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this is the first time it has happened but i am quite annoyed by it.
I had my first fully successful OBE or astral projection about 2 weeks ago, where i had full sight, sound,and tactile. So that made me very happy.
Now that I know what to look for and feel, I have been practising more and been very close each time I do it but I have been foiled! Why? my cat!
The first time i projected she was there and didn't do anything.
But each time and in particular last night, every time i would get the vibrations to start going out, uncannily, she would stand up and rub against my arm as i lay there , which needless to say snapped me out of it.

This happened not once or twice but three times! So essentially she seemed to know when i was about to leave and would purposely distract me. It was very aggravating. So she made me waste 2 hours which would have been successful in like 30 mins..
This seems to speak to me of cats having some kind of sixth sense or natural vision in the astral. what do you guys think?
Any other animal or cat stories?
Next time i am locking her out of the room lol.
Its like she didnt want me to go aww.

HI all
I have been training trying and practising to astral project for years now.
I have been able to get half out in one case and then fully out only once but i was blind and couldnt move then i was back in.
My main question and thing I'd like to discuss is the idea of astral projection otherwise known as the body of light, or assuming god form in magical practice. Mainly western ceremonial magic and occultism.
The background to my question is, the idea of attention and visualisation/imagination is of couse very key to atsral projection, but when one reads about people astral journeying in magical records they often sound like mere imaginings. Of course it is necessary to imagine before your project to get the setting right and build up the proper senses and setting, but is there truly a difference between astral projecting and creative visualisation/imaging? Or is one merely imagining in their minds eye the whole time?
From my personal experience it feels as if i am truly leaving my body, albeit i was unable to go anywhere or see or be out for more than a few seconds.  But in reading material such as the abuldiz working with aleister crowley and his seer/scarlet woman mary d'este where she describes seeing an old wizard, in a forest, and under a palm tree etc, and receiving messages through the 'excitation of drink and sex' i am at a loss to see if this happened on the astral, as magic is supposed to affect this to work, how one could prove it is different from imaginings. similarly in the book magic in theory and practice crowley says of one method of invocation: "The first method concerns the so-called astral body.  The Magician should practise the formation of this body as recommended in Liber O, and learn to rise on the planes according to the instruction given in the same book, though limiting his "rising" to the particular symbol whose God he wishes to invoke. "  when you read the instructions in liber o it says "Let him imagine his own figure as enveloping his physical body, or standing near to and in front of him. 3. let him then transfer the seat of his consciousness to that imagined figure, so that it may seem to him that he is seeing with its eyes, and hearing with its ears. This will usually be the great difficulty of the operation. "
now in hindsight this sounds very similar to the monroe techniques and many others, so maybe it is real astral projection.but when one reads many magical records the people are not lying or relaxing but sitting or standing in 'god forms/poses' and thus i fail to see how they could be projecting, and their records sound similar to imaginings.

so is magical projection the same? any ideas or comments would be very enlightening.

HI all
I just joined today so I can help others and get some help myself in astral projection.
After one year of intense practice and about a total time in my life of 2 years practicing i finally had my first astral projection on Monday the 11th of May! At around 10 or 11 pm I finally felt my body go numb and then my energy body tingled and my breathing deepened and I felt a new body take form and I was outside my body! The only downside was I couldn't see. It was all black with maybe some spots. This lasted about 3 or 4 minutes, and I felt like I was standing although I was physically lying on the floor.  It was great. I'm glad I finally got it!
My first question is although I have been trying to recreate the experience, the past 3 and a half days in my tries I don't get as close and I haven't been able to leave since then. So do you think pain or sports injuries could inhibit projection? When I projected I was in good shape and totally relaxed.  Then on Wednesday I went on a killer hike and now my legs and some parts of my arms are super tense and almost pulled- very sore.  Could this stop me from projecting?  Maybe I have to wait until I heal so the tension goes away? The other question is although I have been doing what I did on Monday I haven't been able to get as relaxed, so after your first success did anyone else have a hard time getting to their second projection due to a more heightened sense of expectation or excitement? Also how long was it between your first and second? And last but not least how did YOU open your astral eyes?
I almost forget to mention a very important point.  When I successfully projected I was using Robert Monroe's astral journey or astral voyage CD with the last disc.  This had no vocal commands just some white noise with binaural beats or hemi sync interlaid.  When the CD ran out I stopped projecting.  So I hope I am not always going to be reliant on the CDs?
Thanks so much for your time reading this long post. And since I have no idea the difference between AP and OBE I will post this in both....hopefully that's not a problem
thanks in advance!

HI all
I just joined today so I can help others and get some help myself in astral projection.
After one year of intense practice and about a total time in my life of 2 years practicing i finally had my first astral projection on Monday the 11th of May! At around 10 or 11 pm I finally felt my body go numb and then my energy body tingled and my breathing deepened and I felt a new body take form and I was outside my body! The only downside was I couldn't see. It was all black with maybe some spots. This lasted about 3 or 4 minutes, and I felt like I was standing although I was physically lying on the floor.  It was great. I'm glad I finally got it!
My first question is although I have been trying to recreate the experience, the past 3 and a half days in my tries I don't get as close and I haven't been able to leave since then. So do you think pain or sports injuries could inhibit projection? When I projected I was in good shape and totally relaxed.  Then on Wednesday I went on a killer hike and now my legs and some parts of my arms are super tense and almost pulled- very sore.  Could this stop me from projecting?  Maybe I have to wait until I heal so the tension goes away? The other question is although I have been doing what I did on Monday I haven't been able to get as relaxed, so after your first success did anyone else have a hard time getting to their second projection due to a more heightened sense of expectation or excitement? Also how long was it between your first and second? And last but not least how did YOU open your astral eyes?
I almost forget to mention a very important point.  When I successfully projected I was using Robert Monroe's astral journey or astral voyage CD with the last disc.  This had no vocal commands just some white noise with binaural beats or hemi sync interlaid.  When the CD ran out I stopped projecting.  So I hope I am not always going to be reliant on the CDs?
Thanks so much for your time reading this long post. And since I have no idea the difference between AP and OBE I will post this in both....hopefully that's not a problem
thanks in advance!