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Christians and eaven most developed projectors from Tiibet say that negatives can steal your holy energy from psyhical world thanks to You and thanks to me [] and becouse of that god can not give you helpful energy when you ask it at the "Table" (i mean that place in church) Thats what they say. I have felt myself too negatives leeching sometimes when i wake up from bad dream and experience that negative is leeching (this is only possible when i am in stress and very tired, otherwise i can stop the act for example when i am tired and want to go to sleep but at the falling asleep time negative tries to leech from me).
I can see negatives entering my room (as i can see my mother coming to wake me up in the morning, i am using earplugs so i cant hear her comeing, but i can see her with my astral body when she enters second floor and comes towards my roomdoor), messing with me while creating bad dreams, i have talked with ghosts while wakeing up from dream and feeling strange vibrations passing me.
I have seen many negs when i wake up from attack but i am paralyzed and can open my eyes with vexation but then find my body in trance and fully paralyzed, then you can see what these colourful splotches become in the air in your room.
Never, ever worship any neg or allow him to do anything and dont ask anything from these damn low beings. If you worship or ask something then only from pure goodness.
By the way i am natural, i have not asked this whith my consiousness.

Sometimes when i am going into trance (usually for lucid dream not for astralprojection) i experience somekind of hit and i feel very different. After that i feel no sleep at all and cant get sleep for a while (at least cant project after that), like insomnia. This feeling is like being very drunk and then getting sober with one second  [xx(]

Is it that barrier between astralplane. I never had thatkind of broblem while projecting but i first experienced it two months ago.

I can't explain it very clearly, but I can tell you what has worked for me.

When I am attacked and my energy is being affected, it's because the attacker has some weird intent, not because the attacker is thinking "I want his energy."  

For example, this old psychic man was very jealous of me because I became close friends with some of his former friends (I should of heeded their warnings about the old man but I was naive).  He was on disability, and he would sit in the same place for days at a time pouting; talking to himself and his so-called "spirit guides" about what a jerk I was, how I let him down, how I hurt his feelings, and all sorts of weird stuff.  

His energy affected me and people around me in a bad way.

I walked in on his "spirit guide" conventions a few times and ended the friendship.  That wasn't hard because he was really weird.  Anyways, that's when I realized how he was affecting me, and what to do about it.  When I felt the negative effects of his energy on me I would focus on those parts of my body with positive energy, pretty colors, or anything good; it was an instant remedy.  The point is, don't try to send energy back, don't put up an "energy wall" to block attacks, and don't focus on your anger.  You will only become more vulnerable.  Find a way to focus on yourself (not the negative energy) and I bet most of your troubles will go away.

A couple more things:
If a very psychic person were to help you during one of your attacks, they would see a certain point on your body (be it your physical or energy body) that was weak, damaged, under attack, etc., and they would concentrate their healing energy there.  On you.  That's what you should do , concentrate your energy on yourself.  If you concentrate on the bad spirit/energy, you will surely attach it to you(I know some people who do that on purpose, so they can deal with the spirit/energy at home.  I think they are wasting their time).

When you spirit travel, stay focused on what you are doing and what you need to do.  You will run into negs at times and you shouldn't have to remind yourself that they can't hurt you.  Stay focused on your perogative and you'll forget they were ever there.  Stay focused and you'll never run into them (okay, almost never).

Remember that psychic attacks don't defend you, they make you vulnerable.  

Finally, learn to use rocks or water or smoke or circles of rocks or odors or some of the other popular tools for protection and empowerment.  I don't use them but they seem to help a lot of other people (sometimes bad people use those "tools" to make their attacks more effective, they're the ones you have to watch out for.  Those tools make better defense than offense anyways).

Good luck.

When my mom used to wake me up ( before I got an alarm clock) I used to be able to know and see when my mom was comeing to wake me up I thought it was the most extrordinary thing to have.[]

quote:Originally posted by MK911
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF i go too far and cant get back ? [V]

I tell ya, that was probably my BIGGEST fear when I first started projecting.  It's especially scary when you're flying at light speed in a DOWNWARD direction, because you start wondering if you're going to SMACK into a hard surface.

One time, I got freaked out because I thought, "Oh no....I'm going down.  Down?  Down=Hell.  Hell!  AGGGHHHHHH!!"

However, the more experiences you have flying in the void like this, the more you learn to TRUST them.  Now, whenever this happens, I do two things:

1) As I'm flying, I reaffirm to myself that everything is ok, nothing is going to happen, and just to relax

2) I imagine myself slowing down, slowly....slowly....until I finally imagine my feet touching ground and my site kicking in.  Sure enough, it works every time now.

Best of luck.....I know it can be scary but you'll start to overcome that soon.

Well, your subconscious is not just a fleshy chemical thing in the brain, its multidimensional(from what i presently know).

You stay out too long. Hahaha I would pay to have your "problem". You can learn to control it so you wont be dragged. Until then, dragging wont hurt you.

MK911, I think you've answered your own question!  

And the proper response, now that you've realized the enormity (sp?) of it all, is to "get right with God," or in other words, connect with the Divine Force however you can, and work on your spirituality.  Because what really matters is where YOUR head and soul are at, so when you are faced with harmful entities, you'll know what to do!

Sort of like here on earth, yes?

What is a drop earring? Sorry, I don't know. What is it you are wanting? To wear a symbol to show that you look beyond the physical? I am not sure. Most symbols go with belief systems. I am not sure of one that is associated with astral projection. Maybe someone else will know. You could probably find something that represents a chakra, but I do not know if you are into energy work. Just get a shirt that says, "I would rather be Astral Projecting". []

Hey MK911...

My experience is that it is glimpses of the astral or views of distant places. You can enter the imagery as it is usually called, or when it is deep enough you can move and have an etheric projection.

Take care.

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Today i went OBE again and i wanted to go to first floor to see can i see my parents there with my astral body (it was daytime). And again it was so hard to fly correctly i lapsed into floor and crashed into seiling when i made out from my room into coridore [|)] then it was so hard to see anything that i serendipitously opened my eyes a bit and projecting stopped.

Hi MK911,

I have never had an OBE, personally.   []

But I remember reading in Robert Bruce's book, Astral Dynamics, that there is a sort of feedback phenomenon that can take place when you look at your body in the face.  He says that it can be very disconcerting.  [xx(]

If you don't have that book yet, then you should definitely check it out.  

In the meantime, perhaps a veteran projecter could add more insight...?

Lasher

What you experienced MK911 was probably a false awakening. That is a dream that appears so lifelike that it is mistaken for being waking reality. Usually a person who has a false awakening does not realize that it is a dream (until maybe later after they wake up).
Check out the 'False Awakened OBE' post on this forum for a report of a similar experience.

Travelling out of body

The 2 books which I've found interesting to help you understand OBE better are:-
1. The Secret of the Soul (Using out of body experiences to Understand Our True Nature) In this remarkable book, William Buhlman, offers the reader a comprehensive guidebook to understand and explore the fascinating phenomenon of OBE. It is filled with engrossign stories beased on the testimonies of people from all over the world, and offering forty new, easy to understand techniques.
2.Travelling with Power (Ken Eagle Feature). It's about Eagle Feather's personal exploration and adventures travelling into dimensions beyond the physical.

Of course you may read those books recommended by The Monroe Institute.

I read in one of robert monroe's books that 4 things pulled him and a few others out of their bodies almost whenever they wanted them to.