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I tried it, it was very relaxing and helped me to fall asleep. I didnt have one o.b.e. during the time I used it, which was about every day for 2 weeks. Usually I don't need or use such props but I was going through a "dry spell" and thought it would help me out. I find that it is great when you need to hear that white noise to shut out the sounds of noisy roommates so you can get some sleep! I didnt experiment with any custom presets, just played around with the ones included in the free download.

I like the subconscious. [] I'm using bwgen to train my subconscious to learn some kinds of kineses I think are cool.
Self-Hypnosis. What can't it do.[8D]

Unfortuneately none of us could ever convince anyone that this stuff is real.  You have to experience it yourself.  Like you said there are so many ways to fake these things that no matter what we do someone will always be able to prove that it was "fake".  If you are really interested in figuring out that this stuff IS real, is to practice it yourself until you can achieve results.  I realize to someone that doubts these things are real it seems like a huge waste of time and there is always the chance that nothing will happen.  The trick is to get past this and believe that it is real or else you will never have any success even if you do try.

I saw what looked like a large part of a galaxy, but cant verify it (which part did I see?). I've verified projections were real into the "real time zone" 3 times, so it is possible.

Hi it's me again...
Sorry for the double post but I thought I was gettin' too annoying and I preferred to split the entire mex into two different posts.
Right now I feel two different flows of consciousness hitting my brain: the first is telling me to forget about all these stupids things about astral projection and ESP manifestations...the other tells me to BELIEVE!
I must confess: I'm a little skeptic for all these messages telling about attempted Oobes and ESP powers...but also I feel that something is real and maybe I should just attempt an exit by myself to confirm the whole thing.
And that's the point: I think that my desire for a fast achievement of a projection is stopping me by going further.
How can I made the two things going well together?
I know that speed and quality often collides but when I lay in my bed and for about an hour I continue to feel my hands pressing against the bed and also with all kind of breathing nothing happens I start to think that maybe it's all a big joke made up to make fun of my hopes.
I feel that just lying with my stomach down against the bed let me into a state of complete relaxation...it is possible to have a successful projection or this position make the things worst?
My mind is full of questions but now I have to leave...I'll try again this night...givin' it all the care I have.
Good night,

Havok