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Hi all lucid dreamers and astral projectors,

I tried projecting yesterday using the rope method as a way of exerting pressure on my astral body and i sometimes have trouble from the fear, that i get when Im lying on my back. sometimes i try to project from lying on my side, i never seem to have fear when i am lying on my right side. Does anybody know a technique that will exert pressure on my astral body from lying on my side?

I sometimes feel vertigo when i am on my back and also an increase in focal distance behind my closed eye lids. I am also able to see right through my eyes or even with my eyes open i am able to see through my bed cover which is covering my eyes. I take it that this is astral vision, anwyay i can do this from within 30 seconds from when i turn the lights off at night.

I have been close to having a concious out of body experience, i have been in trance a few times, but i only have had one OBE from within a dream, and about 4-5 lucid dreams.

Please any help much appreciated

Thank you

Great news, i have found a website that teaches you how to use your breathing in order to have an OBE

Now i know here that there are all types of breathing exercises, but this is also worth a look at

http://www.iacworld.org/English/Resources/OBETechniques/OtherOBETechniques/CarbonDioxideTechnique.asp

tell me what you think, it comes froma very scientific point of view and from the International academy of conciousenss.

I read all of the article, and somewhere in the article it describes the most common 6 phenomenonas, and one of them describes my last night experience which was a close experience to coming out conciously, i will write the excerpt below from the website article:

176.05. Covers. The unhealthy habit of people who sleep covering their heads with sheets, which diminishes their capacity of oxygen intake and increases the volume of carbon dioxide in the air surrounding their face and nostrils, can produce, in certain cases, the lucid out-of-body experience.

I sleep with covers ontop of me when i am scared for some reason, and that's not very often, but i never knew when i was young that it can be harmful, so i use to sleep under the covers for many years but now my head sleeps above the cover. I only sleep under the cover when i am trying a concious out of body experience and the reason for this is because in the first 30 seconds of switching the lights out and getting in bed under the cover, i straight away have astral vision. I believe it's one sensation of the lack of oxygen, and because i am very unfit.

Hi everyone,

I had this strange experience, i was in a dream i think, where i was at the supermarket, and i could not find this and that, so i get help from some tv celebritys that happend to be there. When they told me i was looking in the wrong place, for the oranges and lemons.  Then i said to myself 'i know that, it is further down there' also in my head i said 'this is strange, i have worked in this store before' but this store has a different name.  Anyway i was on the checkout and then i was inside a PUB, having a drink and two more celebritys were in my dream, they were arguing about how one of them, this guy, should leave his little brother alone and not fight him, so then there was this escape route, we got away then i am running through like a forest and i get to the back garden of my house, after running up this hill. Then from the supermarket it must of been about 5pm then the pub was at a dark time but at my garden of my house it was about 5am i could see it was just becoming light outside, i saw my windows open and i was calling out to my grandma and my brother they were not answering. Then i got to the front of my house and i saw my front door was open then i got scared because a robber could of broken in. So i called out there names again and then i went inside and shut the door and walked up my stairs. It was very real exactly the same as reality, in my dreams my house is usually looking back to front like reversed.  but not in this dream anyway i walked past my grandmas room and i was looking around and then went down the corridor to my room and i walked to my bed i did not see myself there on the bed, but it was a smooth motion i just went straight into my bed onto my stomach and then boom! my eyes partially opened in the dream and then fully in the pyhsical world and i felt bright and fully awake so i looked at the time on my bedside clock and it was sometime in the morning, so i turned to my side and fell asleep and went into my next dream,  It was only 2 days before this dream where i woke up into the void, from openng my eyes in this dream, i just had felt that i was opening it from a blackness infront of my eyes.  

What does this mean, was this a obe? or am i close to having one,

Every night i lie on my back with the intention of having an obe, sometimes i will get a swirling sensation at my feet, just after a few mins on my back, in this time i would stay very relaxed and use control breathing to get me into a deeply relaxed state.  the way i usually do it, is if no swirling sensations come on after 15 mins on my back, i would call it a night and turn over to my right or left side and sleep and see if i have a vivid dream or a lucid dream.

So i did this yesterday, just like everyday and then i had that strange dream from the description above.

I heard that it deos not matter if you do not have a swirling sensation, you should just keep at it and a obe will happen, but how does that work?  i thought you need to have some sensations.

Also does sleep parlaysis have to happen?

Please help me.  Thank you very much for any help.

Yours honeyjigga

sorry i had some things that are at the bottom

Hi everyone,

Can you please help me, I have this experience in my dreams, where
i see time slows down just like in the matrix movie and i get so excited in the dream, when i dream it feels like i am awake and can control, but i don't think i am lucid in this dream, but it is still so amazing.  I  actually think in my dreams, sometimes i think about what i read on lucid dreaming and i do this all in the dream,

what does this mean

am i lucid dreaming?

anyway last night, i just went to bed turned off the lights and
put my bed cover on me and lyed in bed in the position where my legs are a little bent toward the right side of the bed and my head resting on the pillow and i am lying on my right side.  now my room was pitch black and i closed my eyes and i gazed into that open space till i fell asleep, but i think i was on the onset of sleep anyway my eyes were shut, but i thought what would my room look like in my minds eye with my eyes shut, so i thought about it and then i could see a very vague reprenasation of my room but it was so big and i really felt like i was in the middle of the room on this tiny bed and you see in the pyshical my bed is next to my wall, its to my left and i sleep facing towards the right anyway i really felt like i was in the center and then i felt a smooth kind of sensation and a little tingle i think, the sensation is hard to describe. Then i thought why dont i try to feel down below my bed and i did and it all felt strange kind of like floating, but i did not move at all what does this mean? is my mind just playing with me or was i on my way to a obe or lucid dream, anyway and then in my dream i was looking at a computer with all these dvd movies and i was watching a new version of all these movies that don't exist here in the pyschical, it was like a new matrix movie with keanu reeves but this was way better and time was slowing down, it was that bullet time effect from the movie.  anyway i remeber saying lets not watch it now it will spoil the fun, but lets watch it in the evening or just later because the dream time was like in the day the rooms were bright and dark, anyway then i had some other dreams and i woke up.  

sorry i forgot to mention this last night i was making a barbaque
and i was looking at the stars in the sky and felt amazed at it all
i was looking on and off at the stars for probably 45 mins in total maybe more and when i went to be i focuse on my third eye for about 10seconds thats all, and then i felt all these sensations.


please tell me what are these feelings am i on my way to an out of body experience,

i have had a lucid dream before i think, that lasted 10-15 seconds

and another lucid dream actually before the one above which was even shorter i think.

please help me


thank you

This topic came up before, and my reply can be found there: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8870

The vibrations may feel different to different people. For me, I canonly describe them like this.

Have you ever sat in one of those vibrating chairs?  Or had one of those vibrating pads pushed on your back to massage you?  That's all it feels like...a vibration!

I think people tend to read too much into them.  Just lay down, close your eyes, and go through your relaxation techniques.  First, you may just feel your heart beating.  Try to "feel" thi heart beat in different parts of your body.

This beat is like a mini-vibration in itself.  Usually what I do is that I start to stimulate my energy centers (chakras), which themselves pulsate, and I use this pulsating feeling to try and bring on the vibrations throughout my entire body.

Other times, I don't THINK about them.....I just relax (using any technique available, like the Triangle Technique located under the Permanent Astral Topics forum), and then I try to lock on to an astral image that I see.  This also can bring on the vibes.

But again, for me, they are a numb vibrating feeling....completely harmless and rather relaxing.  Others, who may hold fear in their heart, may experience violent shaking and become terrified.  That is because their fear is making them resist what comes natural to your body every time you go to sleep, and instead of going with the flow, they freak out and stand against the current.

Best of luck!

Well, it sounds like your on the right track, but I think you should give it some more time to really let vibrations and sleep paralasys to kick in. You will know when its time just by the feeling, try and stay conciouss, focused and relaxed as long as possible to make sure you dont jump the gun, its really trial and error from that point on.

I'll be honest, DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THIS!!  Any device that "claims" to enable intant OBEs, lucid dreams or whatever are usually fakes and those companies are just out there to steal your money.  If you want to have an authentic out-of-body experience, you MUST do it the real way.  Any artificial crap like this will certainly not help you.  I'm on the brink of performing a fully-conscious OBE myself and I got there by reading books and articles, NOT by strapping on some "Insta-Luciditizer."

no i have not bought one, but it seems very interesting i will ask my friends if they have seen any posts of peoples experences with these projections. if i hear anything i will write u

Yes, - that was a lucid dream, if you were able to realize "I'm lucid - wow!".  It sounds like you lost your lucidity and it kind of morphed into another dream.  In the 4 or 5 lucid dreams that I've had I found that my degree of lucidity is different - sometimes really aware and other times not quite as clear.  Also, for me anyway the lucidity fades if I don't keep reminding myself that I'm dreaming.  

So the next time you get lucid, immediately ask for "awareness now" and "clarity now".  Do this several times if that's what it takes for it to be totally obvious that you are dreaming and aware of it.

I doubt that the movie had anything to do with you becomming lucid, - but who knows.  Maybe I'll rent it and see what happens!

I had a weird lucid dream once where basically I had a dream within a dream.  I got lucid and realized I was dreaming.  When I woke up I thought "wow - I just had another lucid dream."  But it turned out that I had awakend into another dream because after a little while longer I *really* woke up and realized - "Holy Toledo!, I just had a dream in which I had a lucid dream!"  

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I believe that one should not construct theories based on the lack of data.

OT:
Knowledge can be represented by two things: raw data and some hypothesis. If we have a lot of data, a mind can construct a concise hypothesis that "explains" this data, as well predicts new things. There may be many hypotheses that explain the data. In that case the simpler one is assumed, also known as Occam's Razor principle. However, if we have little data regarding something, it is preferable to keep it this way, since the constructed hypothesis is likely to be bloated, will have weak prediction properties, and will generally be WRONG, even though it may explain the existing data well.

That is why MY theory regarding the OBEs is the following: I DON'T KNOW how they work, and I'm not ashamed to say it.

By the way, a strong argument against "in your head" theory is presented in the following article (thanks to whoever posted the link) http://www.skepticalinvestigations.org/whoswho/vanLommel.htm
According to this article, subjects preserved consciousness during NDEs even though they were temporarily brain-dead at the time.