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Hello, I've been experimenting with the OBE state for quite a few months with various levels of success. One thing which puzzles me in all my research into OBE techniques is the seperation stage. A lot of people advise that your thoughts should be removed from your physical body at this stage, but at the same time they talk about 'rolling' out of your body, imagining you are floating upwards, being pulled by a magnet and so on. However I feel asthough all these thoughts relate to the body in one way or another. I wonder how is one meant to project whilst at the same time not thinking of their physical body? Grateful for your insights.