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Fellow Travelers,

I have been practicing Astral Projection for about 9 months I guess.  I have been using the alarm clock method to project.   About 4 in the morning the clock goes off, I read for about 30 minutes and then go back to sleep.  About an hour later, the vibrations hit, I roll over and fly out my window.  Once outside my window, the world that I know seems to be ok, but many things are either in the wrong place, or seem to not make sense.  I have ended up at peoples's houses that I haven't seen for years and sometimes just strange things happen.  When I first started this method, the vibrations were like a freight train rushing through my head, but now they are merely a hum or a buzz or just a feeling.  I'm wondering if not having enough energy iis causing weak vibrations and therefor weak journeys? It always starts off as an astral projection, because I am totally aware of what is going on, but then things alway seem to get weird.  Am I  just lucid dreaming, or am I projecting or a combination of both?  The age old question.  

   Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated.

                     Sincerely,

                   Spencer

For me it makes no difference.

Though at first I found if a habitual sleeping-postion was adopted there was a strong urge to fall asleep rather than practice obe'ing. But now it makes absolutely no difference how my physical body is lying, provided it is reasonably comfortable.

Yours,
Frank

Hey man, nice to meet you. First thing

quote:Once outside my window, the world that I know seems to be ok, but many things are either in the wrong place, or seem to not make sense.  

This is perfectly normal around the real time zone because of the fact that reality fluctuates with what is true and what you beleive is true. It was annoying to me the first time around, especially when i entered a neighbors house down the road that i know ACTUALLY lives about a mile from home. i actually thought about going to see him and I was instantly in his house. its all normal.

quote:When I first started this method, the vibrations were like a freight train rushing through my head, but now they are merely a hum or a buzz or just a feeling

The main reason that you barely hear or feel these vibrations anymore is that they have become common and second-nature to you. Your subconcious no longer is startled by these sensations so you don't tune into them much anymore. Experience does this to all of your problems, including skill and fear. Im not a veteran projector and I have only experienced it twice, but I have used these skills and this knowledge in dreams all my life.

quote:It always starts off as an astral projection, because I am totally aware of what is going on, but then things alway seem to get weird. Am I just lucid dreaming, or am I projecting or a combination of both

Since your not staying 100% aware throughout the experience on some occasions, you may possibly be Out of Body but then fade into a dream world because you lose your focus even for a second. I had this happen on my first induced OBE and I damned myself for it. Keep your focus or you will fade into dream worlds or the projection will fail.

Good Luck to you.

Hi!

Just like my experiences.Last time when I was out, I fly
through my window (and it seems very diffucult to go through window,
so much resistance)and there was very many trees and in physical
there is only buildings and only some trees.My vision is too very
poor but last time I made it better (just asked).Im gointo do card
test to proof it myself.It is very funny I dont 100% yet believe
my OBE´s but I know they are true.I come from atheist family so
my "believe system" like that kind of area are very weak.But my OBE´s
always started when I leave my body and ends when I´m back.
I can think very cleary during OBE and that is one reason why part of me stronly believe it.I go some kind of inner war with my self; )


Ville Koistinen

Hello Spencer,

  Something I use regularly is a deck of cards.  Place one card, without looking at it, somewhere at the path you will travel when projected. Like near the window, make sure it's hidden from view so you won't see it from anywhere except when you get to the card. Also make sure where the card sits, there is enough ambient light to see the card.  

The odds of you dreaming the correct card are almost impossible. If you see the card and when you check later it turns out to be wrong, you we're probably dreaming, in my experience, a true OBE will prove to be correct every time, make sure you see the number and suit of the card.  

          Happy Traveling!

     Nightflier...