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I ask that this be made a stick somewhere and when ever someon asks what does this or that mean or stand for just send them to that sticky. And add if necessary. Thanks.

AP - Astral Projection

ISP - Isolated Sleep Paralysis (not in conjunction with other symptoms of narcolepsy)

LD - Lucid Dream

NDE - Near Death Experience (usually refers to being near death and out of your physical body.)

NP - Non Physical

NPR - Non Physical Realms/Reality

NPMR - Non Physical Matter Reality

OBE or OOBE - Out of Body Experience

PMR - Physical Matter Reality

RL - Real life

RTZ - Real Time Zone

SP - Sleep Paralysis (see ISP)

RV - Remote Viewing

WILD - Wake Initiated Lucid Dream

WR - Wider Reality

Everyone add your own relevant abbreviations.

Keywords: Stands for means mean stand for what does

BTW you guys should make a little sticky about what things might stand for. I don't know how many things are abbreviated here but.

I know you guys probably don't like that question. And I understand the reasons why you would not like it. But ultimately things need to be categorized. So who would you vote the best astral projector? I don't know everyone were so I don't want to make a poll.

We have things like recall, powers, how deep/high/heavenly have you been in the spirit world, experience level, retrieval experience, astral knowledge, and more. So who would you vote for?

Thanks.

Warning these are very advanced concepts and are not for newbies.

I am posing this here in order to get a little feedback. Since I still think a lot about why is it that APers have a hard time believing stories like Howards. The only things I want to address here is can a terrible death or a death that ripens our karma open up lower realms when we enter the afterlife? Certainly our very spirits are connected to our bodies. Eg molecules dramatically changing consciousness.

OK so recently I saw this interview and when I started talking to a friend I ended up getting into all kinds of stuff about opening up hells at the end of life. If any of you astral projectors have not heard of Howard Storms experience you should seriously check it out. I know Jesus is in it but that does not matter to me. I am not a christian, but am a universalist, I am not trying to convert anyone. I do strongly believe in AP in fact I have APed before when I was sick. So please check out Howards interview. He was a successful professor, artist, and stanch atheist, until he died.

Howard Storm - Near-Death Experience & Awakening (The Moore Show)
http://youtu.be/yKemocF4PNE

[Edit: BTW I slightly modifed a few parts here.]

So these are some of the things I said and I want your opinion.

Me: "Let me say that I think it might be possible that when Howard died in the hospital, it was very very painful since stomach acid went into his body. So that acid would have done some damage to his spirit perhaps, and if it did, it would have ripened some karmic fruit. Meditators talk about ripening the friut of your karma, by fasting for instance. Psychedelics can ripen certain karmic energies. Earth is a good place to ripen your karmic friut since it's stable more here in the physical. But the astral IMO is not a good place to do that, especially if your in the lower reals, since you are not as well protected IMO. Here we have a lot of protections for someone like Howard. Except the if they keep him suffering for years at the end of life. So my thought is that he might have opened up the doors for the evil beings since he ripened some really bad karma. Can't say that for sure. But that's a real possibility. So for instance the way Howard described his NDE, he really really seemed like he was in the astral, more specially the real time zone when he first exited his body. And no astral projectors have ever talked about something like that. Though if they got too scarred they would instantly go back to their body. So we must be very careful at the time of death IMO. And if possible at the time of birth. They are some of the most delicate times for our spirits IMO. I've read about karmic birth trauma. Well IMO we can get karmic death trauma too. This is why we need to stop torturing people at the end of life, by needlessly keeping them alive. I have little doubt that many of those that suffer at the end of life, and open a hell realm realms on earth at the end life at death have a high risk of carrying that over into the afterlife. This is why Buddhists meditate at the time of death. In fact they practice death meditation in order to help them get a better birth at death. Or IMO go to a higher realm at death."

Friend: "It still doesn't really make sense that you could live your whole life building up good karma and if you die in a bad way then you may put yourself in a bad place without even knowing it. I know that is hypothetical but still possible in what your describing. Howard even said himself that where he was he would never wish upon anyone. So it seems that the only people who will have real control are people who can work out their karma before or right after they die. Basically that leaves the meditation religions and half of them don't even believe in the afterlife. I know we talked about this before but I'm still having trouble with this topic."

Me: "I think it's quite possible that when I die I will go directly into another body, IDK. And I think the most likely thing is that both are true. Both astral projection and reincarnation are possibilities at the end of life. I already know that AP true, but reincarnation is still a bit iffy. Though I know many traditional meditators believe that we reincarnate directly after we die. What if an OBE is really just another form of reincarnation? That is what I seem to remember the guys at astral pulse saying. I mean we have had materializations of people. Jesus being one of them. We have all heard of other materializations happening. Humans are obviously not advanced enough for it, so we have to rely on a fetus to come back to the physical and evolve. We can get liberated into the astral at death, or if we are stuck to our bodies, and certain biochemical processes happen. and our spirits are in the right condition, that might be the perfect condition that would allow us to directly go into another reincarnation. I am thinking it would be similar to remote viewing. In that your consciousness can leave it's body without astral projecting. It would have to be a very primitive form of remote viewing. So Oh my gosh. What if someone remote viewed into a fetus and stayed there. LOL My mind is crazy. But that allows be to think dynamically in overarching ideas. This is something I have not talked about much. Probably because NDE's and AP get the most attention in the west afterlife. I know I saw Eben talk with the Dali Lama, and others about his experience. Funny seeing Eben dressed up like he had a costume on, talking about his NDE to some Buddhists.   I remember talking about AP on a real formal Buddhist forum and they seemed like they didn't know what I was talking about. It's like they stay in the box, and don't know that one doesn't have to do Buddhist practices to AP.​ Or would be very skeptical."

Me: "Also another piece of anecdotal evidence about opening hell at the end of life is that APers hardly never go to hell realms, supposedly because they are very healthy. So why is it that in NDE's people go to hell more often? Simple, I already answered it. NDEers were likely sick, and got compromised bodies, and spirits, and thus making them vulnerable to opening hells. This is not rocket science, but common sense IMO. This is all coming together now. I also thought of something else to support this but I forgot it. If your feelings manifest in the afterlife then it's a no brainer that you could easily be vulnerable to hellish experiences. Since emotions and feelings definitely can have a directly effect on your experience in the astral. Not always, but if you open up a certain realms around death, then yes. I've been their I've lived it. Only I didn't leave my body. Well there was one time while I was schizophrenic I definitely felt like I did, leave my body. But I didn't fully leave my body though like Howard did. I swear it felt like I left and it felt like I even entered my body when it was done. It was a hellish experience that was of low consciousness. If you want I will tell you more. The only thing that keeps us from going crazy at hospitals and hospice centers is all the medication were givin. But IMO most of the time it's not enough to keep your dignity. At least a long time ago when you died, it was quick. LOL

The other thing that supports this idea is that the Buddha (Siddhārtha Gautama) said that a good person could go to a hell, and a bad person could go to the upper realms. But he said that it mostly depends on the karma. So if you had a lot of bad karma and you lived a good life you could go to hell. I think the most obvious thing is what state is your mind and whole BODY is in just before death.

Oh yeah this is what I was thinking of. I think a good way to tell might be if you compared traumatic deaths vs peaceful or relatively peaceful deaths. Most deaths are far from peaceful these days I am guessing. And from that you should be able to tell somewhat if there is some truth to this. From what I remember so far, this seems like it might be the case. Eben didn't die traumatically, perhaps since he was in a comma. Maybe that is not the best way to tell. I also think the age of the person might matter then too. I am more sure now more than ever, that this has some kind of real sway at the time of death. Also it might be that if you die from a heart attack, from a really bad heart attack that is painful that it would not matter as long as your relatively young with the rest of your body and nerves doing fine. Just as long at the rest of your body, and mind is relatively well. IMO it would make sense that if the whole body and especially nerves was in complete breakdown, with much suffering, and a lot of energy with it, that this would be the worst state to be in. So not only do you have the energy to make hells but you would also be manifesting not only a breakdown of your body, but your spirit with consciousness."

Me "BTW I remember reading of a women that said that she astral projected into people before. Thus similar to remote viewing into a fetus. I would imagine a fetus would be perfect for accepted a consciousness into it's body. It's tantalizing what is possible."

Thoughts please. BTW I want to know if these things have been thought of by you advanced AP'ers yet here?

Thanks, peace

Hey everyone I made a picture of Frank Kepples model of astral projector AKA phasing. Let me know what you think. I know it's not perfect but it will do. If you guys want to share it go ahead.



Peace.

Edit: I edited your link to include the 'img' tags so that people won't have to click the link to see the image. ~Xanth  

Edit: Again by david14433 I think this new one is better. BTW I added some tags in photobucket, so I hope it shows up.

I made this nice picture of the Frank Kepple model but I can't post it on these forms. Please help.

OK so I have been wondering how one can go to other dimensions. All I have really heard is that you can go into a sun and go to higher dimensions. The Buddha said that once you die (I am sure it's not death as in how we know it) that you transition into another dimension, or something like that. Also I think Frank said that you have to really relax and give up all the things of a particular dimension to go high, or something like that. Can anyone add to or clarify what I have here? Thanks.

Peace.

I am looking to find someone who would have never believed astral projection in a million years (practically forever), yet later on they found that astral projection absolutely works and is for real. Is there anyone with a good testimony here they would like to share?

Thanks.

Hi all I was wondering what is your experience between phasing and other astral projection techniques? Is phasing much more easier to do than other techniques? What convinced me to try phasing is the
"The Frank Kepple Resource" at http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html
It just makes sense to me. It seems to me that phasing would work a better than some of the other AP techniques that I have tried in the past with minimal success. If you have any experience or thoughts on this I would love to hear it. Thanks.

I hear quite a bit that you have to use intent for AP (astral projection) and other basic things. Is that easy to use or cultivate. Can it be exercised? Does it need to be exercised? Any thoughts on this would be great.

 Hi all I have been thinking about the biology of AP (AKA Astral Projection). We all know that you can't sleep unless you have certain hormones or neurotransmitters at work to help you do that like melatonin, serotonin, even testosterone and progesterone can help with this. Certain herbs and mushrooms can drugs can bring you into another dimension. Acetylcholine is known to help with dreaming. All these things have different effects on the body brain and mind. My question is what is your experience with the biology of AP or having an OBE? Has any substance helped you AP, or OBE? Thanks.