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[Now, having been through my coma, I can tell you that's exactly wrong and that in fact the mind and consciousness are independent of the brain. It's very hard to explain that, certainly if you're limiting yourself to that reductive materialis]

..or "What happens when a skeptic sees the light"

http://www.skeptiko.com/154-neurosurgeon-dr-eben-alexander-near-death-experience/

One thing that we will have to let go of is this kind of addiction to simplistic, primitive reductive materialism because there's really no way that I can see a reductive materialist model coming remotely in the right ballpark to explain what we really know about consciousness now.

Coming from a neurosurgeon who, before my coma, thought I was quite certain how the brain and the mind interacted and it was clear to me that there were many things I could do or see done on my patients and it would eliminate consciousness. It was very clear in that realm that the brain gives you consciousness and everything else and when the brain dies there goes consciousness, soul, mind—it's all gone. And it was clear.

Now, having been through my coma, I can tell you that's exactly wrong and that in fact the mind and consciousness are independent of the brain. It's very hard to explain that, certainly if you're limiting yourself to that reductive materialis

Who setup the SMF on this forum ? The default value for email address on the profile is visible to everyone in public and search engines. Right now I can go to any profile on astral pulse and get their email address without their permission if you didnt changed the default values. Any spam bot can scrap those emails, no wonder I have been getting daily spams for weeks.

You need to make it hidden by default. Facebook got sued for privacy, remember ?

*edited subject... please don't be rude ~Ryan*

Original post: durki

I see the silver cord extending from the spine of my physical body
As my astral body splits from the physical body
I move in the astral body & find myself in the Diamond Astral Plane
Every thing here glitters
I see a sage seated in contemplation
I bow & he opens his eyes
He says,
" I see you have just come here from earth
Have this manna
You are in need of energy
No body can come here unless we want him to come
Have a fore-taste of this place
Because it is here that you will come after your natural death."
I eat manna & suddenly feel rejuvenated.
I realize it is time to go back and
Suddenly I find myself in the physical body.

[RIGHT FROM THE CENTER]

This is regarding the sikh religion. And in sikh religon, their holy scripture book is called "guru granth sahib". Now there was a guy who had a type of cancer which doctor's said, It can't be cured and he was in his last stages of life. Someone recommended him to goto a city called "Amritsar" and visit the Golden Temple and pray.

When he went there, and listened to their "shabad" which is another word for hymns of their guru from the scriptures book which they usually sing at any sikh temple you are familiar with. He was a hindu, he didn't knew their language aka Punjabi. He could only speak hindi or somewhat half urdu. He started to listen to the kirtan, and he was able to interpret the meaning of some of their words they use in their devotional songs using his past experience in urdu and hindi.

As he started to listen he started enjoying the kirtan and the devotional songs they sing their. It kept on going for couple of hours. Then suddenly a white bright light came out RIGHT FROM THE CENTER of the holy sikh book, and went straight into the fingers of the guy who was infected with cancer.



The guy who was probably in his 50s-60s said he felt like if he suddenly had put his hand inside freezer and took out a cold ice cream. And at this momemt he started to feel better, and her daughter who was sitting right beside her at the temple quickly took 3-4 photographs of the "white light", those photos are now kept in a safe place and they don't show them to the public, they are bias about showing the photograph, thinking that those photos would be misused by the businesses to make money(e.g buy a candle and you can get the same light). So they don't show those photographs for the same reason. Now he was been tested 2-3 times by the doctors, there is no sign of cancer at all. He was barely able to move and now he is able to run easily. He told his story at the temple and the old experienced sikh gurus(which usually sit at the temple all the time) testified his experience to the general public. I'm just translating what he said in the following video link cuz I'm a punjabi.

So my question is what you think about this healing experience and if you have any thoughts and experience on that ? Is this energy from some etheric body or what ?

Original video proof in punjabi (if you can understand it):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3316914603171714750&hl=en

The name of the guy who was cured is "vasu bhardwaj" , you can google it.

Some other reference:
http://www.google.com/search?q=vasu+bhardwaj+cancer&hl=en&gl=US
http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Vasu_Bhardwaj