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Well, this morning, I had a very successful OBE after about a year of trying to get beyond the vibrations and 3D space.
I had decided to try asking 'Guides' for help and for a memorable OBE I can remember afterwards.
What happened was the vibrations came and I had a bit of a 'struggle' to go further and then I found myself in a sort of town centre that had a few other folks wandering around.
I remember trying to fly and succeeding, but then failed at that again. LOL. However, I 'knew' I was having an OBE and this just seemed to be and feel so obvious.

However, I found myself being quite a bit 'negative' and then felt myself phasing as if I was in the physical world trying to start an OBE. Next, I had a sort of false awakening where I woke up in bed and then left to go to the toilet. But outside my room, I realised I wasn't in my room but in a strange house. There was a party going on and people were being quite selfish and untoward to each other.

I went outside and things were even worse and I had to fight off 2 nasty people.

It was an interesting experience. My own thoughts are that I blew the initial experience by being negative minded and so I was automatically shifted down to a location more fitting for me.

As a child I used to have a recurring dream. What I remember of it is there was what I would call a big spaceship that had landed in a field I was in. Loads of people came out who 'someway' looked like me. They told I was part of their 'family' and they'd come to take me home.

Anyone have anything similar to this or reasons as to why I did?

I've had dreams where i seem to have been in a place before. By this, I mean when I'm in the place, I remember that I have been there before in an earlier dream. It's like a sort of 'being home'. I remember that one place was a wood I was walking through, and I remember, (looking back to the dream), that I suddenly remembered that I 'knew' the place well and had been their before in my dreams. There was such an overwhelming feeling of 'knowing' and remembering and recognition.

Another time was with a house I lived in. Another time was me living in a block of flats.

Having read what I have about dreams and OBEs, I'm inclined to think they may be places I've created myself in the Astral realms, but why would I have so many 'homes'? And why would I choose to live in a high rise and use a lift?

Any thoughts?

Am am still a beginner in OBE's, and I have a question.
Has anyone actually met any aliens in any of these Focus realms? If Kepple is correct, then all beings in our 'universe' will be in one of these Focus realms.
I've heard someone mention Greys in the lower reaches of F3, but has anyone seen Nordics? Blue horse people? Any other of the myriad races that must exist?
And what about people from different times? Say people from 3000 BC or 1645 or anyone from the future?
If all time and space is happening at the same time, then F3 must be full of many people from the 'normal' past, present, future, places in the universe?

Ok. first of all let me say I am not slagging off Kepple. It's just that I was re reading his article again the other day and I came across something I didn't understand.

He talks about energy levels and vibrations, saying that those with higher vibrations are attracted to the higher levels and beings and have greater 'freedom'. Yet he also talks about seeing lower beings and energies and to keep away from them.

My issue is: How can we get close to those negative places and entities if our energies are at cross purposes? Surely we would have little contact with each other? I mean, if we can enter their areas but they can't enter higher ones?

Cern is to hold a conference inviting philosophers and religious figures to speak. They aim to find a common ground and to attempt to 'make peace' with detractors of science and attempt to expand their own awareness.
This seems good, at first, and I applaud their efforts.
But, IMHO, whilst this is a positive move, I feel it will only end in tears.

One major thing they want to discuss is the Big Bang.
Whilst they still think in terms of a beginning and an end, of matter and no matter, of this and that, and try to tally it or translate it into a religious context, they are still missing the point and failing to see what really Is.
It's like they think that just because they know how to spell a word, they understand semantics.

Had a very unusual lucid dream t'other night, that was different to my previous ones. Previous ones involved me suddenly realising I was dreaming and could do what I liked. This one, however, involved me more slowly realising I was dreaming, or rather 'awake'. It was just as if I was actually waking up in the morning. I felt myself 'waking up' and becoming conscious. Then I was aware I was in a strange place. I didn't feel there was any need to do a reality check - it was if I just 'knew'.

There was just me. I was in a landscape of different shades of browns. I began to grab at the ground and objects around me to see what it's made of and what other properties it had, but then I felt myself 'falling asleep' and starting to lose consciousness. I panicked that I may lose the lucidness and tried to calm myself and this worked for only a few seconds and then I lost it altogether.

Anyone have experience in being in a similar environment or thoughts on my experience?

The worldwide protests are one aspect of the new coming Age. As this old system of living changes, it has to manifest through evety area of the physical. Governments are one of the barriers that hold us back from change. The protests, or rather the sentiments behind the protests have been building up for decades now as people have evolved and no longer feel the need for governments and the dameage and harm they do, The protests will themselves adapt from being 'anti cuts' to pro a new way of living for us all.

I've been thinking about what Kepple says about Focus 4. If this is all truem then the Focuses can't end at 4. There has to be something further/beyond. The conscioussnesses there didn't seem to know much more? Maybe they are like us back on Earth? Maybe there were some there who did know but were keeping silent.? Maybe there is at least another Focus where Focus 4 is fully understiid. Or maybr each following Focus is similar in the sense of the inhabitants generally don't know about the next one?

What if there's another Focus level missed by kepple and Monroe and everyine else?
Is it possible there is something even more denser and 'physical' than this world?  Maybe there're billions of beings in such a place all wondering about the weird experiences they have when they accidentally drift into Focus 1. Or maybe they enter it somehow through their dream?
Complete poppycock? Or food for thought?

I need you to fix this soon as it is really getting on my nerves. When I log onto the site, all the forums load up and stuff, but it does not make me a cup of tea or give me hot toast, or any toast for that matter. Is anyone else suffering from the same problem or is it just me?

Just come across this on facebook. It;s in Walsall, near Birmingham, UK

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=178870688792339&ref=mf


Time   
Sunday, December 5 at 11:00am - December 14 at 4:00pm
Location   New Art Gallery Walsall
Gallery Square
Walsall, United Kingdom
Created By   
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Come and join us for one hour sleeping sessions, experimenting with Lucid Dreaming in The Cage.

Sunday the 5th and 12th, and Tuesday 14th December 2010
Sessions at 12pm and 2pm
Please come dressed comfortably, at least half an hour before the session.
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We've all had dreams where you wake up and wish you could have done something differently, or that you could go back into it and explore the dreamscape further. In a lucid dream, you are aware that you are dreaming, and have some control over your actions, the direction the narrative takes, and the setting and atmosphere.

Lucid dreaming is an important part of experiencing The Other Place. To develop our skills, we have been experimenting with developing psychic connections and accessing the archaic, group mind. During the lucid dream training we will be building on this by attempting to dream collectively, trying out different methods and making notes and drawings based on this. We will be explaining and preparing for lucid dreaming beforehand, and discussing experiences afterwards.

For more information about how to lucid dream, visit The Other Place blog:

http://theotherplaceportal.net/blog/the-other-place/dreams-the-other-place/am-i-dreaming/

Anyone experienced anything like what I;m about to recount? I remember talking to someone years ago about it and they said something like that happened to them too, but I can't remember who it was!! Doh.

It was back in the late 70's and I was washing up in the kitchen. There was a window to my left where you could see the back garden.
As I was washing up, out the corner of my eye I saw what looked like a ball of rire coming down from the sky and landing in the garden then all the garden was aflame. It only lasted for a split second as when I looked all was normal.

Has anyone seen all the vids on youtube about 'The Matrix'? It's hard to fathom if they are talking about it as a form that is close to the film, or if they are being metaphorical?

I have frequent experience of long term episodes and memory recall along with validation in Focus 1. I find I have been doing this most of my life. It's very easy and you can do it too!
I spend a lot of time there and have met a few people I see regularly. However you have to watch out for negative entities there who will be a drain on you. But most of the people there are nice but not all of them are aware they are in Focus1. I have given up trying to explain it to them because they either laugh, avoid you, or in some cases attack you.

I find I can consume substances called food and this helps me to continue in this state, I surmise it is some type of energy. I can walk around, see things, sit, rum and open and walk through doors; even close them!

This is very interesting because it is a little often overlooked state of mind that is not fully understood.

I've been practicing OBE quite a lot this past week or 2. When I've been trying recently, it's as if I'm having real difficulty getting the same sensations I was getting before. Is this because I need to recharge? Or Cos I'm sort of used to it so I need to take a break? Or both? Or something completely different?

Is anyone presently experimenting with remote viewing? Have you had any substantial verifiable success? What methids do you use?

I always sort of consider myself 'not fully alive' until I was about 4 or 5 years old. I don't have any memories before this particular instance, and it's like I 'became' conscious at this time: I was sitting at the dinner table eating chicken soup and my mom started worrying about a noise in the cumney, which turned out to be a bird trapped in there. My take on this is that the sudden 'distrubance' in my life of 'evertyhing no longer being "normal" or "ok" , sort of 'shocked' me into conscious awareness. Anyone else have a similar viewpoint? Maybe i really didn't exist before that moment, and my 'birth' into this world was that moment? I have seen photos of myself as a baby, but the point I'm making is a fully 'conscious' birth of a being from that moment.

I've always felt this rhyme resonated something different for me than any of the other rhymes, ever since I was a kid. It seems to be a way for the Universe to tell you something important. Anyone else feel this? Or am I slowly going mad?

Where ARE the people who have mastered these techniques? Is it possible these techniques are very hard and the summaries within this forum is as far as practitioners have got so far? Or are there people who have mastered these techniques but no longer recount their experiences in forums like this anymore? Will we too stop posting when we master them?

My friend was telling me about his OBE experience as he was walking down a road many years ago after work. He said he suddenly became aware that 'he' was outside his body watching himself walking. He said that's when he realised he had a bald spot. LOL He watched himself walking and standing at a bus stop and getting on the bus. He said he felt the 'outside' him was the real him. And that there was nothing different about the road or bus and that everything looked as it should. Has anyone experienced anything like this and how does it fit into Kepple's system?

Last night, after about an hour of getting the body shakes and head states trying to OBE, I throw back my bed covers and climb out of bed. I look back and see myself asleep with the covers still on me. I realise then I must be astral travelling and dcide against doing a reality check cos it seems obvious already. I go to my door which is open and has a flask hanging on the handle which both isn't normal. There are 2 large tube-like things in the way I have to climb over and I know they are made of paper mache(?) I feel heavy and sluggish and realise I can't fly.
I go out the door and neet an old woman going up the stairs. I ask her if she's real or a dream character; she says she's real but it doesn't seem so. I walk down the landing which is now the hall and I see a pool of cat wee. I think I want it to disappear and all goes dark. When it gets light again, it's still there but the old woman comes to clean it up. She says it's the cat thing that did it. I see a black cat like thing pulling itself along the floor and I'm suspicious of it as I walk past but then see it's just a black cat.
Then I'm in a kitchen and take note of the time which says nearly 4 o'clock. Then I;m downstairs and I go into a room. I turn the light on but it's still dark. There's nothing in the room, just like the room as normal. I go to the next room and think, "what I need now is a beautiful woman." Then sitting on a chait is this woman. I ask if she's real and she says yes. She tells me her name but I can't remember it now, She says she's from Manchester and I say that's a long way to come. She was watching tv and I see an image on the screen like some octagonal construct that is meant to be like a star gate like on that tv series. It turns out the cat is hers. We both sit on the same chair and get to know each other. She says do I have thread and a needle to repair her button and I say yesm and that reminds me I have buttons on my coat to sew on too. Then my dad come in, (who dies a couple of years ago), and I ask him if he's real or a dream character. He says he's real and just come back from the bookies and shows me the little blue pen her got from there. The woman tells me not to be rude to my dad. Then she says it's time for her to go and as she's going out the door I ask her if I can have a quick word with her. I'm outside the door talking to her as I become aware I'm lying in bed and have now woken up.

A very interesting experience that I would love to think was an OBE, but there were many dreamlike /LD aspects to it. All my previous LDs were very short and quite jerky in a way. So what do you folks think? Was this a Focus 2 or Focus 3 from Kepple's 4-Focus system?

Below is a link to a brief outline of GrandMaster Taoist Chee Soo. It mentions his uniques avilities at what modern Western science would classify as "impossible." I myself had direct experience with him and felt his energy myself. Ialso witnessed him pushing someone over from a distance of about 20 feet just using his Chi energy. The article mentions some amazing facets about him.

http://www.patrickkellytaiji.com/TEACHERS/OTHERTEACHERS/cheesoo.html

This morning, whilst trying to have an OBE, I had a new experience. I've been having my body feel sort of tingly, then still and quiet, for a while now, and having seeing the blackness and then psychedelic patterns, but this morning my body felt more still and quiet and then after the patterns I saw like uniform mottles of blue. It's almost as if I knew I was just about to exit, but then my breathing got too erratic or strong and I came out of it and back to normal.
Does this sound like I was about to exit?

I always find my breathing distracts me from losing myself so to speak, and so I try to calm my breathing so it's almost unnoticeable that I am breathing in terms of my stomach rising up and down.

Just had a suden thought: Given that a lot of people believe that astral travel and dreaming are pretty much the same thing, and that you can astral travel from out of a lucid dream, then has anyone been able to enter a dream or LD whilst starting off by astral travelling?

Anyone know anything about her? I've listened to some of her vids on youtube and even though they sound good, something just doesn't ring true about her. Anyone else have any opinions?

Why can't I upload my avatar? The function is there but after it says it wasn't saved?

Watching lots of Utube vids about messages from greys and other aliens, why do you think people do this? Do they believe it themselves or just seeing how many of us believe it? Or do they just do it to sell their books?

I find it hard there are races of 'psychic' aliens out there who still need physical ships to move in.
Or am I just an old cynic?

It'd be interesting if we were more multi lingual and could peruse foreign forums like this to see if anyone there has any new insights. I wish I'd studied French more at school! :\

Or so you think they'd be just like this forum?

Anyone tried practicing their martial art during an LD? If so, what was it like?
I practice Tai Chi in real life and aim to try it during an LD and see what difference there is.
I did try it once in my first experience and went through a few moves, but then got caught up in other things happening.

Anyone tried practicing their martial art during an OBE? If so, what was it like?
I practice Tai Chi in real life and aim to try it during an OBE and see what difference there is.

One of the reasons I want to have OBE''s is so I can look into bodies and examine Chi energy, the meridians and the Tan T'iens. Has anyone tried this?

Are there any Taoists here? What do you make of all this?

Is it possible to move objects whilst having an OBE? Like, in terns of you OBE in your bedroom...can you move pieces of paper? Or move a pen to write on the paper? Or type into your computer? LOL You could even post something on here whilst having an OBE?

What is the difference? I thought they were the same?

Since preactising trying to lucid dream for a few months, I may have had some success. I had 3 lucid dreams over 2 consecutive nights. But now I doubt they were really lucid dreams. Maybe I want them for longer and to be more lucid? It can be confusing trying to analyse them in this 'normal' mode of reality. But I'm gonna keep trying.

The only time I can remember having an OBE was when I was about 12 or 13. I woke up one morning and thought I have to get up and ready for school. I was lying on my back in bed and sat up, but as I sat up I didn't stop, so to speak and foind myself rolling over and over. I opened my eyes and was facing the opposite side of my room facing the corner right up at the celing. I thought, "I don't want to be here." and turned round and saw my body still in bed. I freaked out and shot back into my body.

I'm now trying to have another OBE using relaxation techniques, but no luck yet.

Hi,

Thought I should introduce myself. I;m interested in lucid dreaming and astral travel. I began about somethime in June or July and had no success so far. Although I MAY have had 3 lucid dreams lasr week, but then again they may have just been noemal dreams. I'm hoping to find some likeminded people here with a serious study of these topics,