the headlines were, but it sure was wierd.  I have been having a lot of odd dreams lately, some of which I'd like to gain lucidity in, but that's another story

Chris

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There's always a chance that there could be some bugs in the server for a short moment of time.  Adrian most likely knows about whatever happened and has taken care of it.

Meanwhile, I moved this topic into Forum Bugs Reports and Questions.  This is the place dedicated to questions about how the forums function incorrectly on your computer.

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The USA won't even switch to the metric system and you expect it to change calendars? lol []

Michael, Gabriel, Rafael, Uriel.  They would be the four archangels.  Don't ask me for any more info, cus I don't have any more

I know a few awesome songs that deals with looking at the sun.  Here they are:



Stare at the sun
by Thrice

i sit here clutching useless lists
and keys for doors that don't exist
i crack my teeth on pearls
i tear into the history
just show me what it means to me in this world

'cause i am due for a miracle
i'm waiting for a sign
i'll stare straight into the sun
and i won't close my eyes
'til i understand or go blind

i see the parts but not the whole
i study saints and scholars both
no perfect plan unfurls
do i trust my heart or just my mind
why is truth so hard to find in this world
yeah in this world

'cause i am due for a miracle
i'm waiting for a sign
i'll stare straight into the sun
and i won't close my eyes
'til i understand or go blind

i know that there's a point I've missed
a shrine or stone i haven't kissed
a scar that never graced my wrist
a mirror that hasn't met my fist
but i can't help feeling like i'm

due for a miracle
i'm waiting for a sign
i'll stare straight into the sun
and i won't close my eyes





Stare at the sun
by MDFMK


The eagle that feeds you
Ties you up and suffocates you

Favorite little monkey
Drags you down and complicates you

Love and hate combination
Won't survive the seperation

Soul and body co-exist
Face the antogonist

At the right place
At the right time
How does it feel?

Don't take this the wrong way
Don't hold it up discreetly
Ya, more than you could ask for
But none of what you need

So don't take this the wrong way
But nothing is for free
It's only an illusion
Imposibility

Don't take this the wrong way
When you stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun

The dislocation
Confusion
Total lack of destination
Nothing left to ask for
Greed exceeds on moderation
Mind over matter
Seeing ladies
Getting fatter
Lock the bunker
Kill the light
Reality is kept outside

When the right price
Makes the right deal
You don't disagree

Down the wrong way
Off a one-way
Dead-end street

Don't take this the wrong way
Don't hold it up discreetly
Ya, more than you could ask for
But none of what you need

So don't take this the wrong way
But nothing is for free
It's only an illusion
Imposibility

Don't take this the wrong way
When you stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun
What do you see?

A million excuses
To avoid compatibility

Normal disposition
Wrapped up in animosity

Suffer the dilema
Choose it voluntarily

Stare at the sun
What do you see?

Don't take this the wrong way
Don't hold it up discreetly
Ya, more than you could ask for
But none of what you need

So don't take this the wrong way
But nothing is for free
It's only an illusion
Imposibility

Don't take this the wrong way
When you stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun
What do you see?
Stare at the sun


OBLIVION
by 30 seconds to mars

The enemy arrives
Escape into the night
Everybody run now
Everybody run now
Break into another time
This enemy alive
Divinity defines
Everybody run now
Everybody run now
Everybody run now
Everybody run

Under the burning sun
I take a look around
Imagine if this all came down
I'm waiting for the day to come

Come with us to the ride
Join in the fight
Everybody run now
Everybody run now
Break into another time
Unity divides
Division will unite
Everybody run now
Everybody run now
Everybody run now
Everybody run

Under the burning sun
I take a look around
Imagine if this all came down
I'm waiting for the day to come

Under the burning sun
I take a look around
Imagine if this all came down
America it's all so beautiful
Until it comes away

Under the burning sun I take a look around
Imagine if this all came down
Under the burning sun I take a look around
Imagine if this all came down
Under the burning sun I take a look around
Imagine if this all came




IF these aren't the ones you were looking for, i would recommend that you listen to them anyways.  They are great.

It could have been an OBE, a RTZ OBE but I do not think it was one.

When you OBE, some things might change compared to the physical world.

Example: Your PC in your room is black. When you OBE it may appear to be gray.

Chris-

Telepathy takes A LOT of practice if you can not naturally do it (that is if you forgot )  However, if you are willing to learn, and take time to continue to grow, i May have a few sight that you might see as interesting.  First off let me explain a little about it.

-It is the ability to send and receive information via words, thoughts, and sometimes voices.

-It is the easiest way to talk to someone!  Like AIM, you can instantly send your friends a message, if they are listening (that is if they are open-minded enough to try it.

-It takes a lot of practice, something I had no time for, but researched extensively.

Here are some sites to visit!

http://www.newagedirectory.com/esp/instruction.htm

This is the best and most informational I can find

-Tenacious[]  Good luck!!!!

I've had an experience like this, but not manipulating the clouds as such, but the wind. For some reason I've always had some level of connection with the wind. Can't explain it any further than this though.

James.