Or more specifically, learning how to do it from begining to the end consciously.
Let's just say i'm very good at the begining part (a sort of mini-dream state) and I have some experience of the end (unvolontary acces to non-physical from time to time), but the middle part is what's missing for me wich is, I think, what everyone is strungling with.
More recently, it has been my belief that practicing alone is now counter-productive and that I should interact more with people who practice in order to have a better understanding of some concept or maybe a different view point that can show me new way of thinking.
I have follow your advice Lumaza about "applying more patience to the process", wich make sense when you think about it. I have increase my session length and try to let the mini-dreams come and go. I just had 3 sessions so it's a bit early to judge but I have realize that each access to the mini-dream make me less and less aware of my physical body. It feel like the process of switching to non-physical realities really need me out of the way for a few seconds in order to prepare my body for the experience (or sleep if I fail), and it is doing it bit by bit at its own pace. Wich leads me to some questions to Lumaza when you say
For those of you reading this and are interested to try, you just have to seat or lie in your couch/bed/sofa it doesn't matter, and let your awareness wander where it wants to, like when you are taking a nap or when you go to sleep.
At some point you will see that you are naturally captivated by some thoughts or images, it will feel like you lost yourself in your own mind for a few seconds, this is the "mini-dream state" as I call it.
Observe the thoughts/images come and go, you will be captivated by what you see for 3-4 seconds and then you will come back to where you seat/lie.
You will have a tendency to look at it but whatever you were looking at will disapear, until the next one come up and it will feel like you playing on a seesaw or "yo-yo" with your body, few seconds in the image, 1 or 2 minutes in the body and so on.
If that's the case, well you reach my level, it's really not that hard to reach but it's the "balancing act" that come after that is an unknown to me.
Let's just say i'm very good at the begining part (a sort of mini-dream state) and I have some experience of the end (unvolontary acces to non-physical from time to time), but the middle part is what's missing for me wich is, I think, what everyone is strungling with.
More recently, it has been my belief that practicing alone is now counter-productive and that I should interact more with people who practice in order to have a better understanding of some concept or maybe a different view point that can show me new way of thinking.
I have follow your advice Lumaza about "applying more patience to the process", wich make sense when you think about it. I have increase my session length and try to let the mini-dreams come and go. I just had 3 sessions so it's a bit early to judge but I have realize that each access to the mini-dream make me less and less aware of my physical body. It feel like the process of switching to non-physical realities really need me out of the way for a few seconds in order to prepare my body for the experience (or sleep if I fail), and it is doing it bit by bit at its own pace. Wich leads me to some questions to Lumaza when you say
Quoteit won't always be like that though. Nowadays, I can jump in and hone onto my first visual. But that came through a lot of trial and error. I learned to completely "hone in" on them now. That seems to be the name of the game in this practice. Learning how to passively observe is a skill that is very important with this practice.How do you "hone" a visual and does it help you accelerate the process by doing so ? For me, I don't control the length of time it take to start the process or the length of time between mini-dreams or anything else actually. It can be very fast or increadibly slow like my last session where I spent 1h30 in the mini-dreams, it felt like only 30mn has passed and I had to stop it cause I had to take care of other stuff. Last week, only a 40mn to spare for a session and I was deep inside a scene in what feel like 15mn or so. It really depend on my mood I think, but I would like to know if you can have more control over it ?
For those of you reading this and are interested to try, you just have to seat or lie in your couch/bed/sofa it doesn't matter, and let your awareness wander where it wants to, like when you are taking a nap or when you go to sleep.
At some point you will see that you are naturally captivated by some thoughts or images, it will feel like you lost yourself in your own mind for a few seconds, this is the "mini-dream state" as I call it.
Observe the thoughts/images come and go, you will be captivated by what you see for 3-4 seconds and then you will come back to where you seat/lie.
You will have a tendency to look at it but whatever you were looking at will disapear, until the next one come up and it will feel like you playing on a seesaw or "yo-yo" with your body, few seconds in the image, 1 or 2 minutes in the body and so on.
If that's the case, well you reach my level, it's really not that hard to reach but it's the "balancing act" that come after that is an unknown to me.