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Here are some charts for us to use in our progress. Use them well...

http://www.cezyl.com/OBEs/Distance_Number_OBE_Success_Chart.jpg

http://www.cezyl.com/OBEs/Lucid_Dream_Success_Chart.jpg

http://www.cezyl.com/OBEs/HN_Avg_Percent_Shift.jpg

http://www.cezyl.com/OBEs/HD_Shifting_Success.jpg

Connect the dots!

Cezyl

The coming article is in response to a post at the OBERF.org forums here:

http://www.nderf.org/forum/messages/9/328.html

Enjoy...
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WHY I INVESTIGATE OBE

Do I really think, know, or believe it's real...

by Cezyl
http://www.cezyl.com

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Hey dear Russell G...

THANK YOU for your thoughtful post Russell G, for looking out for the best of me.

I see that 'obe1989' does conclude OBEs are lucid dreams. I must also look towards the evidence that they are really out-of-body experiences. Robert Monroe's book, Journeys Out of the Body, has several verified OBEs reported in it. I have had several OBEs with minor details validated, several if not all listed in two posts here:

http://www.nderf.org/forum/messages/9/324.html

http://www.nderf.org/forum/messages/9/248.html

Of course the thought crosses my mind, what if OBEs are not real. When I sit down and look at the results at hand, there are many projectors producing no evidence, and a few producing solid evidence, such as Robert Monroe, Louis Ruiz, Albert Taylor, Sylvan Muldoon, Bruce Moen, Padre Pio, and I'm sure the list goes on.

Robert Monroe had several verified OBEs, confirming the dress of those present, who was there, their look, and in one experience even leaving a physical mark on a person present.

Louis Ruiz has had several verified OBEs, some involving several people in many different situations, i.e., occurring over a relatively substantial period of time, and validating a string of different actions. One of the verified OBEs involved me. It was enough for me to know something is going on. I remember dreamily seeing and talking with him, wearing my unusual mode of astral dress that I created for myself. I mentioned nothing of the experience to him. How was he able to open the phone call with that he saw me OBE the night before, that we had a discussion but I looked dreamy, and also describe what I was wearing? If OBE is not going on, SOMETHING is going on that produces verifiable and accurate perceptions at a distance, as if we are in a nonphysical form. And whatever is happening shows the ability to affect physical matter at a distance both in tandem and not in tandem with the movements of that nonphysical form.

Albert Taylor has had several verified OBEs, including people present, their mode of dress, and the layout of the area, both inside and outside. The person being visited in one of his verified experiences remembers seeing him in a dream, I think seeing him at the foot of her bed where he was standing. He got all the details of her physical environment right, and she had a dream of him coinciding with the visit. I have run across several other case histories, where a projector made it to a sleeping target, and the target remembers the projector in a dream. Louis had such an experience- most likely several, but I have read one.

If I remember right, it was Sylvan Muldoon who saw his wife-to-be during an OBE, someone he'd never seen before. I'll research this and get specifics, and post it in this, what has become an article, on my website.

Bruce Moen had several confirmed OBEs with a lady named in the book 'Rebecca', including total verification of what was said, done, etc., involving several people, and several actions and activities. The experiences he's had of this nature cover the span of FOUR books.

Several witnesses have seen Padre Pio in two places at once, for instance praying in one place, and administering to the dying in another. Some say this is a strong OBE.

Now there are people who are NOT having solid experiences. Why? One thing I see about those who ARE having solid and undeniably verified out-of-body experiences are that they are OBSESSED with OBE. They MASTER it. I don't know how often obe1989 practices or what not. Maybe he can reply and tell us. Maybe he was addicted at one time. Perhaps he's not addicted now because he found no definite personal evidence yet. Suffice it to say that the above-mentioned projectors seem to be at it hardcore, or were at the time, developing, evolving, fine-tuning, etc. Perhaps I will find that the EXPLANATION of 'out-of-body experience' is not ACCURATE to EXPLAIN what IS going on, but I am convinced that SOMETHING is going on, and I will find out what, and I will share it with everyone.

The answers to these questions and occurrences hold keys to the entire structure and make-up of human existence- either what it is, or what it isn't. Either way, this direction I must traverse, and with absolute clarity and with definite plainness I must determine its outcome, whether for or against. To know which way TO go is for me just as important as knowing which way NOT to go.

Someone once asked me at work, what if this is all fake, how long have you been into it, as if to say, are you wasting your time. I told him 20 years. (My first experience was when I was 4 or 5). Is it worth it? Yes. Now I'm able to get out here-now (traditional 'ghost in the physical world' OBE) minimum once per week, though I am still mostly stuck in my room. My skills are improving exponentially now. I'll be able to do proof-positive or proof-negative experiments soon, and I'm not afraid to. You see them being set up already, as the PartneredOBE project and The_Astral_Realm group, and these and others will grow and progress.

You are not the first person who has asked me to deliver verbal proof, referring to your keen post in the 'Simple and Easy AP Techniques' thread. I extended to them the same offer I extended to you, practice and let us experiment and find out. Someway, somehow, evidenced by the above experimenters, accurate and verifiable experiences are possible! Remember, in one experience Monroe was PERCIEVED by a medium physically present in the room. This was confirmed. Someway, somehow, others can perceive this 'perception' of leaving the body. Padre Pio has been SEEN and documented as being seen in more than place at once. I perceived a projector enter my room. What is going on?

Thank you for sharing your observations on me. You have observed in me my thirst for knowledge, and my zeal for sharing it. You can be certain that if I find that the OBE is nonsense, that knowledge will be clearly available to the world, just as will any and all further knowledge I gain of its reality.

I follow my heart, desire, guidance, and curiosity, and I trust that I am going in the right direction. I say that the definite proof that OBE is nonsense would be just as important to the world as the definite proof that it is valid. MANY people's eyes could be turned towards something more productive through my efforts if I clearly find this all to be nonsense, whereas perhaps only my eyes would turn away from it were I to stop now.

All the evidence pointing TOWARDS the out-of-body experience being a reality is too great for me to turn my back on. The above shared is only a sampling. I suggest everyone PRACTICE and RESEARCH. It seems that for the time being I'll have to turn my back on something. I won't turn my back on the evidence for OBE, but on the words against it. The words are just that. The sciences on the brain and physiology are just that. At one point science thought that the atom was a solid, unbreakable, indivisible ball. Now we are going further and further into the minute components of the atom, into quantum particles and waves of information with quantum physics. I don't presume that the sciences that pick apart the brain can be ultimate authorities on what is possible, not any more than the sciences that once said atoms are solid unbreakable little balls.

And as for the projectors like obe1989 that are not getting verifiable experiences and deem OBE to be lucid dreams. He is not the first I have interacted with. Are they practicing as hard? Are they sharpening their skills? Are they as determined, intent, and dedicated as those above that have gathered for themselves absolute evidence? Are they 'exiting the body' in the same sense that Robert Monroe and Louis Ruiz do? I don't know. I can only know with me, and I am full-time. I am dedicated. If there is undeniable reality here I guarantee you it will not escape me. If there is undeniable evidence here I guarantee you that you will know about it.

As for all the things saying OBE is fake, like some scientists have found a part of the brain they can activate to cause what the experiencer reports as a matching many if not all characteristics of an OBE. Perhaps tapping or triggering certain areas of the brain can produce the perception of an OBE. Perhaps because the structure of the brain is generally the same for all of us, some quirk of the brain is causing these related 'hallucinatory' experiences across the human population, including throughout time, including reports of the tunnels, and the higher selves, and the Akashic Records, and the layout of the afterlife, and the structure of the nonphysical forms/bodies, and the list goes on. Perhaps. I am not studied in brain physiology and stuff, so I can't strongly comment on that. And even if I WAS strongly versed on today's physical body sciences, are the present day sciences still calling an atom a solid tiny ball, but now in the realm of consciousness and being? I CAN say that whatever waits on this end of the research, on the end that is in the paint, the end that is experiencing, I will find it, and I will report it.

I can't just overlook the definite findings made by so many distant projectors. Projectors in different countries, throughout different times, are finding the same things. The higher self for instance. I went to see the higher self, drew it, and later saw an illustration nearly completely matching the one I made of the higher self. I went to The Library on Focus 27, as labeled by Robert Monroe, and later saw an illustration that was so in line with my perceptions that it was as if we stood in the same spot, he facing a 90-degree angle or so from the angle I was facing. The list goes on. Does some 'all brains are generally the same' explanation explain it all? I don't know. But SOMETHING is going on. I believe it is the definite leaving or separation of consciousness and one or various nonphysical forms from the physical body, and the above evidence and more points to this.

The evidence FOR it cannot be denied, at least not by me. There is belief on my part of course, for I still have not for myself acquired definite personal evidence. I have hints and absolute clues, but I can't say I did this and that and it's just absolutely enough to for me to explain it all and overcome all objections. Thus I am still practicing OBE, and training others to OBE, and we will either be pioneers that redirect certain portions of humanity from going off a cliff, or pioneers that help cement into this society one of the greatest directions and discoveries in the history of this overly materialistic world.

Perhaps we are attaching the evidence inaccurately. Perhaps it's some type of psychic phenomena for instance. But the evidence of validation stands, I say. And if it is psychic phenomena, how does THAT work? What are these vibrations causing communication through time and space, unaided by man's precious metal and wire technology? SOMETHING is going on? What?

I hope to give hope to those who are seeking, and to state my definite intent to personally verify what is going on, and to share my findings with everyone.

Peace.

Cezyl

[Plane / Wide-Expanse / Checkered Field Experiences of Any Type...]

Plane / Wide-Expanse / Checkered Field Experiences of Any Type...

Hello all...

Please describe in detail any OBE experiences you have had involving seeing or floating over a wide or endless checkered plane, a flat endless expanse, a flat patterned field, etc. Especially of interest are those experiences you've had before you heard of seeing or experiencing wide checkered planes or fields while OBE. Still ALL experiences are requested and accepted. How did the experience start? How did you come about seeing the plane? How did the plane look and feel? What was experienced while there at the plane, and afterwards? Did you enter the plane, or exit it??

I'm really fascinated with this and thus I am doing some research on it. I intend to write a comprehensive article on it in the future, organizing and sharing all I learn on plane / checkered field / flat expanses and OBE. EVERY ENTRY is important. EVERY DETAIL is important. When I get good enough at OBE I'll explore these things myself and report on it.

Take care...

Cezyl

Hello all...

Please describe in detail any OBE experiences you have had involving moving through a tube or tunnel. Especially of interest are those experiences you've had before you heard of tubes/tunnels being experienced while OBE. Still ALL experiences are requested and accepted. How did the experience start? How did you come about being in the tube? How did the tunnel look and feel? What was experienced while in the tube, and afterwards?

I'm really fascinated with this and thus I am doing some research on it. I intend to write a comprehensive article on it in the future, organizing and sharing all I learn on tubes/tunnels and OBE. EVERY ENTRY is important. EVERY DETAIL is important. When I get good enough at OBE I'll explore these things myself and report on it.

Take care...

Cezyl

[Cezyl]

Saturday when practicing I experienced a stronger real-time sight than ever. I was doing energy work and I went to scratch my face as the energy flow customarily causes an itch, and I was able to see my arm through my eyelids as I went to scratch. It looked like a bright area against the backdrop of my speckled 'screen' (the area behind my eyelids).

Last night I saw many faces, as if my screen was a plastic film, and different beings were pushing their faces into it from the other side, pushing in towards me so I could see the impressions of their faces. Some were yawning, some menacing, some smiling or average. It was cool...

I'm doing several practices today. I'm starting to experience a nonph hand, one or the other of them, seeming to jump out of my physical hand and then jump right back in. It happens so quickly.

Any of you ever experience this? I'd like some input on others' experiences with the jumping hands...

Peace.

Cezyl

Something I will (OK, may- fear) experiment with more is ACCEPTING help and guidance more with OBE. I get the idea from 'Reconnective Healing', where angels, spririts, and many things like colors and lights are seen during the healing, suggesting that the healing happens with much help, and to great benefit.

Barbara Brennan heals with the help of guides and angels and such. Moving my ego out of the way, this seems like a very beneficial thing for OBE too. Monroe said he had his greatest when he let the greater self do the driving. But what if 'they' go where 'I' don't want to. Trust.

Thank you for sharing...

Cezyl

[***Simple and Effective Astral Projection Sequence***]

For those of you wanting, here's an easy one that works for the higher dimensionals easy...

***Simple and Effective Astral Projection Sequence***

4-2 Meditation-Relaxation Technique

This is a technique that can help your ability to astral project. I have used it successfully numerous times. Also, if you do it long enough and with enough focus and relaxation, it can get you at the threshold of astral projecting, and also it get you astrally projected. *Practice* and let the technique teach you. Sit or lay down comfortably. Relax.

1) You inhale to the count of 4...

2) You hold your lungs full to the count of 2...

3) You exhale to the count of 4...

4) You hold your lungs empty to the count of 2...

Repeat it as long as necessary to get into a deep state, or as long as desired. Your inner self may signal you when you have done enough for your purposes, so listen inward.


Simple and Effective Relaxation Sequence

You can do this before or after doing the 4-2 meditation for best projective results.

1) Take an inhale and imagine all the tension in your body

2) Take an exhale, and imagine and feel all of the tension releasing

3) Continue this sequence going until at each exhale, you are relaxing more and more, all the tension and stress melting off of you

If you practice this closely, you'll learn how you can modulate your muscles as you exhale to help relaxation. Just wiggle your muscles a bit as you relax, as if you are wiggling your hands out of a glove.


Astral Shifting Technique

A great and simple technique for projecting onto astral and higher dimensions is to visualize a place, whether you are creating it in the moment, it's a place you've dreamt about, or an area you've heard or read about as existing on the astral or higher, like 'The Park'. Sticking with the same area for a while may help you. You may want to practice this technique after doing one or both the 4-2 meditation technique and relaxation technique. It is effective at any time and any place, even without preparation. Visualize the area of choice and in your imagination interact and move around, holding this as you go to sleep or in your meditation. You'll gradually shift there and succeed.

Enjoy!!
Cezyl

In trance and practicing spinning like Robert Bruce teaches with point-shift and the such I found that I was able to spin myself much more consistently when I used my arms to spin me- my 'awareness arms', rather than my mind alone. Try that out. I'll update you...

Cezyl

[Cezyl]

Hey Tombo and those like Tombo (just anyone and everyone) looking for inspiration, here is the place of meeting for Ember and I, the Kansas State Capital Building in Topeka, Kansas. Anyone else who wants to get there all's welcome. Watch the news for a sudden surge of ghost sightings there.  







*runs* *RUNS* FLY!!! No!! Watch out!! Up!! UP!! ::CRASH::      

*runs* *runs* *RUNS* Lift-off!! GO!! GO!!   FLY!! YEAH!!!

*wipes brow*

Cezyl

P.S.
THANK YOU KODEMASTER!!! THE PICTURE LIVES!!! MWahaahaaa!!!

[Partnered OBE Validation Investigation Experimentation]

Partnered OBE Validation Investigation Experimentation
Version 1.2 (Composite Version 1.1) To be updated...
By Darryl Berry

Outline last updated 1/21/05

Introduction
ALL SKILL LEVELS DIVE IN. The outline is still in the works, an ongoing project. I'd love to hear about your successes, triumphs, experiments, and any ideas, comments, and updates you have for the experimentation and experiment outline. Any questions you have about the experimental outline and the workings of the experiment send them in. I check this email every Friday night. Enjoy...

Intents:
·        To master all forms of out-of-body exploration and interdimensional travel

·        To work together with one or more people to accelerate OBE skill development, fun, and help develop a critical mass of growth on this planet

·        To gather 'evidential data' on OBE states (Robert Monroe, Sylvan Muldoon)

o    Individual growth and understanding

o    Universal growth and understanding

o    Fun, friendship, and inspiration!!

Preparation
1.      Find one or more partners vibrantly interested in OBE attainment to practice with

a.    Online OBE message boards, forums, and newsgroups

b.   Book stores, book clubs, metaphysical discussion groups

c.    Anyone interested in OBE

2.      Together decide whether you will meet in the here-now/physical world or higher dimensional

a.    Stick with the chosen dimension for only as long as it interests you... stay in the moment for added enthusiasm!!

b.   Whether here-now or higher dimensional, stick with the chosen location for only as long as it interests you... stay in the moment for added enthusiasm!!

Here-Now/Physical World Basic Goals
1.      Travel to your partner's location, or to the physical world destination of choice

a.    First develop the out-of-body state- ask for assistance if necessary or desired (Rosalind McKnight/Cosmic, Bruce Moen)

b.   After detaching from your physical body move slowly yet deliberately away from your physical body by at least 20 feet

c.    Develop a strong and clear here-now out-of-body state before doing anything else, by developing 100% full clarity and awareness (affirm that you are out-of-body, state your name, address, etc., stand tall and spin around, taking in your environment, intend and affirm full awareness and clarity!!)

d.   Take a quick examination of your nonphysical form and note details of its makeup

e.    Deliberately move outside of your home, apartment, or from wherever you are to outside

f.     Turn around in a circle while feeling for the direction of your partner or the target destination (or proceed there if you know the location)

g.    When the direction is found fly in that direction, intent to make it to your partner or to the destination, expectant to know when you get there

2.      Assist your partner in getting out-of-the-body (if goal is partner's home)

a.    Reach your partner's physical world base and make it to their body

b.   If your partner is still in-body note details of their surroundings, dress, etc.

c.    If your partner is sleeping and/or partially OBE, assist your partner in getting out of the body

d.   If your partner is OBE, assist your partner in gaining 100% full clarity and awareness if your partner is hazy or unaware (Do back flips, scream their name, and any other thing to get their attention if they are sleepy, dreamy, or unaware)

e.    Be fully aware that your partner will be assisting you out-of-the-body, and allow any assistance

3.      Gather and exchange verifiable information with your partner while out-of-body, early on picking only one or two things to work with per trip

a.    Physical world location and setting, surrounding environment, building type and size if any, time and weather conditions, etc.

b.   Any individuals present, actions and words expressed, clothing observed during visit, appearance of partner, etc.

c.    Phone numbers, house/apartment number, independently chosen buzz word, favorite pet's name, mode of dress of all present, occurrences, etc.

4.      Return to your respective physical bodies after gathering and exchanging information

5.      Journal in detail and in full the entire occurrence

6.      Be aware of all dreams and any inklings of out-of-body encounters with your partner, and note any occurrence of seeing or being aware of your partner in dreams or experiences in any way, especially those resembling your partners physical world environment

7.      Swap with partner your completed journal entries of success

8.      Compare notes and have fun!!!

Higher Dimensional Basics
1.      Determine a nonphysical place at which to meet


a.    The Park (Robert Monroe/Journeys, Preston Dennett/Out-of-Body)

b.   Akashic Records

c.    Astral Pulse Island (www.astralpulse.com/locale/)

d.   Imagined or created place

e.    Any experienced or researched nonphysical area or place

2.      Be aware of all dreams and any inklings of out-of-body encounters with your partner, and note any occurrence of seeing or being aware of your partner in dreams or experiences in any way, especially those dealing with the chosen higher dimensional meeting area

3.      Upon going to sleep, during practice, or in meditation, imagine and intend to go to the area of choice (or directly to your partner or group where they are in the higher dimensional)

4.      Develop a strong and clear state of mind before doing anything else upon reaching the destination, by developing 100% full clarity and awareness (affirm that you are out-of-body, state your name, address, etc., spin around and take in your environment, intend and affirm full awareness and clarity!!)

5.      Look for your partner, they can be anywhere around

a.    Feel, look, listen, etc.

b.   Call for your partner, intend to see them, or for them to come to you

c.    These things also help them out and to the destination spot

6.      Assist your partner in developing a strong state upon meeting with your partner

a.    Ensure that both of you are clear, aware, and with clarity

b.   Do back flips, scream their name, and any other thing to get their attention if they are sleepy, dreamy, or unaware

7.      Gather and exchange verifiable information with your partner while out-of-body

a.    Physical world location and setting, surrounding environment, building type and size if any, time and weather conditions, etc.

b.   Any individuals present during experience, actions and words expressed, clothing observed during visit, appearance of partner, etc.

c.    Phone numbers, house/apartment number, independently chosen buzz word, favorite pet's name, mode of dress of all present, etc.

8.      Return to your respective physical bodies after exchanging and gathering information

9.      Journal in detail and in full the entire occurrence

10.  Swap with partner your completed journal entries of success

11.  Compare notes and have fun!!!

Heightened Goals
After completing both the above basic goals of here-now and higher dimensional travel, try:

1.                    Independently targeting here-now/physical world places and happenings to swap and compare independent reports

a.    The moon

b.   Vacation spots

c.    Movie theatres

d.   Etc.

2.                    Independently targeting higher dimensional places and happenings to swap and compare independent reports

a.    Akashic records

b.   The Park

c.    Higher Self level

d.   Etc.

3.                    To mutually/simultaneously target here-now and higher dimensional places for interaction, fun, and joint exploration

a.    Fun and companionship

b.   Joint and group exploration

c.    Further validation and independent journal cross-referencing for accuracy testing and skill refinement

4.                    Collaborate with three or more projectors for added validation, experience, experimentation, and fun!

5.                    Meet and interact with beings you meet in the out-of-body

6.                    Develop physical world friends from out-of-body met acquaintances!!

Tips
1.      Have a mutually clearly defined goal, and clearly defined things to validate (Robert Bruce/Dynamics) for effeciency, ease of execution, and economic use of energy

2.      Repeat steps for developing 100% clear awareness if awareness and clarity ever slack, to retain clarity and to extend the experience

3.      Stay in the moment- take breaks when needed, swap partners if desirable, switch locations as desired... keep it fresh!!

4.      Communicate via phone (unless phone number is something to be swapped and validated), chat, email, letter, in person, etc., and discuss the experiment often, to foster and accelerate connection and success

5.      Allow, accept, and even request assistance from your guides, guidance, your partner, and any helpful beings and spirits (your assistance may grab a wrist and pull, try to ram your out of body by flying into you trying to boost you out, etc.)

6.      Be persistent and persevere- success may not be immediate, but still success is inevitable!

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www.cezyl.com/OBEs/partneredobe.htm
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This is a thread in which to post the OBEs you've verified for yourself, and also those that you know of that have been verified. It's time for us to focus more on the 'hows' and the 'evidences' of these things. In the words of Captain Picard of the Enterprise...

"Let's see what's out there."

. . .

I suggest this format: two asterisks (**) then experience in brief. For instance...

** In my first experience where I walked through the walls to the kitchen and found it still lighted inside the walls, an occurrence later verified through my reading. I then saw what my mom was doing in the kitchen and verified it to my satisfaction.

** I saw Louis OBE one time. We had a conversation. I wasn't fully aware and was dazed, but knowing Louis I knew he would be fully aware and clear. I decided before sleep to dress myself in an unusual fashion. Talking to Louis the next day I didn't bring it up at all. I waited for him to for my verification, for I knew he knew fully. He volunteered that we met and had a conversation OBE, and he told me the unusual apparel I was wearing. It verified more so the OBE itself, my ability, and Louis' immaculate OBE ability.

** Robert Monroe visited two friends of his, and confirmed their whereabouts, dress, and actions. It was a couple, the husband supposed to be in bed sick. In contrast to his expectations, Robert Monroe found the couple outside, on the way somewhere. He confirmed their unexpected whereabouts, their clothing, and the time of the occurrence, as well as the general lay of the land in the area around their home.

** Robert Monroe was very skeptical of a medium, which reportedly had two guides helping her, a deceased husband and an Indian if I remember right. Monroe was very skeptical, for their answers to his questions were very vague. He was ushered out-of-body to a séance of hers by two nonphysical beings fitting the descriptions of her guides. Not only did Monroe verify who was there and what they were wearing, including confirming people he hadn't seen before and clothing he'd never seen those he knew wear before. Robert Monroe confirmed things that were said there, AND the medium confirmed Monroe's visit, making direct reference to him WHILE HE WAS IN THE ROOM in the out-of-body state, apparently able to perceive his nonphysical presence. Monroe took it upon himself to sit in a chair, and one of the incoming visitors unknowingly went to sit where Monroe was invisibly sitting, and the medium announced this causing much laughter, all confirmed by Monroe on investigation with the medium later.

** Most amazing to me, Robert Monroe went to visit a friend on vacation, and found her in an unexpected location with two people he'd never seen before. He confirmed the people with the lady friend, their dress, and not only this. He chose to mark the occasion and pinched the lady, the lady letting out a shriek of pain. He not only later confirmed the location and the people that were her, who were I think her nieces, and their dress and hair color and such, BUT ALSO THE LADY SHOWED HIM A BRUISE, RIGHT WHERE HE PINCHED HER.

** Albert Taylor was very skeptical of OBE. He went to a metaphysccal class and the teacher explained paralysis and told him he was experiencing OBE. He challenged it, and she told him next time he experienced paralysis to come to her and see. He experienced it every night so told her he'd go that night. He did and verified the sleeping arrangements of her and her husband, which was unusual, what she was wearing, the make out of the house, etc., all of which was confirmed. She also stated she had a dream of him at the foot of her bed, which is where he was standing upon entering.

Cezyl

Skeptic Food
By Cezyl, Copyright © 2004 by Cezyl (Darryl E Berry Jr)
Sunday, August 22, 2004
cezyl@cezyl.com

Introduction

This article is both in response to the wealth of negative or skeptical information and presentation abounding and in support of those true seeker here progressing. It is amazing to find, as I read metaphysical material, that this bend of focus is not new at all. Not only is it old, but also the same arguments are put forth over and over again. Reading the great book The Facts of Psychic Science and Philosophy by A. Campbell Holms I see that he dedicates several pages of the book to skeptics and their rants, and state two of their most favored arguments against psychic phenomenon: deceit or misperception. These are the same two arguments presented to me, that the 'would be' experiencers are lying, or that the 'would be' experiencer is thinking they are seeing or doing something but are not, be it do to hallucination or some kind of flaw in perception. Back to the 19th and 20th centuries this has been going on, this throe of skeptic people butting their heads in psychic researchers' and experimenters' affairs, spouting negativity and put-downs. It is so amazing. This is not new.
It brings to mind the writings of both David Icke and Stuart Wilde. Both point out malevolent forces that are attempting to offset our growth in one way or another. Are these skeptics, knowingly or unknowingly, being influenced by or working in concert with these malevolent forces? Is there a definite attempt so slow our growth and progression down? Why put so much effort into throwing skepticism into someone's boat? Why, on a forum or newsgroup dedicated to out-of-body travel, are there people who don't believe that out-of-body travel is real who are throwing that opinion onto the people there? Really think about that? What do they hope to accomplish, to gain? What really? Why not let us be and mind his or her business? Or, if they are deep down inside wondering if (or even scared that) it is real, why not honestly voice that opinion? Most likely as Sanaya Roman and Orin suggest, it is a cry for love, an expression of pain and fear. Love them.
We have never (overtly) asked for skeptics to come, and several times I've seen people strongly ask the skeptic to leave. Why do they stay in an environment not suited to them and not wanting them? What is there for them to gain? Something must be a motivator there. If it's to 'enlighten' those who 'believe' in such stuff, at the point in which the 'unenlightened' voice they are not interested in what the skeptic has to say, the skeptic, if the true intent was to enlighten, I presume would leave. So why remain? Love them. It can only be a cry for love, according to the works of Roman and others. It's like a child that constantly interrupts you once you get on the telephone or are watching TV. They feel ignored, or perhaps you are giving the TV more attention than them. Their lack of strength in self-love causes them to need to feel that all your attention is going to them to feel loved. Or they need to feel that you are taking away from other things you need to do in order to give love and attention to them in order for them to feel loved. Do not the skeptic seem to want to start big arguments and such, or cause big debates? Do not they persistently point at the phenomenon you are experiencing or researching trying to poke holes in it?
I see several points in skepticism that I shall touch upon now, that are proposed by the skeptic of phenomenon they are perhaps afraid to admit or accept, or unknowledgeable or 'too knowledgeable' enough to accept or admit as possible, for instance:

Extraterrestrial Life

It is amazing the repetition of things. Reading X3, Healing, Entities, and Aliens by Adrian Dvir I see that he has run into several of the same refutation by skeptics as far as ET civilizations go, such as supposed 'distance barriers' like the speed of light and supposed insurmountable light-year distances. The idea or prospect that the distance to other stars systems and galaxies are too far for any extraterrestrial civilization to make it to us is a PERCEPTION based upon OUR range of travel and OUR range of knowledge and understanding. And how could it be anything else? In other words, to a race of beings whose furthest overt manned venture has been to the moon, of course traveling several light years away would seem a massive undertaking. We can't get to the outer planets of THIS solar system, or at least, such technology is not being publicly announced. Who knows what the governments have in their backyards (or underground bases).
Consider this. Hundreds of years ago going just to cross the continent was a massive venture. Here in the USA people took weeks or months to traverse from one coast to the other, needing caravans of horse pulled buggies and so forth. To such a person, it must have seemed impossible to think that someone could traverse the same distance in HOURS, not to mention by traveling THROUGH THE AIR in a metal capsule with fire shooting out towards its back. But today we CAN traverse across the continent in hours with airplanes. So back then traveling from point A to point B seemed very intimidating, whereas the same distance is but a plane ride and bag of peanuts away now. NOW. Another example. Back in New Orleans (I've recently moved to Kentucky) my workmates looked aghast at how I would ride my bicycle to work and back home. "All that distance? That far??? You want to put your bike in my trunk??" It seemed they were about to faint just at the thought. But to me that distance is a piece of cake. It's all perspective. To someone who hasn't been on a bicycle in years, or who is used to driving everywhere, according to his or her PERSPECTIVE the distance of 5 miles on a bicycle could seem limitless. But to someone used to bicycle riding, even comfortable with riding 30 miles in one sitting, a 5 mile distance could be a piece of cake. For a baby to crawl to the corner is a giant leap, but a grown man can walk down the block with ease. Do you get my point? It's all perspective. It's all perception.
To this present race, in our present development, intergalactic travel may SEEM impossible. But to a race of beings hundreds or even THOUSANDS of years ahead of us in development, such distances can be to them analogous to the distance of a plane ride compared to the horse pulled buggies of old on this planet. Not to mention the fact that such beings could have the ability to transcend time-space and travel in hyperspace or in the form of hyper-physical matter, and then tune back down at their destination. In reference to the horse and buggy and plane analogy of earth, such beings could be thinking, "Remember when we on our planet used those big fuel propelled rocket type things trying to travel space." I have personally perceived the interdimensional manifestation of a UFO. Thus I am confident through first hand observation that at least some beings have the ability to take their craft and their bodies through dimensions. I have perceived craft move from one horizon to the other in seconds. SECONDS. And would there even BE a speed limit to a craft taken out of the physical dimension? Is there REALLY a speed limit in the physical dimension? It has been found that subatomic particles can resonate with no time lag, thus some kind of interdimensionally interfaced form of travel could potentially surpass any 21st CENTURY EARTH HUMAN **PERCEIVED** time and distance so-perceived 'limits' of physical matter and distance/light-speed 'barriers', and even those are only perceptions due to our level of development at the time. Wasn't and isn't the speed of sound called the sound 'barrier'? Read The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot to learn more of the non-locality of the finer things, for I am no master of the subject, though I know enough to put pieces of the puzzle together. We'll touch more on this later.

Out-of-Body Travel

The same 'hallucination or lie' theory is put forth for the out-of-body experience. Also is detailed questioning, such as, if while out-of-body you are nonphysical and thus can't see physical light, what are you seeing. ALSO is the admonition that there is no evidence for the reality of the out-of-body experience (OBE). First off, there is confirmation of objectivity. Secondly, not knowing how something works doesn't negate its workings. And as for their being no evidence of the reality of OBE and different dimensions and such, that's simply untrue. There is much empirical evidence for the reality of the out-of-body experience, EMPIRICAL evidence, which is more than what evidence on which we accept perhaps the majority of things in our lives. The skeptics seem to be ignoring this, or not wanting YOU to know this.
Firstly, a great example of empirical evidence for the OBE is the works of Robert Monroe, in particular his first book Journeys Out of the Body. In that book he has several confirmed experiences of a high nature, which I shall briefly outline.
Robert Monroe visited two friends of his, and confirmed their whereabouts, dress, and actions. It was a couple, the husband supposed to be in bed sick. In contrast to his expectations, Robert Monroe found the couple outside, on the way somewhere. He confirmed their unexpected whereabouts, their clothing, and the time of the occurrence, as well as the general lay of the land in the area around their home.
Robert Monroe was very skeptical of a medium, which reportedly had two guides helping her, a deceased husband and an Indian if I remember right. Monroe was very skeptical, for their answers to his questions were very vague. He was ushered out-of-body to a séance of hers by two nonphysical beings fitting the descriptions of her guides. Not only did Monroe verify who was there and what they were wearing, including confirming people he hadn't seen before and clothing he'd never seen those he knew wear before. Robert Monroe confirmed things that were said there, AND the medium confirmed Monroe's visit, making direct reference to him WHILE HE WAS IN THE ROOM in the out-of-body state, apparently able to perceive his nonphysical presence. Monroe took it upon himself to sit in a chair, and one of the incoming visitors unknowingly went to sit where Monroe was invisibly sitting, and the medium announced this causing much laughter, all confirmed by Monroe on investigation with the medium later.
Most amazing to me, Robert Monroe went to visit a friend on vacation, and found her in an unexpected location with two people he'd never seen before. He confirmed the people with the lady friend, their dress, and not only this. He chose to mark the occasion and pinched the lady, the lady letting out a shriek of pain. He not only later confirmed the location and the people that were her, who were I think her nieces, and their dress and hair color and such, BUT ALSO THE LADY SHOWED HIM A BRUISE, RIGHT WHERE HE PINCHED HER.
The above is more evidence than has been presented for many things we accept as being true and factual. For instance, how do you know that South America exists, or that the pyramids exist? Think about it, or other things that you 'know' from second or third hand sources, but that you don't really 'know' in the strict way many skeptics profess is the only 'knowing'. Why don't the skeptics present such stark skepticism to things like that? Perhaps locations are not the best example, but I'm sure you can find other examples of what I mean. How do you know that planet Pluto exists for instance? We accept so many things on far, far less evidence than the above.
As far as detailed questioning, it is not necessary to know every detail of the workings of something for it to work, or to be able to work it. How many of us know how our cars work, or how airplanes work? What causes the proper translation of the radio signal into the words and music we hear from our radio? How do microchips work? How does the operation system of your computer work? If I gave you all the parts for a car, could you put it together? I don't know of a skeptic who refuses to use an airplane, and who refuses to believe in the reality of airplanes, because they don't know every working of airplanes. Sure airplanes are visible in the air, and so are OBEs prominently occurring around the world, as they have been since time immemorial.
I've taught people to get out of their bodies by sharing simple techniques with them. One person I told him to simply focus on his heart as he went to sleep. They guy was new to the subject, did no to very little reading on the subject, but got out in a few weeks. There is a person in a foreign country who hasn't read a single book on OBE, but who applied some techniques I taught him and got out in a few weeks. He may not know the full workings and background of OBE, or have a firm theory behind it, but dammit he's doing it! So much we take for granted with so little detail of their working.
I may not know what happens to the air at the destination that one teleports to, or what happens to the space at the origin from whence one teleported from. I may not know how OBE perception works, or the specific mechanics of how I healed myself of asthma by will for example. I may not be able to explain how that UFO materialized out of 'nothing', but I saw it, and I have the missing time to prove it. This may not hold up in court for instance, but I know what I saw, I saw what I saw, and I know what time it was when I reached the destination and when I got home. An hour and a half of my life is 'inexplicably' missing. Even Robert Monroe may not have been able to explain the details of many of the things asked of the OBE by skeptics, yet his experiences stand as they do. They are what they are. My computer is typing and getting this out to you, though how the processing system works is unfathomable to me.

This is not open to debate, and we don't know it all

This is not open to debate. Any call for debate or email about this will simply be sidestepped or deleted. This is my present and henceforth stance on skepticism. I am writing this for those of us who are courageous enough to embrace that there just may be something greater than our knowledge, wisdom, and understanding can presently bring to bear. It is amazing the audacity and ego of skepticism. For instance, to say that the distance from here to the next galaxy is too far for an extraterrestrial civilization to travel is arrogance. To make such a statement assumes that the full range and properties of matter, time, space, speed, etc., is known. Think about it. How can any of us make a definite statement about what is too far to travel in the universe? Do we really know that much about time and space? Only centuries or less ago we were saying that the earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth! Already now we have full knowledge and understanding of what is possible in this vast universe? Objects have been FILMED doing maneuvers that surpass our knowledge of physics and aerodynamics. I have seen such maneuvers first hand. Look and you can see too.
Skeptics assume they know it all, or in their pain or fear they must present such a face, or by whatever motivation they want to instill fear and doubt in others. It may be scary to not have the belief of knowing it all, to face the unknown fully, or to face something or some being greater in ability and knowledge than us. I understand. Yet it is a big step in growth to say that, there may be something in existence beyond my knowledge. There may be more than what I know. This planet just may not yet wield complete knowledge of the properties of space, time, and matter. There just may be a civilization in existence with knowledge of space and time that is beyond our own. I ascertain that, both individually and collectively, more exists than the whole of both our knowledge and understanding. Broader exists than the whole of our perspectives. Deeper exists than the whole of our wisdom. To say that interstellar travel is impossible is to assume to know all there is to know about interstellar travel or its possibility. I have seen no indication of such knowledge in any skeptic, and I can THINK OUTSIDE OF SUCH SMALL PARAMETERS AND POSSIBILITIES, as evidenced by the above. Remember the horse and buggy to plane analogy. The horse and buggy is only centuries behind us. What may be possible for a civilization a thousands years ahead of us???

Keep going!!

Again, this is not open to debate. I am finding that debate is futile, for our great intellects can intellectualize for or against anything ad infinitum. Why waste energy arguing and debating with skeptics. Henceforth I just ignore them or sidestep them and their comments, and use their skepticism as food to have more drive and determination to succeed in my growth and development.
This article is for the true seekers on this planet, who are seeking to understand and expand. Keep going. Don't stop. The skeptic in his or her persistent and cold negativity and frivolous questioning does present a potent request of attention. Yet from this moment forth there is no more need to spend time on frivolities with skeptics. From now on spend your time and energy developing, evolving. If skepticism assails you I suggest that you keep this article close by and read it to empower you. Then read and continue to read the works of those who are in the paint. Look into the works of Robert Monroe, Stuart Wilde, Mary Summer Rain, Samael Aun Weor, David Icke, Bob Frissell, Carlos Castaneda, Adrian Dvir, Riley Martin, Joseph McMoneagle, Paul Dong, Waldo Vieira, Jane Roberts, and others. The list goes on. Focus on how people ARE going out-of-body, teleporting, shifting dimensions, psychically functioning, shape shifting, seeing, filming, and even riding in alien craft, interacting with extraterrestrials, psychically healing self and others, and so many other things that there is much evidence for, and THAT ARE HAPPENING, THAT WE CAN DO, though the consensus of earth may not be ready to bear it yet.
We are the trailblazers. We are open to accepting that perhaps we DON'T have all the answers. Perhaps we never will. But how can we ever get to the answers while assuming that we already know them all? This in one way explains the closed-mindedness of skepticism. Skepticism has its place, or it wouldn't exist. But what place do we append to it. One I suggest is that analogous to a carrot dangling before a horse. Let not their skepticism slow you don't, or cause you to expend needless energy on pondering the frivolous. Instead let it strengthen you. Run harder. Let it propel you. Look at their skepticism from the outside, not internalizing it at all. And then let their skepticism cause you to look even more closely at the experiences and works of those in the DO, such as Robert Monroe, and Louis Ruiz. Then run even faster and stronger than ever before. Their skepticism is such fuel to me now.
Study the works of those in the DO. Robert Monroe's works, in particular his first book Journeys, is great for examples of empirical and confirmed out-of-body experiences. And there are several works out there with confirmed experiences. Look at Soul Traveler by Albert Taylor, who has had several OBEs with confirmation of people, places, things, and locations. I have had confirming OBEs. Bruce Moen has had many confirming OBEs. And then seek to experience and explore for yourself. SEEK TO CONFIRM FOR YOURSELF THESE THINGS. SEEK TO DEVELOP IN YOU THE ABILITY TO GO OUT-OF-BODY, TELEPORT, SELF-HEAL, BE TELEKINETIC, ETC. WE CAN DO IT. What you focus on you manifest. Focus on the best. Focus on the possibilities. And then fly free and manifest the infinite. When all of us can for instance get out of body and fly around and individually and collectively confirm OBE at will, what a world it will be. Focus on THAT. We can start that process now. Go forth and be. Go forth and fly free.

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CezylGroup's OBE/Astral Tutorial Pt 4


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Projection Sequence: Getting Out


Generally you can do what I call a 'projection sequence', where you form the exercises into a sequence of exercises that progressively get you deeper. For instance:



1- Sit down and meditate 4-2 until entranced

2- Remain sitting and do energy work

3- Lie down and do relaxation into sleep with awareness until at transition

4- Focus on, play with, and move the transition phenomenon

5- When deep enough relax and move away form your physical body



Here is a great example of this:



Arms Through the Floor
Day 5
Session 8
Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 7:25 AM
Projection Journal 1
I started off sleepy, and intent to go deeply- with the notion to go all the way to projection. All of this was boiling strongly inside me. I intended to do the basic core exercises of this week, consisting of focusing on the second hand of the clock for a minute, meditating 4-2 until 'ready,' and relaxation, experimenting only after completing my core exercises. It is a matter of course now that during relaxation I get visions- with the potential of getting vibes at the start. My concentration practice has improved greatly. I went to meditation, again going nearly straight to sitting in trance rather than doing the 4-2 first. I seem to be magnetized to trance.

I did the 4-2 and then sat in trance. While sitting in a trance I decided to do energy work. I activated my feet, and then I drew energy up to my crown via my root charka and spine. I started on the main chakras but ended due to impatience. I brought some energy up my spine and looped it around completely one time and then down my front to the storage center once or twice. I drew some energy up my spine and around and straight to the storage about five times.

After meditation I laid down for relaxation. It was great. I entered a good deep state quickly. Sleepiness made it much easier. I entered trance and the vibrations started. They felt like bubbly, full-body vibrations. I strobed and did the ring exercise (making the vibrations into a ring around your body, and then moving the ring up and down). I quickly reached a state of lassitude. I turned onto my stomach, my face on my left cheek. Either as I went to the mat for relaxation, or as I turned around, I took a glance at the clock. It was 8:10 AM.

I again relaxed to some imagery. I focused on this, intent on allowing it to deepen. It did. It got stronger and clearer. I was seeing into a room of sorts. I was looking on as my vision scanned the room. It was a large room filled with so much pottery and ceramics and vases, with some furniture too. It was almost like a pottery store without the price tags.

I slipped into a dream. I was in the kitchen, like yesterday. Mom and her friend R. were there. I was sitting on a stool by the center counter. I was watching what they had on TV. There were several women in bikinis with a wrap around themselves, very sexually revealing their g-string bottoms for the guy in the scene. One would be there revealing, then the scene would change to another female, etc.

I was wearing a pair of my thin sleepwear pants, and I was becoming erect and it was showing more and more by the second. So as not to be embarrassed -and to masturbate- I moved to my room. As I walked to my room I saw what looked exactly like a Victoria's Secrets catalog I have, but it was huge and in the center of the hallway before the entranceway of the living room. I thought that I mistakenly left it out, but the size of the magazine and the fact that it was the middle part of another catalogue let me know it wasn't mine, and I had no reason to be embarrassed. J

I assume that I next entered my room, though I don't remember doing so. I just suddenly realized that I was in my room. At leaving the kitchen I thought of putting on an adult DVD. As I walked into my room the iron was there, and on, and smelled and looked burnt and burning. It was catching fire from being on too long. I'd forgotten it on, as I have physically done before. There was a box in the center of the length of the cord. This box had an on and off switch, and I was dumbfounded as to why I didn't notice that on the iron before, as it would have been easier to use that to turn the thing off, I thought. This dream, by the way, was more vivid than any ordinary dream.

I seemed to be sitting on the floor. There was this vacuum cleaner, shaped like a gas-motored grass blower, in about the center of the room. East of that was something else that I'll call a 'grinder'. It had these metal, spiked 'balls' on the end, attached as if to spin individually while the entire front part turned, turning all three of these already rotating 'balls'. It seemed to be for grinding. It was something like a miniature tunnel boring machine.

I took the iron control box and stuck it in between the grinder and the blower, causing intense heat from friction, as the grinder was on, and the blower had some action to it also. The blower caught on fire and disintegrated in a most peculiar way. The back or engine side of it caught on fire first, but rather than flames it sort of smoldered away. If you've seen the vampire movie Blade and noticed how the vampires burn to death when being cut by his sword you know what I mean.

The smoldering moved up the blower, disintegrating the blower to dust as it went. The thing is, the dust still had glowing embers in it, and I feared the carpet would set on fire. My mind was racing with the thought to get some water, but I was immobile. I wasn't paralyzed- or rather it didn't feel that way. I was just immobile. (Notice that the occurrences of being in paralysis, and of falling into a movie theater like dream experience, are both reoccurring themes in my experiences, and two of the trademarks of my projection positive states.) It was as if my legs were tied into the Zen meditation position, and I was powerless to move- not that I actively tried to free my state.

I watched as the grinder caught on fire, and then disintegrated, in exactly the same way as the blower. I just knew the house would catch on fire, for the embers where on the carpet and as much as I thought of and even visualized water pouring on the stuff, I still stayed put.

Something to the left about where my chair is caught my attention. I saw a sort of cauldron or round vase with something in it burning fiercely. It had some symbols or designs around the mid section of it. I feared it would set something on fire too. I then thought of the house having burned down, and I was seeing my mom in the middle of what looked to be a warehouse with only the frame standing. It locations seemed as if trying to be the result of the fire here, as my mother looked sadly and in mourning as if it was her house, standing inside the perimeter of the remains. But the size of what I was able to see, and the steel beams it had for supports, gave it away as another site all together- as did the scenery that was easily visible behind the site, being that all the walls were gone. This was more like watching a movie up close, rather than being in a dream.

I then thought of the burning equipment and my room, and the result as presented by this vision of the warehouse. The incongruity alerted me to my true situation of having fallen into a dream. For a moment I relished the thought of the concreteness and deliciousness of the dream. Then I thought of my nonphysical body and displacing.

After thinking to separate and displace, and putting all of my attention on my body awareness, my screen turned into a collage of ambiguous color. I paid it no mind though, and focused inward and downward to my body and how it felt and was. It was apparent to me that I was in my astral body. As I paid more attention to my astral body I noticed that the collage of colors that was once in my face seemed farther away. At first they were nearly filling my screen, as if I was but a few feet away from the movie theater screen but looking to the side of the movie screen. It ended up being a small collage of color off to the side and away, amid a big, empty void- like deep space without the stars.

I first thought to move my etheric arms. I started sliding my arms up, thinking, "please, please, please..." as if to say, "please stay separate and let me go!" My etheric arms had this electric quality to them, that I assume is because I had to have been dragging them through the floor. I was on my stomach, and that is that only possibility given the angle I was bringing them up at. I was moving them very slowly, and I could feel the tension I was causing because of my nervousness and my strong fear of ruining the experience.  

I notice that as I moved my etheric arms the astral environment took on a kind of 'spacious' feeling. I seem to have been partway between astral and etheric, and it was like when I started etherically moving the astral space around me expanded to fill this 'void' area, and I was astrally in the center of this void. The imagery that was once at my face was still a concentrated collage of color off to the side and far away- almost like a colorful medium sized star. I could see it as sort of a colorful area in this big void. Yet though I was in this void, I was still in this room, lying on the floor on my stomach, bringing my etheric forearm through he floor.

I got my hands up to about my lower abdomen, and I must have just snapped back because the next thing I know my arms seemed to have disappeared. I could no longer feel or perceive my etheric arms, and I could no longer feel my physical arms for the depth of the trance. Yet I knew they were where I left them. I had re-coincided. I decided to end this experiment, knowing next time to move wholly and gently, in a calm and relaxed manner, knowing that when I am etherically projected, I am etherically projected, so there. J



Afterthoughts:



What was that void exactly? (4/2/03)

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Any other techniques you find or create you can add into the mix, or switch around in the sequence, etc. The progressive sequence has really helped me though. Some techniques I've found that helped are focusing on your heartbeat, imagining pulling a rope, and visualizing walking around your home. Be creative.



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CezylGroup's OBE/Astral Tutorial Pt 3


By Cezyl (DEBJR)



Copyright © 2004 Cezyl (Darryl E. Berry Jr.)

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OBE Overview


-         Progressively get deeper

-         Note progress

-         Intend to succeed



Progression


There is a quite definite progression of states when going out of the body, and when getting back in the body. These states have been discovered to relate to distinct brain wave states, and these brain wave states have been called beta (waking), alpha (relaxation), theta (light sleep), and delta (deep sleep). The state equivalent to the out-of-body state is delta, so that can be the primary goal of the would-be proficient projector, to be able to consciously reach delta at will. Consciously reaching theta is reaching the hypnogogic state, where you may experience seeing lights and scenes as if behind your eyelids, experience vibrations or paralysis, or see through your eyelids. Reaching deep theta is enough to get out of body. Consciously reaching delta is consciously reaching the OBE state. Delta is OBE.

I have divided these four states in to different gates. Remember that each gate is passed through each time one goes out of the body, and each time one gets back in the body. That is because these gates relate to the brain wave states, each brain wave state relating to a different state of consciousness as mentioned above. In this way practice can be looked at as a conscious progression through each state, with the intent being to reach the out-of-body state, yet with due attention given to each of the states. Each of the states is an adventure in their own right, and the more attention given to all of them the more easily can be the mastery of delta.



Gate 1
Core Skills
·        Relaxation (alpha)

·        Energy work

·        Meditation

·        Supportive Belief System

·        Dreaming

·        Awareness

·        Concentration



The first four of the core skills of gate one, relaxation, energy work, meditation, and a supportive belief system, have been given in Tutorial Pt 2.1. Be sure to practice and delve into these as often and as deeply as possible. Here we shall add the remaining three:



Dreaming- Practice keeping a detailed daily dream journal. When you finish sleeping make some dream notes, and make sure to do this consistently each morning after you finish sleeping. Make it a point to remember your dreams. Give your dreams due importance.



Awareness- Practice being aware by not allowing yourself to drift at any time. If you are talking with someone, listen to what they are saying. Even if you daydream, do it consciously. Realize that you are daydreaming because you want to, but don't allow yourself to be swept away in thought haphazardly, like a ship without a sail.



Century Count Concentration Exercise- Sit comfortably and close your eyes and count to 100. Know that counting to one hundred will only take a certain amount of time, no matter how long or short of a time, for one hundred is a finite number. Therefore allow yourself to put ALL of your attention on only the numbers (and the silence between them), on unerringly and focusedly counting to 100. Practice this at least once per day.



Between this file and Pt 2.1 are the core exercises. I believe that anyone can master projection using these exercises alone. As you progress and as you seek the ability to project anytime anywhere you may want to make it a point to practice 'anytime relaxation', relaxation at times apart from sleep, listed as an optional exercise in Pt 2.1.



Gate 2
·        Trance Meditation (theta)

·        Morph (Stuart Wilde)



By consistently practicing the core exercises you will begin reaching a point in your meditations, anytime relaxations, and relaxation w/sleep exercises where you start to see flashes, lights, scenes, faces, hear voices, feel vibrations, and/or have some other type of transition state phenomenon occurring. This is the state of theta, halfway in and halfway out of the body. You will also start to remember your dreams more and more. You are on your way.

You don't have to get all they way to delta to get out of body though. When you are in deep theta, at the borderland of theta and delta, you can move and leave your physical body behind. When the phenomenon you are experiencing gets deep and strong, you can relax and move with the intent to move without the physical body, effectively leaving the physical body behind. Here is an exercise to help you with getting out of the body through theta:



Transition State Phenomenon Focus: Focus on and encourage the transition state phenomenon you experience. Whether vibrations, imagery, voices, or whatever you experience, focus on it and encourage it; creatively play around with it even. Allow the phenomenon to deepen. As the transitions state phenomenon gets deeper you are getting deeper into theta, which means you are getting closer to delta. At a certain point of deepening you will reach the borderline of theta and delta, and can then relax and move away from your physical body.



Gate 3
·        Deep Trance (delta)



By continued practice of the core exercises you will start to naturally go consciously to and through the hypnagogic state of theta and into delta, and then experience the separation phenomenon of delta. An arm or a leg may jerk, a nonphysical arm or leg may start to float up into the air, or sink into the floor. You may start to spin or lift into the air, or feel yourself being touched or grabbed. Here are some tips to help you through delta:



·        Go back, continue, then move



If an arm sinks or floats up and you snap back into your physical body before taking advantage of it, simply go back to and continue whatever it was you were doing that brought on the separation. This time prepare yourself for the separation and be intent to go with it. Move away from your physical body when you notice the next separation.



·        Relax



By relaxing you allow yourself to calm down and make an easier transition from theta to delta. Thus instead of an arm jumping out and startling you, causing you to redock with your physical body just as quickly, an arm may slowly float up into the air, and you will nonchalantly become aware of an arm floating and know that you are free to move away from your physical body.  

At the point of reaching delta (deep trance) you can move away from your physical body and practice the next of the three parts of Gate 3, here-now travel:



·        OBE here-now travel



Practice moving around your neighborhood, around the city, around the country, etc. Experiment. Explore. Have fun. We will have some individual and group games, exercises, and tasks to play with and accomplish when enough people reach this level of proficiency. We will also have some individual and group games, exercises, and tasks along the way to help everyone reach this level of proficiency. Thus practice heartily and plentifully, and deeply and truly, and keep good journals of what you do, and keep everyone posted as best you can.





The third and final part of gate three is traveling through time, which we shall delve more into in a future tutorial. Gate four entails the mastery of traveling into outer space (while staying within this galaxy), and the mastery of traveling out-of-body interdimensionally from here-now to the astral plane, and to and through any areas intervening here-now and the astral. Gate five entails traveling outside of this galaxy and beyond, and to planes higher than the astral plane. These shall also be delved into in future tutorials. First is the reaching of aspect two of gate three, here-now out-of-body travel.



Working the Gates
I see three basic ways in which you can work the gates, laterally, vertically, and by combination of these two.

You can work them laterally. For example, you can spend one week, 30 minutes per day, working on gate one, spending week two working on and exploring gate two, and so on. You can work the gates vertically, which is to go through all the gates in one sitting. For instance, in each practice session you can take all the time it may take, even if it takes several hours, going through all the gates/states, from beta, through alpha and theta, and concluding in delta. This is eventually how it always is of course, but for the novice it can take a long time to get out from scratch in one sitting. It can, but it doesn't have to, and it can be quick and easy for you. But be aware of the possibilities. And you can work in various blends of combinations of lateral and vertical.

Essentially all three ways are gradual and progressive, and thus take patience. Remember to practice the basics to build a solid foundation of strength. You learn the intricacies of the art through practice. I wish you the best.



Cezyl


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Hey all...

I didn't want to slip the link in the tutorial, so here is a promo ready for the deleting if it is unacceptable on any forum.  

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CezylGroup/


I've started a group that is already helping me out:

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I laid down about 40 minutes ago and started to relax into sleep,
after developing the intent that I would succeed and deciding who I
would catch (See tutorial one). I decided I would catch my good
friend Manuel (*fiendish grin*) and I would move ahead so no newbie
can catch me. Mwahaa! I laid down and relax into sleep as in the
Tutorial 2, and some light vibrations started. I made myself aware
of the vibrations and relaxed into them, and let them be and just
went with it. I started to get imagery. It was like I was suddenly
standing elsewhere amongst some people, outside somewhere, perhaps
next to a forest. This brings evidence for the notion that the
nonphysical bodies are already on their respective dimensions, and
we just become aware in them, or that projection can happen already
before you know it (think Robert Bruce mind-split theory).

I kept relaxing and going deeper into it, though I can't say if I
was specifically relaxing into sleep, or the vibrations, or both.
Let the feeling move you. I kept having this experience of suddenly
being in another place visually, like all encompassing and 3D
imagery, and then I was in something of a void period I'd say. Next
thing I know I had a major repercussion. My left arm felt like it
was falling, and it was very sudden. This made me go to `catch' my
arm, like it was falling onto the floor or something, so I lifted my
arm quickly and my physical arm popped up off the mat/blanket. I had
a separation of at least the arm. :>

I also forgot to brush and floss my teeth, so I knew I would have to
get up and do this. Knowing this helped me to remain aware, for it
was something to remain aware for. If I fell asleep I would not be
able to clean my teeth, and it would be seriously bothering me.

Cezyl
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I have a series of tutorials to help, composing several ideas and tricks to get everyone going. You'll be able to find the tutorials on this forum, and they will continue to be shared freely so you don't have to join just to get the tutorials. I hope this little promo is OK, and I hope I can help people with this group, as you are greatly helping me with your presence.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CezylGroup/

Cheers.

Cezyl

[OBE Overview]

OBE Overview

-         Practice and patience works

-         Experiment and explore

-         Study and research



Exercises

4-2 Meditation- Sit down comfortably, and inhale to the count of four, and then hold to the count of two, and then exhale to the count of four, and then hold to the count of 2, repeat. The more you do this meditation, the deeper you get with it each time. It's progressive. Each time you get deeper. Just let it flow. The meditation itself will teach you what to do. Amongst other times it is good to practice this at night before sleep/projection practice.



Relax into sleep with awareness- Relax as you go to sleep, and intend to remain aware as you go to sleep, to see what happens as you go to sleep. Observe and note everything that happens as you go to sleep, and relax very deeply. Move as needed to remain comfortable.



Energy working- Do daily energy working exercises. You can see the NEW system on www.astralpulse.com for tips and techniques on energy working.



Anytime relaxation (optional)- At any time apart from sleep spend time relaxing your body as completely as possible, seeking out and releasing every bit of tension in the self, physical, mental, and spiritual. Develop the ability to positively relax at will.



Belief Systems-

1 OBE is natural and easy.

2 OBE is simply consciously getting into a deep enough state of sleep, what I call state acquisition.

3 Know that you can OBE, consciously and easily, no ifs ands or buts about it, you can. Don't believe you can do it, know you can do it, and know that every one else leaves their body too! You have the natural ability to project, and it's there whenever you need it, if you let yourself have it!!!

4 Be enthusiastic about projection. Really want it, read about it, practice, practice, and more practice, etc. The more that effort is put into it the more that results are gotten out of your efforts!

5 Have some support from one or more friends, at least in the beginning. Join a forum or group, study and build together with a school friend or a sibling, get a chat buddy or phone/pen pal to discuss it with, etc. Support and mutually inspire, encourage, and build.

6 Know that you have experienced out of body exploration before, and several times at that. Have you ever experienced the vibrations, paralysis, the falling sensations, body parts snapping back in, or any other transition state phenomenon? Do you remember any OBEs from childhood? You have experienced it, and you can too! Remember that you have already, and you still can!

7 It's no big deal. You can do it. Everyone does at it sleep! Don't let the ego or the intellect get in the way. It's no big deal; it's natural and easy. Let it flow.

8 Practice and make progress, and keep your support partner or group updated!



Tailor make- remember to add, subtract, or adlib as needed, as this is a guide





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Does anyone have any articles that they've saved from previous version of my site that they can send me. I'm working on collecting them all and forming them into a book, and in case I am missing any, which I am pretty sure I am, it would help if you all sent them back so I can collate them.  

Any help appreciated. Send them here:

cezyl@cezyl.com

You can paste the whole thing into the email, or send a Word or wordpad file, or whatever the case may be, as long as it is the complete article with header.

Take care.

Cezyl

Does anyone have any articles that they've saved from previous version of my site that they can send me. I'm working on collecting them all and forming them into a book, and in case I am missing any, which I am pretty sure I am, it would help if you all sent them back so I can collate them.  

Any help appreciated. Send them here:

cezyl@cezyl.com

You can paste the whole thing into the email, or send a Word or wordpad file, or whatever the case may be, as long as it is the complete article with header.

Take care.

Cezyl

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Hey Swaroop...

Would you please share a bit on your lucid dream experiences into these pictures, how you do it and what it is like?

Cezyl

[Cezyl]

An Acknowledgement Here...

5/8/2004 7:30 PM

If my ego not weight my hand down too much I'd like to get something else out. Notwithstanding the ever classic works of Robert Monroe, I have found three very potent works: Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce, Matrix V by The Author, and Astral Travel (and correspondence course) by Yvonne and Gavin Frost. These works are by people who base things on experience, either experience alone, or research with a very hefty load of experience.

ASTRAL DYNAMICS

One of the reasons why I thwarted and sometimes bashed the works of Robert Bruce and these others is EGO. It was competition. I even looked askance at the reliability of his experience, or the supposed breadth of his experience, and most probably because of the fickle and presumptuous nature of my experience and boasting. It certainly seems his experiences matches his mouthpiece.

MATRIX 5

This dude is another boasting the crucible of experience behind his works. Again I looked askance, competition, but I see the potency of his work also. Dude certainly seems to have ego, which I could probably see so clearly for the size of my own. But dude certainly seems to have the experience to back it up.

ASTRAL TRAVEL

This book Astral Travel by Yvonne and Gavin Frost is different from any before and since it for at least one particular reason. It is not based upon the experience of ONE individual, but well over a thousand. They projected and taught to project, and the combined data and experiences of all of these individuals are combined to form this book and its techniques. Both the Church and School of Wicca and the Canterbury Institute in England combined forces to bring about this thing. Potency indeed.

Where to go from here...

I am taking these three potent works and studying them. I no longer wish to compete, but to learn and to grow, to SINCERELY grow, very deeply so, and perhaps to help others along as I go. After running it through my mind I firmly believe that I can read ANYTHING, yet still clear my mind enough to see reality as it is, should that be necessary. Perhaps my fear of seeing was not fear of finding something new and alien; though part of the reason, but also of CONFIRMING what these folks are saying. That would mean I'm behind, in the rears, or to the ego that is what it means. Would I get swallowed up into their works, or into their teachings or methodologies and ideologies? Would I be overshadowed?

Well. Reality is what it is, and thus perceived will be what it is. That is the premise I am going on. I'll study so closely and vibe off of their potency and their vie for experience, and LEARN what they have SO DEARLY to teach. Hopefully it will help carry me along. Hopefully my release of all the dead weight I was carrying is enough to set me free.

So long...

Cezyl

Ok, That is just plain neat.

Hello there Cezyl, nice to hear from you once again. Love the article on in-and-out of body experiences []. I am heavily interested in AP and have been trying my hardest for, lets see...7 months to date![] I really want to master this as badly as you do, though Im only 13 (going on 14 in October), Ive made it my goal in life to become a highly successful astral traveller. Ive made a few discoveries about myself in the past few days which greatly improved my confidince in OBE and in myself. Ive also realized the simplicity of astral projection which will help me a ton. Im willing to help you in anyway I can, and I would like for you to also help me along. Ive added you to my AIM buddy list and I look foward to talking with you soon.
Much love unto everyone!
[]

Update:

Two days ago I peeled out a bit, a few inches. The other day I separated my nonphysical body by remote control kind of and had it going up and down, and then I projected myself as consciousness (without physical and without nonphysical body) to the apartment office about a half a block away. I am getting better. I shall make it!

Cezyl

Don't generalize all the skeptics. Also, don't equate skepticism with close mindedness. That's simply not the case.

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It's a fact that most (not all, but most) of the stuff in NewAge literature can't be validated in any way, so the reader either believes it or not. It's also a fact that every moron nowadays can write a book, and most of them actually do. Plus, some of them contradict each other, which is confusing for the reader. S

Because of that, skepticism IS a useful and valid tool. It's nice that _you_ can believe something that's written down, but don't think that everyone can turn off his/her common sense so easily (thank god that not everyone can do that).

Being open minded is good, I agree, but being open minded doesn't mean to "accept everything as truth," just because it's written somewhere or because it sounds nice or plausible. "Just because something is written down doesn't mean it's true." I hope you know that. That goes for the books you mentioned too, btw.

You say that incredible stuff like teleportation, telekinesis, shapeshifting etc. is real, so this must mean _you_ can do this stuff or _know_ someone who can. So go and prove it to the world ... but I know you won't do that, and I know you'd come up with cheap excuses when asked "Why not?". Or, you'd simply say "I don't have to prove anything". That's true, you don't have to, but if you don't can or want to prove it, don't make such claims. It just makes you look really stupid.

People can write books about these stuff, but if they are asked to do it in a controlled environment they will either fail or simply won't do it for some ridiculous reason. Am I the only one who thinks that's strange? I hope not.

Whatever. BTW: Crossposting is EVIL.

I would like to hear what you have to say about mirrors. I've found that I can see myself in mirror but that they may affect energy in unforeseen ways.

I did a reality test in an OBE by willing my finger to elogate out and into a mirror. When my finger went in it felt tingly and then the room went noticibly darker.

Originally the room was pretty bright, but when my finger went in, the edges of the mirror became darker like there was a sphere of light illuminating only the middle, and the sphere was centered in my chest.

Have you tried walking through an astral mirror or found that it affects your energy?

quote:Originally posted by Cezyl

Hey all. I KNEW I found the essence, and I am being confirmed. I've had 2 out-of-the-body experiences in last 4 days, after three weeks of practice of my Travel Far and Tutorial Methods. The first of these two being Thursday, where I got out by whirlwind through dream intent. The second was today about an hour ago. I relaxed into sleep and moved out in deep theta. I call this Transition State Phenomenon Focus in the Tutorial. Here they are:

http://www.cezyl.com/OBEs/dream_to_whirlwind_projection.htm

http://www.cezyl.com/OBEs/relax_sleep_dream-deeptheta_move.htm

Now I just have to work out:

A.   The intricacies of movement when getting directly out of body in full awareness.
B.   Staying out longer, especially after willing myself through dream intent to be somewhere else.

I'm not exactly sure what it was that sucked me back in when I was standing in that room, but I'm pretty sure it has to do with just I have to practice more. And my vision was so clear that I wondered if it was a physical place. I've never missed before, so I must assume that it was. I don't know where Louis is staying now. I'll have to go back and explore more, intend for him and see what happens, and staying out longer and explore. I'm sure he'll be happy to see me.

I am used to this heaviness of movement at getting out, and before I've just popped up with no qualms at all. At those times I was already deeply out though, and would become aware of it. Again, the answer seems to be simply to practice, to continue to practice so I can progressively move easier.

Tu chez!

Cezyl

Why hello there Cezyl, long time no see!
Its great to hear youve been having sucess with your "program" if I may. I really think what you are doing could really help those who are just begining, or those who havent projected yet. Well, just wanted to congradulate(sp?) you []. Best wishes to you with your program and your OBEs! Take care Cezyl [].

*Tips hat*
Very very nice there Cezyl, very informative. You have helped me to make the decision to work on improving myself, and my (as you put) core skills. I feel more confident now, and I believe in myslef a lot more. So I can just imagine how much more ready I will be after working on the core skills. Thanks very much for your (not quite sure what to call it) tutorial(?).
Take care!

P.S. I am considering joining your group! []

I like the spirit of your ideas but I have to point out that the first two points assume that there's some linear progression in developing skills. There is no such thing, so it's not even possible to say one person is more proficient than another.

Why bother even discussing who is more proficient than another? It seems like an inefficient use of time that could be better spent simply practicing the skills.

Link?

Hello all...

This desire and intent of mine is already work. I can feel it brewing inside myself. I can feel the minor areas of my beings that want to be lazy shuddering at the fact that I mean business. All this time has passed. I first bought a computer in 2000. I had Astral Dynamics and other books that promoted the basics, and said build the foundation. Even martial arts teaching thus, thus the holding of standing postures.

But I was impatient and rushed, and I did get some experiences here and there, but I am still no where near a master, and no where near able to get out whenever I want. My best advice to you now is to TAKE YOUR TIME AND MASTER THE BASICS **FIRST**. In the year 2001 had I take the time to work on the basics and even spent ONE YEAR on every basic and the states, for instance 2001 on relaxation, 2002 on getting into light trance, and 2003 on getting into deep trance, I would be a master now! But no. I was impatient. I wanted it NOW.

I believed that I didn't have enough time to take time to master the basics, that somehow the world would end, and I need to get it done now before it's all over. Well I'm still here, and my life situation is even better than it was then, and is continually getting better. So I realize that I DO have the time to take the time, and that there is really no time to not take the time, for in rushing to get it done NOW, I did a lot of running around but got next to no where!

I hope you take my advice and learn from my mistakes.  []

(I intend to spend about a month on each gate. [])

In a bit of self-advice I see one thing going on. In the terminology of Robert Bruce I need to work on my core skills. I don't remember the last time I actually felt relaxed, or consciously did relaxation exercises to the point of actual relaxation. I do mostly half-assed relaxation attempts so I can get to the projection stuff. Bad idea. (Think Animaniacs.) To give myself some credit, I remember when I used to get out or reach projection state often I was a virtual master at meditation, energy work, and relaxation. I used to do at least 40 minutes of meditation before EACH OBE attempt, and had the patience to meditate and relax for the sake of it. Now I am just hurrying through relaxation to get to the good stuff. I shall read the core skills in AD and work on those more, and further subjugate my ego. Still I want to give myself credit at least some and pull up some of the exercises I used to do, which are still a battery of meditation and concentration and relaxation exercises which I pulled together from several combinations of online and paper literary sources.

Thanks. Please come with more advice. Thank you all for listening. Thank you Tania for the advice.

haha, so true so true, good find Cezyl[]

So are you saying that this method helps you to OBE from a dream state?  That when you become lucid in dream state, that from there you can exit?

Yes, if you can become lucid while in a dream state, an OBE is practically guaranteed.. however, becoming lucid while dreaming is just as challenging as trying to have an OBE.

Good luck and let me know how it works for you!

Blissful

...

Perception of reality is always dependent upon the individual who is perceiving.
The descriptions of various experiences and phenomena are always coloured by the individual. Thus taking them as literal or absolute descriptions will taint your personal perception. Distill the essence of the description and keep an open mind.
You will perceive thing differently and your subconscious will prootray them in a manner particular to you.
In other words, rings , orb, disks and oblong objects are probably the same thing in a different disguise.
Expectation affects. Will effects.

2cents & L&L
jouni

I think it is wonderful and very strong of you to come on here and be so open and honest to everyone!!!  That took courage!  I never saw you as holding anyone back though.  

On any site you go to, one must go by their instincts on what rings true and what doesn't.  And I think different things work for different people, and you're right about being our own guides.[]  Seems like you learned a great lesson about yourself, I've been learning some stuff about myself as well.  Not all of it is pretty, but the lessons are there and I embrace them with open arms.

Thanks for this post Cezyl! I hope others will take a lesson from it as well.[]

Nay

I'm sure lots of people hate you for being a weirdo and it causes you lots of problems when you need things from certain people, like a job. But you're doing the right thing. I wish me and most others here could be as open about it as you.