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#1
Welcome to News and Media! / Death sensing Cat
July 26, 2007, 07:30:28
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6917113.stm


I bet the patients of that home are definately not happy if the Cat decides to come sit by them  :-o :-)
#5
Welcome to Dreams! / interesting dream
March 09, 2007, 08:06:10
Interesting dreams last night. I was lucid, but not really lucid enough to escape the belief the dream world was reality. I was near my high school; it was a dull gray afternoon/evening and I was attempting to cross a very busy duel carriageway. Across the road was a set of buildings which aren't there in reality, one being a large BandQ centre. While trying to cross the road, there was a sense of danger, lots of cars were driving erratically, and some large articulated Lorries were almost skidding down the road at an angle, like they had lost control. As I was crossing (I was at a set of traffic lights in the middle of the road), a large flaming mass came from the sky, and it seemed to be an airplane which finally crashed near BandQ. Not long after that, a lorry had lost control, skidding along the road sideways; I had to run to avoid it.
I went into BandQ, and was chatting to some people, it seemed I gained the knowledge that the universe was ending, reality was breaking down. It seemed things were fading into oblivion/blackness as the universe shrunk down. Its centre seemed to be not far from BandQ, and standing on it was small room with a secure door.
For some reason I knew I had to get there, so I left the building I was in through its back, and started running to this epicentre. I got to the small building and ran inside, shutting the door behind me. I was now in total darkness. Soon the oblivion was around the building (everything else had gone) and I felt it permeating the building I was in, I felt my mind fading, unravelling into nothingness as the fingers of oblivion destroyed who I was. And then everything had gone.
I was now at the beginning of the dream again, and once more reality was breaking down. I seemed to have some knowledge of the previous cycle, and so tried going straight to the epicentre again – although this time I had some trouble from the BandQ security guards as I tried to cut through there.
Once again everything repeated itself and I experienced myself fading into oblivion.
After many cycles of this, I discovered I needed an object which would stop me fading away.
After more cycles of not finding it, I was once again at this structure, this time though there was a man and a woman in there. They seemed to know about the universe fading but were reluctant to let me into the room. When they did, they seemed to have a (wooden?) bowl with an emulsive liquid in it (yellowish in colour) and they had rubbed it into their skin. This appeared to be the object I was after, and I rubbed what little was left into my own skin.
The ending came again, and I felt the oblivion envelope me until I was just awareness in nothingness. I seemed to have survived fading into oblivion this time but, there was just nothingness. It seemed from that point of nothingness I created the entire world through the use of my mind, and so I opened up the door of the shelter I was in, and the world outside seemed so stunning beautiful (perhaps compared to the nothingness).

I'm not sure if it was the same dream or a later one carrying this idea on, but at some point I seemed to be given the knowledge that each end of the universe was actually a sub-universe ending, one which somehow had branched away from the main universe and couldn't sustain itself so evaporated into the void.
#7
Welcome to News and Media! / Chimps
February 22, 2007, 14:58:21
I find it increasingly interesting how in recent times more and more of the traits which we thought seperated us from animals are actually being found within animals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6387611.stm
#8
Welcome to Astral Chat! / The Lost Room
February 07, 2007, 18:10:09
Did anyone else catch this 6 part series? I just finished watching it and all i can say is "WOW". It has to be one of the most amazing series I have ever watched. Definitely recommended to everyone. If you haven't seen it, don't google it as there are a lot of spoilers out there, but definitely try and watch it if you can.
#10
Welcome to Writers Corner! / frozen moments and you
November 22, 2006, 12:01:38
a surge of grief washes my senses,
seeming to ride the dim,
blue, evening light, and
suddenly i realise, that
this moment will soon be over -
never to be replayed,
that this life will soon be over -
always to be forgotten,
and that which i am, will fade -
dissipate -
end.
caught forever, light is frozen on my eye, a picture of you
arms stretched, evening light tracing your pink flesh,
tracing your face, and
reflecting back at my own eyes
so that i may construct you
experience you internally
(for that is all we ever know) .
the very same light that washes your body, also
washes my mind
yet, forever and always, we are separated
by the width of a single electron.
#11
our future together, we weave
from crystal strands, each of which
diffracts the sunlight into rainbow hues,
painting our hopes, dreams and intentions
across our attendant hands.
each new day sees, this structure grow
so that soon, it pierces our clothes, burrows
deeper into our flesh, binding us, into
a single fate – our beating hearts joined,
reverberating, along each rainbow thread.
any movement from others favour, sees
fractures develop, loud cracks – as
our prospective hopes stumble, and
parting, tears our hearts and flesh
causing this ephemeral structure to fail,
break apart, and come crashing to the ground
to reverberate within our aching wounds, and
along the corridors of our (now) separate lives.
#13
Welcome to Writers Corner! / fractured epiphany
October 17, 2006, 20:34:37
tear fractured world sparks, an iridescent cascade
of perfect ephemeral rainbows, each one - a part
of me, just as each is a part of this, single moment
of transcendental beauty. descriptive words
fail upon my lips, as coherent language fails
to give truth, to this frozen epiphany.
it seems there exists, in each unfolding instance,
a near infinite display of perfection, hidden
within the tumultuous sea,
that is the human story.
#14
I was just looking through my journal and noticed an experience i'd forgotten about, it was an attempt to initiate entity contact :):

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I was taking an afternoon nap and felt the potential for sleep paralysis (the sinking into oneself feeling.) I pushed myself (my mind) into it until my body felt paralysed and a deep humming vibration filled my body. Rather than try and roll out straight away I stayed with the vibrational state. I felt it throughout my body, tried to pulsate it from head to foot. When it was felt very strongly I rolled out onto the floor. I found this exit quite easy. I got to the window and started pushing my head against the glass, I slowly pushed myself through it (there was some resistance.)
One thing of note is that consciousness felt altered during this. Also on a few occasions my vision seemed to disappear for a second then come back. I was floating outside my bedroom window and for a split second a dark jeep seemed to appear in my garden, it looked like an open back army jeep, its bonnet lifted facing my house. It was gone in the blink of an eye. I surveyed my street and it looked beautiful and sunny. I decided to fly over towards the fields and was surprised at how easy it was (flight can sometimes be a problem for me) I tried to land on a rooftop at the bottom of my street but I couldn't stop myself. It was like I had momentum pushing me. I drifted down to the floor on one of the islands of grass at the end of my street.
Trying to walk proved to be a problem, it felt like I was running in slow motion, under reduced gravity or under water. Everything else was at normal speed apart from my movement as I slowly ran towards the fields. The slow movement coupled with the slightly altered state of consciousness give this OBE a different feel.
Before the nap I had been reading about entity contact under high doses of DMT. I decided to try and contact an intelligent being. I stood still and really focused on the thought "I wish to meet an intelligent being." I tried to project this out. I closed my eyes to aid me in the transition to a place with intelligent beings. I now found myself in a dark place, the sky was near black and stormy looking. I was stuck to the spot, paralysed. I forced my head down and my arms were against my sides, but my elbows were bent and my hands were out in front of me palms up. I had the feeling I was restrained by something. A booming and growling voice declared "I am an intelligent being." I didn't really get a feeling of malice from it, it sounded mildly curious. I couldn't move my head to look around but I had the idea that I was in a dark wasteland.
I pulled myself out of this place and found myself back in the street. I'm not sure what happened now, but although quite lucid of mind, I thought I was awake. A woman was with me. I seemed to know her at the time, but now when writing this up, she is a stranger. We walked over towards a fence near the field. Things were different from waking reality, but I didn't notice this (due to the reduced lucidity?) The fence was huge and for some reason I was trying to contact intelligent entities again. I was projecting out this desire over the fence and into the horizon.
My lucidity was quite low now. I was seeing strange things without questioning them. I found myself in a strange house, all the people there felt familiar but I have no idea who they are now. A women and a young girl were with me. There was a brown wooden door in the house which led to a deep vertical shaft, its walls were brown stone and it looked very deep. The shaft was quite illuminated by a pinkish glow so all details could be seen. There seemed to be portals doted around the walls. Pink and swirling. On the insistence of the girl we jumped into the shaft. She was telling me why we were doing this put I can't recall now. We fell a long way, and landed safely at the bottom (where there were other portals.) I stuck my head through one and I could see into a tunnel. Something was moving along the tunnel towards me, it looked snake like, reptilian but with a cats head (well it resembled a cat - like those Chinese dragons?) I pulled out of the portal quickly and told the girl we should get out of there. We ran to one of the walls which had a brown door, we went through and shut it behind us. We were back in the strange house. After this point my lucidity dimmed more as I talked to people I recognised at the time. I then found myself back in bed. On getting out of bed my consciousness still feels slightly altered - which has occurred after many OBEs. it's not an unpleasant feeling though =)

Quite an interesting experience but after that initial contact experience, my lucidity seemed to dim somewhat and fantasy (a dream state?) took over. The fact that I accepted the strange goings on without question is a testament to my lowered lucidity. Although I was aware - I got caught up totally in the environment.
#15
Welcome to Dreams! / Reoccurring bad dreams
August 21, 2006, 06:20:45

I rarely if ever have bad dreams, and those that I do have are interesting – so I don't mind them.
For as long as I can remember I've had one reoccurring bad dream. It always takes place in the same location, and it always consists of the same actions, but there is slight variation in each dream.
The basic dream takes place at my parents' house where I spent my childhood. I either wake up downstairs, or look at the clock and realise it is late (am hours) and pitch black outside. The curtains are all open, so if anyone/anything is outside, it can see in.
Next, I always realise either a window, door or patio isn't locked (usually multiple windows/doors etc). I get a very bad feeling that I need to lock the doors quickly as there is something in the dark outside which I don't want to let in.
When I attempt to lock the doors/windows etc they actually refuse to lock. I keep turning the key and nothing happens, or the door comes off its hinges. While this is happening, there is an increasing uneasy feeling.
The dream usually ends here.
Last night I had it again, this time I managed to lock two doors with a green key, I then turned all the lights off and was stood at the bottom of the stairs, the feeling of something outside was still there, so I creeped to the kitchen window to peer out. I planned to jump on to the sink and scare anything which might be looking through the window.
Outside the moon was lighting the garden up and I could see a variety of animals running about. I had the idea they were pets which had escaped from the shed, but I didn't want to go outside due to whatever was out there. I recall seeing a Dog (and thinking I should tell my sister she'd left it out), a kangaroo rat(!), and other small rodent like creatures.
I woke up soon after this with the feeling something was outside, or someone might have been in the house (there wasn't).
I'm not sure where this dream has come from, but it has been with me for a very long time).

On one occasion I became lucid during this dream (this is fairly common, but I wake myself up normally) and decided to run out into the back garden to face whatever was there. I remember it was dark, and the nearer I got to the back door, the dimmer my consciousness felt. It was like something was crushing my mind into unconsciousness/oblivion. I ran into the garden, trying to fight what was happening to my mind. In the centre was a 'thing', I can't really describe it, but it was like an energy being, black, dark, in the ground and all encompassing. I got grabbed and the crushing increased and tremendous energy surged through me. I woke up with powerful vibrations at this point.
#16
The new avatar I have should have a transparent background, but in internet explorer its showing a blue background. At first I thought it was a problem with the image, but on every other site I've used it, it appears transparent in the same browser, one of the sites even uses the same forum software. I'm not sure why this would happen here?
#17
This afternoon while taking a nap I experienced the vibrations multiple times. Each time the vibrations were brought on by getting involved in the same hypnogogic scenario. The scenario involved diving and whales. I seemed to have knowledge of a group who went diving, but their equipment would only let them go a certain depth. While diving, a whale would bite a diver and drag it down below this depth. The whale was only being playful, but the consequences of going below this depth were potentially serious.
This produced concern in me and the vibrations. It was almost like the deeper the whale went, the greater the vibrations.
#18
Welcome to Dreams! / Interesting dreams
July 16, 2006, 04:52:12
I had interesting dreams last night.

The first concerned some alien substance. A meteor or something similar fell to earth and a black tar like substance was found within it. It seemed to hold some properties of life, and at first the world was amazed. Soon interest in it was lost with the latest new headline.
I managed to get my hands on this substance, and it seemed through experimentation, we discovered it grew when dissolving organic matter. This research was top secret, but towards the end of the dream some people found out about it and raided the place we were keeping it. One of these people was dissolved by the tar which made it grow to very large proportions.
We tried escaping the facility we used to study it, as the tar seemed to have awareness now and I felt it might be malicious. I ran outside and the tar was stretched above me, it seemed to have what I interpreted to be an evil grin, and I feared I was about to be dissolved too (along with most of the world). The evil grin was misinterpretation on my part, and the tar substance was actually benevolent. Because I was one of the ones who helped it reach this size, it helped bestow powers upon me. At first, being wrapped in the tar (it was white now, like a blanket almost) allowed flight. But as time went on, proximity to it allowed the use of flight without it. Proximity to it must have created change. Other powers came like super strength (no, I haven't seen the new super man movie yet  :-D) came later, and I remember lifting cars up with one hand and flying about with them.
Also, at one point I became more lucid as I pushed my flying speed as fast as possible.

A later dream saw me taking a class. I had a feel it was like Buddhism, and dealt with meditation. One of my friends told me before we went into the class it was like a 'dirty spiritualism'. Dirty in the sense it got the job done but perhaps not in the most appropriate way.
In class I had to fill a sheet out which involved drawing lines between numbers (which I messed it). I was then given a manual which seemed to deal with all issues of life. It was full of esoteric diagrams and occult symbols. I remember feeling it wasn't really right, and not long after I found myself arguing with one of the instructors. It was like they were regurgitating book material rather than teaching true material.
I guess this place had a bit o a cult feel to it, and I decided to go back to argue some more.
#19
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Optical Illusion
June 28, 2006, 19:24:37
Very cool optical illusion below which relies on retinal fatigue :smile:.

http://www.johnsadowski.com/big_spanish_castle.html
#20
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Quotes
June 27, 2006, 09:02:34
I just came across one of the most profound quotes I have heard:

"Where self exists, there is no God
Where God exists, there is no self."

Guru Nanak Dev

It's from the Sikh religion.

Think about it outside of the most obvious literal meaning :smile:.

Anyone else have any favorite or inspirational quotes?
#21
Earlier this afternoon I went OBE. During the OBE I was inundated with memories (and Déjà vu symptoms) which seem to detail countless OBEs I had forgotten during waking consciousness. They were nothing amazing, but seemed to suggest I have a lot more experiences under my belt than I usually remember.
I also seemed to discover (at least part of) a reason why some of my OBEs end, or aren't accessible to waking memory. It had to do with doing 'non-normal' activities while OBE, and waking day conditioning (i.e. we cannot fly etc) conflicting. It seemed my OBEs on the whole would be stable until I started to fly, which sometimes would see an immediate return to body, or lessening of lucidity. It also seemed that I forgot a lot of such experiences.
I'm not sure if there is any truth to this, but it might be interesting to explore it :smile:.
#22
Welcome to Dreams! / Squid /Octopus dreams
May 31, 2006, 04:32:36
The last two nights have seen Squid/Octopus like creatures playing a central role in one of my dreams from each night.
Two nights ago, the dream with the creature concerned some form of ancient 'temple'. Although it was ancient, it looked amazingly new. The walls were an aqua colour, and I found myself with another man in an anti-chamber to a central room. The antechamber had an open doorway on one side (the ceilings were high up, and the door reached from the floor to the ceilings), and hanging from its roof had been a strange sort of 'chandelier'. It looked circular (a small tube shape) and its centre had contained spikes of material. The material was something special (I don't know anything more than that). The spikes faced into the central chamber, almost aiming at a recess in the back wall which seemed to be a throne.
I say this device had been hanging from the ceiling because on our arrival, something had triggered it (I think a worm hole opening near it (more worm holes! :lol:)) and it had shot the spikes at the creature which had occupied the throne.
The man with me was horrified, as the creature was supposedly ancient too (I had no idea if it was good or evil, but I had the slight feeling it might be good that it was dead). I did know that normal weapons could not kill this creature, it actually was pretty unkillable.
The creature itself was a large octopus, it was a sort of medium blue colour, bit its head was shaped different it had seemed to be very intelligent.
We walked into the central chamber to find it actually contained about 5 feet of water, pillars were dotted around. Dolphins were swimming though the water, jumping out and generally playing. They were telling me things (which I can't remember now).
We walked closer to the 'throne' and I felt something on my leg. It was a small blue looking octopus, a miniature version of the thing which had just died. I climbed on the throne to put it there and saw it was grabbing something. It had one of my (real life) pet rats in its tentacles; I pulled the rat away and put it in my pocket, and placed the creature on the throne.
There was something happening in the background here, like the creature would always be replaced (as seen by the small creature).
I had the feeling that this place was in the future somehow.

Last nights dream concerned squid like creatures. In one of my dreams I find myself in a harbour city which I didn't recognise. All I knew is that humans were being 'replaced' by creatures which looked human. I had the idea it was possible to act in a certain way and fool them.
Something more was happening though, it seemed reality itself was being changed, and occasionally there would be fluctuations and reality itself would flip to a dark place. It looked like its 'normal reality' counterpart, but dark and twisted. These changes could happen many times in a second, alternating between the two, or the darker place could last minutes. I had the idea that each time reality flipped, the darker reality lasted longer.
During one of the flips (in the dark place), I was near the sea and saw giant white squid creatures carrying the fake humans to shore. They seemed malevolent, and had very intelligent eyes.
At one point I was seeing from another normal humans eyes who had fell into the sea and was killed by one of them.

Not much more happened in that dream :smile:. Although another dram that night was great. I was with a group having aeroplane flying lessons, and we each got a chance to fly the plane. It was amazingly vivid and I could feel the g-force and everything :grin:.
#23
I'm curious as to others favourite poems or verses from poetry?

The following has to be near the top of my favorites:

Quote
pity this busy monster, manunkind

pity this busy monster, manunkind,

not. Progress is a comfortable disease:
your victim (death and life safely beyond)

plays with the bigness of his littleness
--- electrons deify one razorblade
into a mountainrange; lenses extend
unwish through curving wherewhen till unwish
returns on its unself.
                         A world of made
is not a world of born --- pity poor flesh

and trees, poor stars and stones, but never this
fine specimen of hypermagical

ultraomnipotence. We doctors know

a hopeless case if --- listen: there's a hell
of a good universe next door; let's go

      -- E. E. Cummings
#24
Welcome to Writers Corner! / Final Lament
May 25, 2006, 17:29:40
Is life but chance?
Is mind but brain?
The soul but shadow
Formed hopes dream?
Or maybe more
Man's latent gift
Man's hopes and fears intermixed.
Is all one
If one is all?
Does one have reason,
Purpose for all?
With realisation paid and brought,
Enlightened peace,
Comes peace with all.

To touch the infinite
With one's soul,
To fathom a universe
As yet untold.




This was written a while ago (years), but shows I haven't always been a total sceptic :lol:.
#25
I was taking an afternoon nap and in one of my dreams I seemed to be on some other planet. It seemed to be the future. There was a strange gateway blocked by swirling green energy carved into rock, and near it, there was a device with a keyboard. It actually looked like an 80's arcade machine(!). I knew the device was built by some ultimate race. To use it, it required you enter a password. The keys contained strange symbols. I kept hitting keys and got frustrated because I couldn't enter the correct password. I tried pushing my hands through the screen for some reason.
Next, Data (out of next gen :lol:) came along and put the correct password in. When he appeared there was a voice over dialogue explaining who he was and his capabilities etc.
He put the password in a few times, and I tried to see what symbols he touched but his fingers seemed to blur making it impossible to tell.
On entering the code, a part of the machine opened and there were sheets of paper with codes on them. Each code seemed to reference a place is space time. You simply had to write what code you needed, then feed it into the machine through a slot.
I did this, and with reluctance, pushed myself through the machine screen (it was a form of gateway).
My vision faded, I couldn't move and I felt the most tremendous energy surge through me. I was now awake in bed with paralysis and vibrations, but still of the mindset I was being 'teleported' by this machine. This produced a moment of worry concerning the machine having malfunctioned and I was stuck in this state.
I couldn't roll OOB so I created a tactile visualisation of my arms dragging me inch by inch out of body (similar to ROPE) but with a ladder.
When I did get out I had very little vision and the experience didn't last for long.
It was just interesting how this device seemed to create the vibrations and paralysis in real-life :smile:.
#26
Welcome to Dreams! / Symbolic Dreams of late
May 09, 2006, 08:22:59
Strange dreams of late. I've changed my OBE techniques quite considerably, and the most noticeable difference is the dramatic change in dream vividness, lucidity and cohesiveness.
Last nights dream contained a giant – or more like I and people with me were minute, so the normal humans were about 500 feet high. We were at war, and at one point of the dream I was under one of these giants and shooting him up the nose with a machine gun (:lol:). He obviously didn't like this, and so gave chase.
Next it was like déjà vu. It was decided and I knew what to do. This involved trying to escape to a 'mouse hole' where I knew we would be safe. But the giant was giving chase. There were gigantic red rail tracks flailing wildly about as we ran past.
Anyway, the man somehow got to the area behind the mouse hole and I was cornered, but I had enough lucidity to change the dream.
Another dream from last night contained a figure whose natural state was a being of pure blinding white light – but he had a human form too. I was in a dark hole with him (like a dungeon) and I knew his true state. He turned into the figure of light when feeding, and feeding meant death to the victim.
There was tension in the air as I was alone and I knew what was coming, so I made a run for it. He was shouting after me as he gave chase. I escaped, but one of the people with my group (from a previous dream who were outside the hole) was injured, so we brought them back to the place where this being lived. It seems he could heal as well as destroy. So I told him in no uncertain terms to  heal my friend.

It might not seem very exciting, but I had about 5 dreams last night and I can remember most word for word :smile:. And lately my dreams have been populated with powers, psychic phenomenon and archetypes. Usually Goddesses or female beings with immense power (does this suggest something?? :lol:) – although 'God' was in my dream a few nights back (he was 'male' or his/its energy felt 'male'), and what seemed to be the tower of babble (being built by huge stone golems).

Death has played a frequent part in recent dreams too, including questions of what truly happens when we die. A few nights back in a very vivid dream I and a group were being led to a white chamber in a religious compound (it looked like a Christian monastery populated by Monks etc). The chamber was an incinerator and we seemed to be going there through free choice to be killed.
I guess I was afraid and so made an excuse to get away from there – but my partner was in our group and she continued to the chamber. In my dream she died, which was terrible. But later she was alive and in my arms again. She had full knowledge of what happened in the chamber, and spoke of the pain of flesh burning etc. But then, she remembers being alive again but none of what happened in between. A few days before that I was studying what seemed to be my own headless corpse (which was unusual lol :grin:).

I should really start writing my dreams down again.
#27
I'm more than familiar with hypnogogic voices and sounds at the start of trance. But I'm curious of peoples opinions of voices heard during the vibrational state?
I just took a nap and felt intense vibrations; I could only seem to float up a foot or so during them before I hit a 'barrier'. During this there was a lot of sound around me, mostly foot steps as people seemed to be walking over things in my room.
An elderly, but fit gentleman seemed to be behind me (there is really a wall there). I couldn't see him, but knew what he looked like and knew about him. He was dressed almost like an old Victorian explorer. He was also a medium. He was talking to me, saying how surprised he was to find so many others (spirits) here (around me). He said it was busy here. This gave me the idea that these others were always here around me. He then mentioned water, saying something like you only usually get such concentrations by water. It might have actually been the word 'blue' instead of water, and due to association I interpreted it as water.
This conversation went on for a while, and the noise around me, and in the garden continued.
The vibrations stayed for a while, so I tried pushing past this barrier and they intensified. I then seemed to send out a thought stating I was ready. Ready for what I'm not sure :).
During the experience I was lucid, and I evoked the vibrations just after waking up. I felt the potential for them, so just 'pushed out' which brought them surging in.

During hypnogogic states, the voices are quite incoherent, and unless I feel deeply into an hypnogogic scenario – where my lucidity dims to near zero (a dream lucidity) – they are usually too unstructured to have conversations with. Also, if I get absorbed in a hypnogogic scenario, I'm no longer in my room. With vibrational conversations as above, I have full awareness of my body and room and am very lucid. Just usually paralysed and feeling the vibrations.
#28
Welcome to Astral Chat! / AP Software
March 15, 2006, 14:43:48
I've created some OBE, dream, lucid dream, standard journal software. All the core functionality is in place and I need a few people who could use it and help iron out the bugs before i start adding advanced functionality. If anyone is interested please send me a PM.
The system is built in .Net, and as it hasn't been tested using mono yet, window users only for now.
#29
Welcome to Dreams! / more wormhole dreams
March 14, 2006, 19:27:10
The dream was lucid, but it was like I didn't realise I was dreaming (I had control of my faculties and could think independently – rather than being an observer etc).
I somehow had moved into the future and was with an unknown girl. I was in the driveway of my parent's house.
A spaceship had crashed near by (it was about as large as a lorry) and one of its hatches were open. I knew there were two aliens inside (they were primitive) and they had stolen a backpack I'd dropped (it contained some form of weapon). The aliens kept coming to the hatches, looking over threateningly. I worried that they would learn how to use the weapon and attack us.
I seemed to have a small laser device on me, so when the aliens ran out of the spaceship I tried hitting them with it. It was a continuous red beam. I managed to hit one of them, but they were amazingly quick and agile. The other seemed to dodge the laser beam however quick I was.
The beam seemed to cause ripples and interference patterns in the fabric of reality, so if I moved it quickly about the same area there would be waves in reality like those caused by a rock falling into water.
The girl noticed something, and it seemed to be a worm hole opening up, we had a bad feeling about this, that we would die if we got caught up in it. SO we started to run across the street towards a neighbour's house. The worm hole continued to grow and we thought we wouldn't be able to run from it, so we turned and faced it. An expanding sphere of white with reality distortions at its edges was soon within moments of us. Me and the girl held each other knowing we were about to die, not only this, we knew we would face oblivion on death. This was pretty interesting in a morbid way. There was an inherent knowledge of people moments away from the 'end'. I was there, and felt everything/every thought.
The white light hit us and I was aware of the girl panicking, then I was engulfed by the white. I dissolved away, feeling my mind as it seemed to dim and quiet and be replaced by the white, and soon there were just whispers, then  

nothing. gone.


This dream, with the same level of lucidity, repeated throughout the night, each time feeling my mind dissolve away and shut down. Each time being engulfed and annihilated by this white light. Each time feeling moments from death and nothing in the world could help as I watched the wormhole tear towards us, and the terror of the girl as I held her.

Towards morning, back in the future, we had knowledge of the annihilation and it felt like we had been away for a very long time.


I'm not sure what this reoccurrence of wormholes in my dreams symbolises.

I have had dreams regarding oblivion of the self/mind in the past. Usually I watch it happen to others. Once the event was overlapped with a candle flame burning, and then oblivion, and the flame blew out to be replaced by nothing.
#30
Welcome to Dreams! / Astral dreams?
February 22, 2006, 04:33:51
I had an interesting night of dreams. The main dream was strange as it involved periods of lucidity, and then periods where I was the observer.
It started with me and a friend attempting to project. In the dream his older brother seemed to know a lot of AP techniques, and helped us to project together.
The technique is hard to go into, but it involved the creation of a room (visualisation), the room had a lot of large flat green crystals and white walls. We placed ourselves into this room, and easily projected from there.
First we flew over my neighbourhood and went to a strange place, it was like a research facility on the edge of a lake, a dock protruded out into the lake and there were a lot of people there. There was a boat with people on near the dock too. We flew in and landed (I was mostly lucid now) and the people could see us. My friend needed to get some information from the building, and I kept watch over the people. I found that if I focused hard I could levitate objects, so I proceeded to lift people and drop them in the water. Before we left I tried to lift the boat, and with a lot of effort I did.
The people who were there didn't seemed pleased by our presence, but a girl grabbed me and kissed me before we flew away.
We now went to another location which is hard to describe, it was more abstract concepts then solid mater which can be described.
We returned to our bodies through the use of the room structure and I became a mostly unaware observer again. We were grinning at the experience and went to talk to my friend's brother, he could tell we'd enjoyed ourselves and told us the location by the lake was a F6(?) zone and the more abstract zone was (I think) an F27 zone.
Later, I find out my friend has projected and he's been gone a while. Worriedly I move my awareness to the green room and project, I now gain lucidity. I'm flying over my neighbourhood again, but find it difficult to fly fast. It's an effort to keep myself in the air, and once again people can see me.
I phase over to the F27 location where my friend is, and its like a white locale with a huge white cube (hundreds of meters high/long), the cube can open/close/distort and seems controlled by some intelligences. My friend has been trapped in the cube, a slit has opened in the middle and I can see tentacles/arms/ pulling him and grabbing him, he looks grey and drained. I try and pull him out, which is difficult to do. For some reason a neighbour is here with me (the were in the green/white room I'd been using as a base). My friend tells me to leave him as doesn't think he has the energy to get out. I finally free him and the cube closes. We get back to our bodies and I become the observer again.

There's a lot more dream after this, but that was the main AP related stuff so I'll end here :P
In the lucid sections, I had complete lucidity, and the realism was amazing.

Edit: I was later told what was happening in the cube. Supposedly the intelligences needed a man which they were going to infuse with feminine energy/create a hybrid energy form from it for some reason.
#31
Welcome to Dreams! / Interesting dream
February 08, 2006, 18:17:19
To quote out of my journal:

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Strange dream last night. In the dream there was large wall carving, like
the ancient Mayan ones, on a large stone tablet. Inlaid in it were a number
of coloured crystals. They seemed to represent charkas I think, although
there was an extra white crystal. The wall contained three main carvings.
The left most one was man I think, I didn't really see that bit. There was
indentations for the crystals in that carving too but they were empty. The
next carving was large and alien. It represented something ancient, alien to
human intellect. It was surrounded in many concentric circles. This carving
had the crystals inlaid in it now. They were in one of the concentric
circles surrounding the central image. This implied 'ownership' on some
level. This alien concept, being represented in the carving was now active
again, represented by the crystals around it. I had the notion that this
'thing' had not been active since the dawn of all.
The last, right most carving, slightly below the others seemed to represent
the source. The genesis. This carving also had spaces for the crystals, but
had extra small crystals inlaid too. They were small and oval shaped,
forming arcs around the image in the middle. A circle surrounded this
carving too.
The middle alien image seemed to be interacting with that of the source. I
was told that this alien thing was burrowing in some manner  to the source.
There was an enmity between them, as if to show this, small arks of
electricity seemed to dance between the small oval crystals of the carving
of the source. Something vast was happening.
There was a square hole at the bottom of the large tablet, and occasionally
a small perfect diamond would form there, a man was collecting them. I
picked one up, and then took one of the ovals from the carving of the source
and put it in my mouth (I have no idea why!)
While I was studying the carvings, there seemed to be a vast vortex behind
me, a whirlpool of energies (purple and blue?) and a man and woman. They
were trying to prevent something, or had some greater task and so didn't
even acknowledge me.


It was a very vivid dream and seemed to contain a lot of undercurrents.


Not too sure what to make of this, I had this dream a while ago but would be interesting in interpretations etc :)
#32
I guess before I start babbling, I should state assumptions. What I present here are not necessarily my views, but it's an idea I just had, and even ideas we do not like should be studied to see if they contain any truth.

Firstly, we all carry around the same consciousness. I don't necessarily mean that this has to be a shared consciousness(one/source) etc but if we take consciousness to be the product of the physical brain, then the same mechanism in each of our brains produces self awareness and consciousness the same way. Personality differences arise through direct experience shaping our belief systems and ego.
Secondly, I'm going to look at this from the viewpoint that only physical exists, i.e. we are just the product of a physical brain and nothing more.

If the physical brain is complex enough to produce self awareness or at least the illusion of self awareness, and allows us to construct this physical reality we perceive around us, is it such a large step to assume that the same brain can create other locales below the level of our current focus (those being the astral, mental, of F1,2,3,4 etc)?

One proof that we can give to being more than a physical brain is the ability to remote view, or project and to a remote location and successfully perceive knowledge outside our current location.
In a deterministic universe, everything is predestined. If we each share this consciousness, is it not possible that the information we receive is already within us? i.e. we simply filter through our brains knowledge and retrieve this information, rather than travelling to a remote location?

Another proof of being more than the physical is the ability to meet someone remotely in the astral and booth have similar experiences. Yet, in a predetermined universe whatever neurological function relates to knowledge of that meeting would exist within all of us.

I guess it comes down to, that if we are all the exact same consciousness, spawned from the same physical brains (in different bodies) then isn't it possible that each of our brains contain the same areas of knowledge and knows through the way we are wired. So 2 people meeting in the astral, could really be 2 people accessing the area of brain function relating to this experience?)

What I'm trying to get my head around is the possibility that the universe as we know it is a brain construct, and so all experience is already stored. I'm also trying to grasp that idea that even mundane reality interactions, such as talking to friends or watching TV, is but an energy exchange of some kind, or perhaps brain function, that our brain actually perceives as the aforementioned. That is, things are very different from what we actually perceive.


I know there are a lot of holes in the above, and even the possibility of such a thing being true can be quite scary, but I'm a firm believer that we should walk all avenues of thought. To exist in a world where we only look at knowledge which pleases us (shunning or ridiculing knowledge which threatens our current reality view), surely leads to a warping of any possible truths we might find. As we are seeing truth through only a self filtered belief system/ego and potentially only seeing what we would like to see.


If presented with the above ideas (I hope I articulated myself sufficiently to at least get the idea across) how would you personally disprove them , or integrate them?
#33
I'm curious as to others opinions on jewellery and if it can have an adverse or even positive effect on OBE attempts. I've been wondering if placing a foreign mineral (which might also have its own unique energy field) so close to the body (i.e. rings, necklaces) could somehow effect the bodies energy field, and could it effect energy raising or natural energy flows? I've no knowledge or opinion on this area hence this post.
#34
I've often wondered if the energy body (primary and secondary energy systems) is but a belief system which once bought into, could help with certain spiritual persuits.
Things I've learnt from OBEs is that physical body perception is a belief system which soon fades in the OBE state if awarness is not kept on the act of having a body. When the body is forgotten I have no body, I am but a point of awarness.
On many occassions I have morphed into the form of other animals or beings.
My question regards the existence of the energy bodie outside that of belief systems. Are energy bodies an innate part of consciousness? If so, what form do they take when (physically learnt) bodily awarness is forgotten; so the body fades? Also, what form do they take when we morph into other forms?
I guess I am am coming to the conclusion that the energy body is a belief and nothing 'absolute' or more.
#35
When I encounter the vibrational state, I usually try and force myself out. Today I actually learnt that is the wrong way to go about it. Although sometimes I did get out, more often than not I would kill the vibrations. Today I relaxed and breathed deeply, this increased them 10 fold and gave me a high pitched whirring in my head.
Anyway, today's projection was different to any I've had before. Lucidity was high. When I sat up out of body I was in a red car driving through an unknown town. There was a large open skylight in the roof, and looking up there were very strange trees hanging over the road. They had wooden effigies of humans in them, not just humanlike shapes, but they were perfect in every detail.
At a crossroads I got out of the car to go exploring. At first everything seemed unreal, like a high level computer generation. I decided to go flying and found myself in a forested area at night. There was a celebration going on, on top of a huge building. I decided to fly up, but I kept encountering ceilings (areas I couldn't fly above). Luckily these were near edges so I could grab them, pull myself up and fly to the ledge above. When I got to the top I hid in the shadows, there was a large audience whose attention was centered on a podium, they were there to celebrate someone/thing.
Not long after I was seen by a woman who grabbed me. I struggled to the edge of the building and with effort floated off. But she was still holding on to me. She became quite terrified at the experience, and I told her I was worried I couldn't fly with her weight on me. I managed to float us both down into the jungle. She lived in a complex in the jungle, which she informed me had a lot of traps which could kill people. She guided us through a lot of small structures, which all had a strange red crystalline growth on the ceiling, and a small purple laser seemed to flick out at us as we passed under.
We finally got her to her building (Which was one of many similar ones - the others trapped decoys too) and we said out goodbyes. I now decided to go home so I started to fly again towards my house. On leaving I saw a police car pull up below me and go to the house I dropped the woman off at, they were looking for a man which the guests at the celebration had seen acting strangely. She looked at me flying away and said nothing. I got back to my house uneventfully.

I'm not sure what to make of this experience as when I usually pull out of body, I'm in my bedroom.

Last night I had a strange experience too. I was in an old room with someone I seemed to recognise from life. For some reason I mentioned UFOs and he got increasingly agitated at me, jumping up and demanding to know about them. He had an idea an organisation was keeping knowledge of them away from him. I then found myself in bed, totally paralysed with the vibrations. BUT. My bedroom looked different, I thought I was lying in a class room which looked run down. It took a little while to pull through this dream state to see my bedroom as it was. I also had a form of paralysis which cant be broken. Movement is possible with extreme effort, but you sink back down, still unable to move. So I always give into the paralysis at this stage (very deep trance state?) My girlfriend has seen me in this state, as I guess I was whimpering trying to get enough effort to 'break it.'
And the night before this I had another strange experience. I was seemingly watching my OBE state from a 3rd person view. (Later that night in a very vivid dream I was a wolf, and with my mate we had some cubs! Quite interesting on the whole :) But this is going way OT).
#36
QuoteI think the motivation for OBE is important too. Ask yourself exactly why you want to OBE and be honest with you about it. Why is important.

Taking this quote of Tayesin from another thread, i'm curious to your motivations for achiving the OBE state.
I've tried to think of what my motivation is, and to be honest, I don't have any idea. All I know is that from when I first read about OBEs they caught something inside of me. I felt a pull which could get very strong on occasion, to this area. I've been practicing OBEs for around 10 or 11 years now and I still can't define my core motive.
One possibility is innate curiosity. I read widely and deeply, and am facinated by the workings of everything. But, my interest in the paranormal really stops at OBE. I've read into other areas but none have effected me in the same way, or given me the desire to persue that direction intently.
#37
Hi all,

I've never really practiced healing, but last year I experienced something which I havent yet been able to explain. I've posted about it to a reiki group and I recieved no answers so I thought I would try here.

My original post was as follows:

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Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is the correct group, but I recently experienced something concerning energy and healing - so I figured I'd try here :) I've never really looked into Reiki so please excuse my ignorance. Although I have never looked into this area I have been aware of subtle energies for many years. My main area of interest is OBEs (and surrounding areas) and so I have meditated and have been developing my energy body for years. Regardless of what people think of the OBE state, it does put one in very close contact with energies and the energy body. Over the past year I have been using new techniques which are more of a tactile visualisation than 'visual.' They were developed by Robert Bruce and I have found them very potent for developing and maintaining the primary and secondary energy systems.
Well now that I've covered my background, I'll detail the experience which bought me here. At the time I had been doing daily trance work, energy work and meditation and so even when 'baseline' I still had a strong sensation of energy movement throughout my body. I was watching TV late at night and I became aware of movement on the floor. There was a moth fluttering about on it back, banging against things before it eventually stopped moving and lay on its back. It seemed dead or near death.
I'm not sure why I did this, I guess in part due to the strong energetic feelings I was still experiencing, before I went to bed I lay down on the floor near the body of the moth and started to raise my energy. My hands were about one foot on either side of the moth, there was no physical or close contact. While I raised my energy I started to visualise myself inhaling a brilliant white light, it went down into my lungs and travelled up each arm and out through my palms. With each exhale I breathed out a dark black used up energy.
The energy I visualised coming from my palms in a very tight line, sort of like a laser and it went into the body of the moth. At first I visualised a sphere of light around it, but as I focused more and got in-tune with what I was doing I centred the energy to the shape of the moths body. So it seemed like the moth was a brilliant white outline. Nothing happened but I kept this up, soon I was very focused and in a partial trance state I'd say (I had visual static, bright lights moving around the periphery of my vision etc) I then noticed the moths legs started to twitch. No other movement but the twitching. Now it seemed like an effort, I felt an excitation through my chest and arms and I had to focus to maintain the visualisation, it felt like there was a slight resistance to what I was doing. I'm not sure why but I started 'sending love' to the moth, saying I loved it and wished it to heal. I wanted it to live. This was sort of a mantra going through my mind, projected outwards towards the moth.
Soon the twitching in the moth increased and then it suddenly just burst into the air in a single movement and flew off at ceiling height. I'm not actually sure where it went, I looked for it afterwards but couldn't find it.
So what actually happened here? Even though I do practice OBEs I am quite 'scientific' in outlook, so I'm wondering if this was all coincidence? Perhaps the carbon dioxide from my breath somehow revived the moth? Or did I have some part to play in healing it? I'd like to hear others views on what happened.

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Any comments would be appreciated :)
#38
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Ethereal Music
October 13, 2004, 10:21:54
On two occasions in my life I've had the same auditory hallucination that I cant really explain. On both occasions I was involved in spiritual practices at the time ie I'd been a lot more involved in astral projection or lucid dreaming. Its hard to describe what I heard but it was not inside my head, it was external. It was the most beautiful music I have ever heard. It was quiet but I could hear it all perfectly. The first time it was dark and I was in my sisters room reading. It seemed to come from the sky. It was the most angelic/ethereal sound you could wish to hear. A few years later, I was in my sisters room when I heard it again. Exactly the same music. I have no idea what it is, but it was beautiful

Has anyone heard anything similar, or perhaps has any idea what this music was?
#39
Hi all,

Over the past year or so sleep paralysis (which I usually use to OBE) has changed for me. Before it would be normal paralysis and energy sensations, which I would use tactile visualisations to go out of body. But the recent changes are stopping me from projecting as they do induce a reflex fear reaction. Sleep paralysis now (if I go with the flow and try not to break it) induces very 'heavy' energy sensations. My body awareness feels pulled away and my mind seems to 'slide' as tremendous pressure seems to be crushing me down and backwards. I use crushing not in the sense of pain, just in the sensation of tremendous pressure. It feels like I'm sinking into myself under the weight. As it gets more pronounced I find it hard to not get a fear reaction and pull myself out of it, breaking the paralysis too. Although if I don't move to much I can easily induce the paralysis and energy sensations again. On some occasions my mind feels stretched during this state, sometimes seemingly across to infinity.
I generally feel this kind of paralysis/energy sensation after becoming immersed in an hypnopompic scenario - during the scenario I feel the potential for the paralysis state and move towards it.

Has anyone experienced similar sensations or have any tips/methods on reducing their severity? I've been experiencing SP for over 20 years so the state usually holds no fear for me.


Any help would be appreciated.