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can you go in peoples dreams in your astrsl body and how???can you get people to astral project with you by getting them to while they are sleeping????how?[:O]

what is that quick hard shake,and drop feeling is that my astral body loosining???ive also sall with my eyes closed a white light is this also my astral body leaving my physical body???help me

when i was laying down for a while i felt a small vibe then felt tingling feeling,but i thought of floghting up and i didn't.later on i had a feeling like i been dropped and shook hard real quick.what was that some one help me please

quote:Originally posted by zjrules

hey,

yesterday, I was taking a nap,and when i woke i was floating,and it was blury gray. this happened several other times also. is this a obe?plez post the help.is there any easier,quick way to project?

Hello ZJ,

Found this while looking thru old posts.

Sounds like a beginner projection. With practice you'll gain your vision. Say to yourself "focus now" and "clarity now" while OOB. Works for me!

[Many of Earth's wisest mystics tell us that reality is a dream. As you can see in the movie THE MATRIX, it is possible for a child to bend a spoon with a thought. I know, because I watched my daughter bend a fork by simply placing it over her wrist. While she rested her right arm on the armrest of a chair, the fork slowly draped itself down to fit the curved form of her arm, like a custom-made bracelet. Switching to another reality feels a bit like changing television channels with a remote control, where the program is the reality we are in, and our thoughts and feelings are the remote control. We need to feel both intellectually detached enough to choose a different program from the one we're in, and sufficiently emotionally energized to transmit our intention. In that state of relaxed, energized detachment (with aligned heart and mind), we can and do change the world.Please let me know what you think of this month's stories! I love the way they remind us that just because we set something down doesn't mean we'll necessarily find it there the next time we look, and just because we face certain death in the form of an oncoming train doesn't mean we'll die that day. I hope you enjoy the book reviews for SHAPESHIFTING, THE FOUR AGREEMENTS, and SOUL STORIES in this issue. These books provide us with tools for breaking free from the mechanistic paradigm into new ways of thinking, where we know... there is no spoon!-- Cynthia Sue Larson]

Hmm... no..!
If you compares matrix world (Original, Reloaded and Revolutions) with astral world there are a big difference. Matrix world is created by computers that real time interact with brain of human beings through a reliable electronic connection. Astral world is changeable at will of OBEer. There time sensation is changeable, except at Real Time Zone (RTZ: the nearest to physical world). Far from RTZ (mental and higher dimensions), by example, 1 minute RTZ can extend to 10 hours or more, that's a time entirely new where thought speed is fully controlable.

I think (but I'm not sure about it..!) at www.realityshifters.com you can find out a more near subject to matrix concept, here at "real life" on earth.

Read the following with attention...

Many of Earth's wisest mystics tell us that reality is a dream. As you can see in the movie THE MATRIX, it is possible for a child to bend a spoon with a thought. I know, because I watched my daughter bend a fork by simply placing it over her wrist. While she rested her right arm on the armrest of a chair, the fork slowly draped itself down to fit the curved form of her arm, like a custom-made bracelet.

Switching to another reality feels a bit like changing television channels with a remote control, where the program is the reality we are in, and our thoughts and feelings are the remote control. We need to feel both intellectually detached enough to choose a different program from the one we're in, and sufficiently emotionally energized to transmit our intention. In that state of relaxed, energized detachment (with aligned heart and mind), we can and do change the world.

Please let me know what you think of this month's stories! I love the way they remind us that just because we set something down doesn't mean we'll necessarily find it there the next time we look, and just because we face certain death in the form of an oncoming train doesn't mean we'll die that day.

I hope you enjoy the book reviews for SHAPESHIFTING, THE FOUR AGREEMENTS, and SOUL STORIES in this issue. These books provide us with tools for breaking free from the mechanistic paradigm into new ways of thinking, where we know...
there is no spoon!

-- Cynthia Sue Larson

Excerpt from http://realityshifters.com/pages/archives/mar01.html

NEZabaleta

the best way to get rid of ghosts is to put up insulation, fiber glass works well, Ive heard that even straw could work,

the idea is that you put it in between your drywall, and the ghosts can't get in

i think i did, i dont know.but i heard noises,and it looked scary,and creepy. what do yall think?

I think this is not possible. Only negs can do it.[xx(]

Salt wont stay on it. Its not solid enough. The only things I've done with them are telekinsis, heal myself (a small amount), and contain an emotion.

Hm... ghost attack... no doesnt sound very likely.

As for the red marks tho, i get them quite regularly. I have pretty fair skin and if theres like a bump in the mattress or something and if you sleep in certain positions u can get those sorts of marks... if thats what you mean...

Hmm as for the slashs tho... Im not sure, but most likely i would say that you did them to yourself in your sleep, maybe if you were experiencing a lot of stress at the time, or a bad dream. Or perhaps you got them before you went to sleep? Past tests with LSD showed that patients having bad experiences could often very easily hurt themselves or scratch themselves without being aware, i know i can hardly compare drugs with sleeping but nightmares are similarly stressful... or so ive heard.

Spirit guide. Really cant help you there. Just ask for 'em i guess []

quote:Originally posted by zjrules

hi sry i started a new topic,but i still dont know when im out of my body during obe (astral projection).anyone got any help?

Yeah. When you start walking through walls, then you're out.

Simple when you can fly and go through things at will![].  Or if you mean while you are still in your bed then that's enought to know you're not out.  If you can't will yourself to fly up and out then that makes it pretty much for sure.  Most of the time once you're out you'll either be floating above your body or on the floor next to it.  Hope that helps.  How did you ge that far?  Just staying in trance long enough or did you do something?

Well, in a way they're the same. An Astral projection would be an out of body experience, but an out of body experience isn't necessarily the same as an Astral projection depending on how strict your definition of "Astral projection" is.

An out of body expierence is just that. An experience out of the body. An Astral projection is when you're out of body and in the Astral plane. Some people don't consider the real time zone (where you're seeing everythign physical and stuff) as part of the Astral. Most people don't see the Astral and physical as being the same, either, so they consider them two different types of out of body experience.

If you see something happening, such as your mom drinking tea while playing cards, or something, and you're not around, then ask her later if that's what she was doing during hte time you were projecting. If she says yes, then you had an out of body experience. If not, then maybe you were dreaming.

Before you ask about remote viewing and all of that stuff, I think an out of body experience to the Real Time Zone (or Etheric Plane as some refer to it), Astral Projection and remote viewing are all interconnected. They're a projection of the consciousness to somewhere, while some stays in the physical body. I think that only difference is that a Remote Viewing you're more in the physical and just kind of looking around, where as ina  full blown projection you don't pay any attention to the physical body.

I had a out of body experience about two weeks ago, but I was also fully aware of my physical body's location and everything, but only one consciousness. It had elements of both an out of body experience and a remote view.

You know, I wasn't going to say anything, but how come you always seem to post the exact same TOPIC and ask almost identical questions?  For example, here is just a small list of the most recent topics you started:
 
* hi yall please help me on oob and astral p.  
* e  
* astral help  
* astral projections  
* help me please  
* need help please on ap  
* ASTRAL PROJECTION  
* astral p help needed  
* ap body  

Wouldn't it make sense to just keep all your questions under one topic, like "ZJRules needs your help?"

Did you feel a slight bit dizzy?  Usually I'll get dizzy, while feeling heavy, so-say.  These are normal in a deep trance, and when attempting to AP.

Are you concious when this happens? If so are you the spirit of your body thats above it, or the body yourself?

I cant be of too much help, since I've only heard from friends. Usually thinking of the person, sort of like phasing is what usually works. Being in a shared dream with some one usually means you can see the persons aura brightly.

someone please answer my question[]

Its very unlikely that they can see you unless there Very eware of your presence.[]

if you want to learn how to AP go on google and look it up if you dont know the site here it is www.google.com

Next time just relax and mabey you will see something.[]

Holy cow!  Pretend?  Not likely What you need to do is read a little about Astral Projection.  In the upper right hand corner there is a seach area.  Type in Astral Projection Techniques.  That should help you find some answers!  Good luck, and please don't melt in your matress...