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I found this article today on yahoo about a woman who had her brain scanned during an OBE, thought I would post it here. Funny how the article makes no mention of the term astral projection and it seems to be still trying to say it is something happening in the brain only but I like that they admit they can't explain WHAT is happening.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/scientists-scanned-womans-brain-during-232752794.html

Thoughts?

Hey folks.. Hope this is a good place to create this thread so I can post my experience with the Gateway Experience.  Have been slowly progressing through it and am just about to start the Freedom part which I think is Wave 3. At this point, I have been in F12 a few times but Robert Monroe has been just using 10 to create some tools in the last few sessions.

I have had a few interesting things happen while in F12 but nothing too crazy.. I will post some later. To be honest, so far I don't really feel much of a difference between F10 and F12 so I am not sure if I am doing something wrong or am not deep enough or what. Basically, he just says to count from 10-12 to get to F12.

I do find myself so relaxed that my mind tends to begin to wonder away from what I should be doing but I am able to pull it back to the task at hand. But its the same as when i am falling asleep when you start to have random thoughts and pre dream imagery of things that just make no sense and you ask.. Why would I be thinking of this.

I have not fallin asleep yet during any of the exercises though so thats a good thing I suppose.

Maybe I am correct in assuming things don't start getting too interesting until F15?

Just curious.. I have heard alot about people trying to project into the RTZ and then go to the White House, only to be met by some sort of Astral Guards or Astral Police that don't allow them in.

I am wondering if anyone has ever went to the white house and not encountered these guards, successfully walking in. I only ask because I cannot understand why any entities in the astral would care about whether or not a human projected his way into a place in the physical. Also, it doesn't seem plausible that the government would have agents who are projecting and standing guard there.

If anyone has an experience like this to share, i would like to know if you had heard about the guards before you tried it.. Because if not, it would maybe rule out the knowledge of it manafesting. 

Hi everyone,

So I have been wanting to post this for a while since it happened about two months ago, but I have been trying to process and analyse it. I will post what happened and then after, my thoughts on it..  Here it goes.

I was taking a nap with my son in the afternoon which is when I do most of my dreaming. I found myself becoming lucid in a dream and I did my favorite test, the "pinch your nose and breath through it" test. It works very well for me. After I proved to myself I was dreaming, I had a false awakening. I woke up in my bed and was pretty sure I was still dreaming... Did another nose test, and confirmed it.

I decided that I would lay down, close my eyes, and try to project. When I close my eyes, I could sense my physical body laying in bed, numb. I starting trying to float up out of my body and felt the tingling/vibrations all over so I knew something was happening.

I felt myself floating up and started rising towards the ceiling until I passed through it. Then I got caught up in an "astral breeze" and just started blowing away with it so I went with it and just thought "lets see where it takes me." I was passing through buildings, i could see the wood inside walls as I passed through them. Eventually, I  found myself in an outside dining area of a restraunt (italian I believe.)

It was lunch time (which was about right for the real time i was sleeping) and i saw my wife eating ounch with her parents. I floated there watching and my wife couldn't see me but her mother seemed to notice me. She gave me a warm smile but I still wasnt sure if she could see me there. Somehow after that, i ended up in a high school. There were students everywhere walking through the halls and nobody seemed to notice me there.

I was standing near what looked like two double doors that were the exit to the school. I front of those doors, some men in trench coats stood guard. I dont remember the color of the clothes but they resembled FBI agents or secret service, perhaps men in black?

I approached the door and tried to ignore them to walk out... But one of them stepped forward and put his hand up to stop me. He looked at me and said "NO PROJECTORS!"

I felt the authority these guys had and I didn't argue at all, I backed off and went the other direction. After that, I guess I lost my awareness and maybe slipped back into a dream or something cause thats the last thing I remember.


SOOOoo... After thinking about this for a while... I have come to the theory that this was an exit via lucid dream. The astral wind carrying me away is something I have read alot about which is why i went with it. I wondered if my previous knowledge of it influenced me in a dream. But I have never had a dream like this before.. Meaning i have never dreamed about astral projection that I remember.

The strange thing is that the scene with my wife and her parents was totally false as her parents were at their home and she was at work. This is why I originally felt like this may have been a dream.. Along with the fact that things were not extremely vivid like some people describe their projections to be. It was similar to other lucid dreams I have had.. I believe I gave clarity now commands which helped but still it was sort of hazy. After further thought, i figured maybe this was just another reality, time, or imagery created by me by accident. But the the feeling of the exit symptoms and sensing my real body laying there but not being able to open my eyes or control it was very vivid. I have felt my physical body before this way when attempting to wake myself up from a lucid dream so there is some continuity there.

On to the school... A high school is a recurring enviroment for me in my dreams so this also confused me.. But the agents guarding the door is not.. And this is what really intrigues me the more i think about it.

I was surprised to read a thread here recently (after this experience) and find that alot of people end up in a school environment once they start projecting?? For training?

I had also heard of astral police before this experience but I just dont know if it would of influenced these guards. They were not mean or anything, but i felt they were not to be messed with and they were intimidating, but polite. Sort of like bouncers at a nightclub or something.

The one thing I cannot remember that would possibly help me figure out possibly if this was a dream or projecion, was whether the agent spoke with his mouth when he said "no projectors" or whether it was telepathic. I just knew what he meant was that astral projectors were not allowed past that point.

What was on the other side of that door??? Ahhhh the curisiosity is killing me now. Lol

Maybe he didn't mean that I could never go through, maybe I just wasnt ready. Who knows.

The thing about this is most of my dream experiences fade pretty fast, but not this one.. I still stuck in my memory fairly well even though i may of forgotten a few details.. I also wrote about it in my dream journal.

And for anyone who had read my posts from last year about my lack of dreams, I have indeed gotten them back again. My problem was stress and not sleeping enough hours to get to a dream cycle i think.

Well thats it... Can't wait to hear some ideas, questions, feedback, etc from you guys on it. This seems like sort of a milestone for me so hopefully things will continue to progress and I can project from a fully mind awake state eventually.

Hopefully this is the right place for this.

I have checked my spam filter and dont see anything from the pulse there. I have checked my profile settings which are set to the correct email address and set to notify me of moderation and replies, yet I never get any emails when people reply to my threads. I am trying to be more active in the forums but I am finding it hard to keep track of which topics I have posted to, to see the new posts.

Thanks in advance for any help

I also check "notify me of replies" on all of my posts and my profile shows that i am subscribed to each of the topics I have posted in.

Hi everyone,

So I am sort of skeptical about telekenesis. I have seen alot of youtube videos of people using psi wheels made out of tin foil that move with heat from your hands or air, and also people trying to make water running from a facet move, which is does on its own. I have also seen alot of people faking stuff on youtube using invisible thread, visual fx, or camera tricks and claiming it to be real.

On the other hand, I have also seen an old chinese man who has demonstrated himself pushing things across a table, including a heavy bowl of water which I DO believe is real.. He says he uses his Chi.

So I am open minded and I want to believe that telekenesis is a real thing that people can learn. Unfortunately, so many people fake things like this just to get attention and be part of a group i guess... That it taints those who are genuine... Just like alot of things I suppose.

My question is, how many of you here have actually been able to move things with your mind and have you recorded videos of it? Have you done it with controlled situations like encased objects that cant be affected by air etc?

And if this is real, is it possible for anyone to learn it?

I normally stay over in the astral projection side of this forum but figured I would wonder over and endulge my curiosity.

I hope this isn't too strange of a question but..

I'm curious if anyone, while in the astral, has attempted to contact Robert Monroe and if so, what did he have to share since his death? What has he been doing?

I was wondering that to myself and i figured maybe some of the more experienced projectors here might have already attemted this if they are a fan of him and his work.

To anyone who has listened to these hemisync sessions, is it supposed to sound like air whooshing or are my headphones messed up? Lol

It sounds nothing like a binaural beat to me and i believe that hemisync was patented by Robert Monroe, but is supposed to be some sort of binaural beat.

Also, if anyone wants to post their experience with this, or other Monroe Institute products... I would welcome that. I realize some of you frown on binaural beats and such based on other posts I have got responses to in the past, but the Monroe products come highly recommended by Robert Bruce so I figured I would give them s looksie.

Hi all,

I have an interesting question I want to pose and hear as many opinions as possible from anyone who has projectd successfully.

My question is, how many of you who have successfully been to the astral, consider yourself athiests? And also, if you were an athiest and changed your mind after projecting I would like to hear from you as well.

I have heard of a few people who claim they have projected but still call themselves an athiest which makes no sense to me... Being that athiest believe in nothing after death, that you just are gone. It seems to me that projecting and interacting with entities and spirits would be proof enough that there IS an afterlife at the least.

I am not an athiest I just am curious about this subject because it seems contradictory.

Hi everyone,

I have a little favor that I would like to ask and I hope I am not being too bold by doing so. First let me say that I absolutely am not trying to get anyone to defect from The Pulse.. I love it here and plan to remain active for a long time.. and if this post is not cool with any of the moderators, please don't hesitate to delete it, let me know, and accept my sincere appologies.

I have been working hard for awhile in my spare time on a new website that I would like to invite everyone to visit. There are still some areas under construction, but I have my forums up and couldn't think of a better group of people to help get it started properly. It is called Paranormal Portal... it's similar to the pulse but also covers a wide variety of paranormal topics outside of Astral Projection. The forum is just the start and I have alot of big plans to grow the site and community.. if anyone would like to be part of my community as well as the pulse, you are always welcome.

Content will be increasing soon, please visit www.paranormalportal.net

I hope to see you all there.

Thanks,

Astral-Trea

Hi all,

I posted this hear cause I didn't know where the appropriate place would be to ask about this. I have been pondering some things lately that I wanted to ask the community to give some insight on.

There are those who believe that demons exist and are evil, others believe that demons are just lower astral entities, and others believe there are no good or bad entities, just different levels of vibration.  I really don't know which is the right answer, but I think it is safe to say that lower entities DO exist and that some could be pretty nasty.

There are alot of alleged cases of "demons" who terrorize people in the physical world, causing physical harm to some of them, haunting them.. in these cases, priests or demonologists end up saying that these demons have specific names and perform exorcisms to banish them etc...

I have heard people in the ghost investigation circuits and demon circuits saying that the difference between a ghost and a demon is that a demon has never been human.

So I started pondering a few questions.. are demon's just another form of lower astral entities? And then a bigger question: Why do lower astral entities and/or demons exist??

What I mean is, if we all come from source and we reincarnate over and over living our lives to learn lessons to eventually return to source, then what purpose is there for source to create these lower entities?

I suspect some may say that these cases of demon attacks on physical people are not real or something else all together, if so what?

I realize this may be a very deep and big question.. maybe too big.. but I would like to hear people's opinions on it either way...

I was hoping some experienced APers could share their experiences if they went to the moon. I have heard some people who say they have traveled to the moon and seen structures there along with beings.. I guess on the dark side of the moon.. that whole myth. I just was curious if everyone has this same experience, or if some people have explored it and found nothing. I often wonder if these people who see structures and beings, are seeing something not actually on the physical plane but in a higher astral plane in the same place.

Hi everyone,

I was just wondering if anyone had ever been to a Reiki master for energy healing or some other type of energy healer in order to help with astral projection. Like if someone had trouble, did that, then had more success.. I have been reading alot lately about Chakra blockage and such.. as well as importance of raising the Kundalini before AP.

Hi everyone..

I my post a few weeks ago, I talked about how i have a lack of dreams that i can remember.. Or if I do remember one, it is very faint.. Not vivid like they used to be.

I was suggested vitamins, some of which I have been taking like b12.. Affirmations, dream journal, and crystals. I have done all of these and I can say fairly certainly that.. Unfortunately, it seems I wasted my miney on the moldavite crystal and amethyst that I have been putting under my pillow. I use my dream journal only if i remember something which is the problem.. That i cant.. So that is limited. The affirmations dont seem to help... And the only thing that seems to be doing anything is taking melatonin before bed during the week. But even then, i remember short parts of dreams that are very very foggy.

So here is a question I have been wondering... I have been reading alot about the pineal gland and calcification of it. I dont consume much water and if I do, it is usually filtered somehow so i assume I am not getting much flouride from that. I also use flouridated toothpaste like so many others and am trying to find some that is flouride free. I have heard dairy products also calcify the pineal gland and i do eat alot of dairy but i am not sure if this is true.

I wonder if my pineal gland is very calcified and if that is why I am not having vivid dreams and also maybe why i am not very successful at AP.

If anyone could provide a theory on this and some definate ways of reactivating my pineal gland.. Maybe this would help.

Hi guys, so I posted one of my wife's strange experiences from about a year ago.. Now here is an experience she had 2 weeks ago.

Just as a background, unlike me, she has not studied or cared about astral projection her whole like or at all. She told me that at night when she was sleeping, she found herself floating over her body and looking down at it. She said that she was facinated at ow her body looked cause it did not look like her physical body. When she described it to me, I knew she was talking about her ethereal body. She described that her face looked sort of bluish with a slight glow and its like she saw just she details of her face but not the whole thing.. She also mentioned she looked younger. She said that she was not dreaming because everything was so real.. And she has heard me talk about astral projection before many times so she began thinking that maybe that what was was happening. She also said she was worried she had died at one point also.. The whole time while staring at her body and trying to figure out what was going on for sure. She said that she felt as though she was being pulled slowly and lightly towards her body but was trying to stay out. She also said that she heard a male voice to one side of her saying "hey! Hey!" i asked her if she saw anybody and she said that she did not look because she was too fixated on her ethereal body. So I guess whatever was calling her, she just ignored it... Anyways soon after that she ended up being slowly pulled back in and opened her eyes and it was over.

I asked her if the voice sounded bad and she said no, it just sounded like a male voice speaking normal. I wonder if that was an actual entity, or just an exit side affect,, but it is my understandng that voices and wierd distracting sounds are normally heard during the exit and hat after you actually exit, those go away which makes me wonder who this was that was calling her!

Anyway, i probed her trying to get any and all info I could and I am jealous because she did this without even trying when I havent been able to yet haha. The thing that makes it worse is even though she says it was amazing,, she doesnt seem to care enough to actually concentrate on trying to do it intentionally which I just cant understand. Anyways I just wanted to share this and I for one, hope she has another spontaneous AP so she can tell me all about it. I told her next time to try to look at my body..

Ps. She was asleep on the couch and I was in the bed.. She sleeps on the couch temporarily to be close to our newborn son.

Hi guys.. I wanted to post an experience that happened last year with my wife. I have hever heard of astral spiders before this happened but afterwards it seems that many people have seen these, just not sure if they saw them the same way my wife did.

My wife went to bed one night late after i was already asleep.. I have a huge fear of spiders but she doesn't. According to what she told me, she came and got in the bed while awake.. While getting comfortable in the bed she sat up and looked over at the wall next to my side of the bed. She swears that she had not yet fallen asleep and she saw a GIANT spider on the wall.. One that is so big I am sure it doesnt exist in the physical world. She said she looked at and got scared because she thought i was going to see it and freak out. She said the spider started crawling towards me but then disappeared in a black myst of smoke. She said it was black and red.

So once she told me this the next day, i researched it and found alot of people have seen these while trying to AP. The thing I wonder about is, how did she see it if she was by her on statement, fully awake.. And not trying to AP? My thoughts are that she somehow tapped into her third eye and maybe saw this thing in the astral realm?

I also have thought that maybe these astral spiders are not actual entities or astral wildlife but, but manifestations of a persons fears since many people are afraid of spiders. But since she isnt and I am, could she have been seeing something that my mind manifested?

I'd like to hear any experiences you guys have with these things and what your thoughts are on this situation.
I have woken up in the middle of the night before or early in the morning, opened my eyes and swore i saw a spider next to my pillow on many occassions. Usually it results in my jumping out of bed screaming and slapping my body, but not being able to find the spider and going back to bed. Whenever i wake up i usually have barely any memory of this but i have enough to not know if It actually happened, or if i dreamed it. I know that it happened because my wife has been in bed and witnessed me jump out of bed acting crazy and barely able to talk, then just collapsing back into the bed. But the spiders i have seen have not been massive like the one she saw.

Hi all,

I posted this experience a while back mixed in with another post but never really got any response to it, so I want to post it again and build on it with what has happened since then.

Last year, basically I was reading about AP and had tried a little to do it before bed one night recently.. I had dream that seemed pretty normal and wasn't ghost or AP related. It was something to do with repairing house.  All of a sudden in this dream, I was in a truck and the truck started moving back and forth on the ground sideways.. Like sliding.  I remember a few family members outside of the truck and I yelled that it wasn't me doing this. The dream turned sort of scary at that point and there seemed to be a ghost or something in the house that I assumed was doing this.  I suddenly got pulled out of the truck through the window and high into the air. Maybe 50 feet or so.. I looked down and saw the ppl I mentioned earlier looking up and what I now think was my body laying on the road on its side.  Once I reached about 50 feet quickly.. I sort of went weightless.

I have a fan next to my bed that blows hard and make alot of noise. I know from lucid dreaming that I can hear thhings like that in my dreams and also the TV etc.  The funny thing is I guess you don't notice it until it stops... While in the air everything suddenly went silent and was sort of startling... Like I had went deaf.. And I suddenly and quickly fell to the road.  The weirdest I remember hitting the ground but seeing myself and specifically my face, laying on the road on it's side.  When I hit the ground I woke up with a very loud snore and I heard the fan again..my hearing had returned.  My dreams normally fade away from my memory within minutes after waking..l but this one is one I will remember for a very long time with no effort which i also think is weird.  I find myself wondering if this was an AP within a dream and if some of the dream imagery was mixed in or something..

The biggest thing that is weird about this to me, is the sudden deafness... this was the most real thing about it to me and then later, I had it happen again.

The 2nd time which happened a few months later, I was in an elevator with some people I worked with at the time, the elevator fell from very high up and it was a glass elevator so I could see that it was falling. I went weightless again and everything went silent as before.. I remember looking around and thinking, this is it I am going to die... I was afraid and then suddenly woke up.

I feel like this was a projection that sort of happened but my fear and not understanding that at the time, snapped me back in and I woke up. I am waiting for another thing like this to happen so I can try to just let it happen and see where it goes..

Has anyone else experienced a sudden deafness during an exit or afterwards?

-Trea

Hi everyone, I don't think I ever posted a hello here but either way its been a while since I initially registered on the website. I guess I would consider myself more of a researcher than an actual projector since I have only come close to projecting consciously a few times but never actually had a FULL experience. I have felt the vibrations, heard the buzzing, had some manifestation side effects from partial exits, etc.

I have been reading about/researching OBE and lucid dreaming for probably over 20 years and consider myself much more successful at lucid dreaming, although it doesn't happen much anymore but I want to change that soon. I got frustrated at one point (with OBE) with getting so close but not actually being able to get out, and kind of put it aside. But no matter what, I always seem to come back to it later.. its like an obsession or calling that I have.

So while I have not just yet explored the astral consciously, I feel like I may be able to atleast help people out that are new to the subject with some of the info I have picked up over the years from books by Robert Bruce, Robert Monroe, along with info I have gotten from people on youtube and great people on here sharing their experiences. So hopefully I don't offend anyone by trying to chime in on threads with some of my third party knowledge.. I promise it is nothing crazy that would enrage everyone here like that you can die from projecting lol.

Anyway, I also was wondering if anyone else is from LA and knows of any group meetings that occur on these subjects.. I really feel a need to meet more people who are into this lately and don't really know how.

Take care everyone and hope to chat with you all soon, happy travels!

Trea

Hi all,

I know alot of people have different opinions of what will happen in 2012.. One that I seem to atleast WANT to believe more than others is the ascension to the 5th dimension theory. I have been watching alot of stuff on youtube and wanted to know what others think of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeZ2DT1yqh0

If this is true, then it sounds like no matter what, 2012 will be a good thing for everyone.

I tend to believe this theory also because of alot of things about myself that people claim are symptoms of ascension. One of the biggest is an intense feeling of being drawn to these type of topics along with a feeling of being different than most people. I feel as though I am "waking up" as so many people describe, because I have for years seen how naive and manipulated society is and I am breaking out of that programming. The thing is ... I have always found myself asking certain questions, but now that I am researching this ascension stuff more, all the pieces seem to be coming together.

Of course, I think alot more will happen leading up to 2012.. Probably a big earthquake soon somewhere in the world or other type of major disaster, crime has already been increasing but will spike drastically as people go crazy thinking the end is near and start doing whatever they want on a global scale, and then of course there is the alien attack government hoax theory.

Hi everyone,

I have studied lucid dreaming and dreams (along with astral projection) for probably about 20 years. When I was a kid... My dreams were very vivid and lucid dreaming was alot easier.. Now that I am 31, Its almost impossible to remember my dreams most of the time. It is like I am not dreaming, even though I know I am.

Occasionally I wake up in the middle of the night and do my reality test which for me, is holding my nose tight and trying to breath in through it.. I discovered years ago that this method works well when i  realized I could breath under water in my dreams. The wierd thing is, I wouldnt do this reality test if I were not having some sort of unsettling dream but I can never remember the dream even though I remember doing the reality check.

Occasionally I will remember a dream if I am woken up or something but they fade alot faster than they used to. I am the kind of person now that I cant afford to move around much if I wake up in the middle of the night to make a recording or write in a dream journal, or I will not be able to get back to sleep and I only sleep about 6 hours usually per night during the week which may be part of it.

Anyway, I just was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this type of thing and had any tips or remedies for it. I really want to be able to dream like I used to and am trying to get back into astral projection so i think lucid dreaming is a good first step. Another wierd thing is sometimes when I do remember a dream... It is dark and kind of twisted. Alot of times involving death and/or or ghosts.

I'm at a loss so any help with these matters would be great!

Thanks

Trea

Hi,

I have been asking myself a question that I wish you experienced projectors can answer. It seems like everybody who projects seems to have different experiences. I have heard some things described that seem to suggest that your mind can create reality in the astral, whether it be beings to protect you or beings that can scare you.  I have heard this described as that your fears and imagination can manifest these things. 

So my question is, how does anyone know whether the place they are or the beings they see, are real? How do they know it is not just a manifestation of their mind.. And for that matter.. How do they know that they ever left the body at all.  If your mind can create so much, what is to say that everything isn't created by your mind? That you are taking a journey inside of your own mind rather than actually leaving your body. 

I have read things on forums where people try to lay a playing card in a certain spot without looking and the look at it in the astral, only to find that the suit is correct but the number is not.  This seems to suggest to me that you are not actually seeing a real card, but a generated one. 

Please don't take this as being skeptical, I simply have been asking myself these questions lately and would like to have an answer from people who are experienced, and understand what they are doing and seeing. 

I do feel however, just like with other things, that there are people out there who like to pretend just to be part of something interesting and that there made up stories tend to confuse people and make the real stories and the fake ones hard to tell apart.  Please, if you read this take a few moments to give your opinion and thoughts maybe an answer or two.. Thanks.

So I wanted to post an experience I had recently to see what people thought about it and also ask a few of what I think would be less asked questions. First for the experience.

Basically I was reading about AP and had tried a little to do it before bed one night recently.. I had dream that seemed pretty normal and wasn't ghost or AP related. It was something to do with repairing house.  All of a sudden in this dream, I was in a truck and the truck started moving back and forth on the ground sideways.. Like sliding.  I remember a few family members outside of the truck and I yelled that it wasn't me doing this. The dream turned sort of scary at that point and there seemed to be a ghost or something in the house that I assumed was doing this.  I suddenly got pulled out of the truck through the window and high into the air. Maybe 50 feet or so.. I looked down and saw the ppl I mentioned earlier looking up and what I now think was my body laying on the road on its side.  Once I reached about 50 feet quickly.. I sort of went weightless. I have a fan next to my bed that blows hard and make alot of noise. I know from lucid dreaming that I can hear thhings like that in my dreams and also the TV etc.  The funny thing is I guess you don't notice it until it stops... While in the air everything suddenly went silent and was sort of startling... Like I had went deaf.. And I suddenly and quickly fell to the road.  The weirdest I remember hitting the ground but seeing myself and specifically my face, laying on the road on it's side.  When I hit the ground I woke up with a very loud snore and I heard the fan again..my hearing had returned.  My dreams normally fade away from my memory within minutes after waking..l but this one is one I will remember for a very long time with no effort which i also think is weird.  I find myself wondering if this was an AP within a dream and if some of the dream imagery was mixed in or something.. I don't know what to think so I wanted other people's opinion.

I also found a website recently that has some answers to common AP questions.  This website starts off like all the rest but then the answers seem to start to contradict everything I have ever learned about AP through expert books etc.  This website says things like that your astral body can be injured and that when you reenter your physical body, those injuries can transfer to it also.  It says your astral body can die which will cause your physical body to die and you will cease to exist which I don't believe, it says the cord can be severed which is not common, as well s a bunch of othr stuff. Here is the website... I was hoping ppl can tell me if they have heard of this stuff and if it is true.. Only if you are experienced in AP which means to me that you have done it at least a few times.  

http://robjo.wordpress.com/category/astral-projection/

I know you can't believe everything that is on the web and when I started researching AP, there was no web.  But now that I am using the web to try to learn more, I don't want to fall into any bovine excrement and think that a site is credible when it isn't.  

What do you guys think about what is on this site?

Hi everyone... I have been studying Astral Projection and Lucid Deaming for years.. Since I was probably 12 or 13 years old.. I am 30 now. I am new to the forum and wanted to describe some experiences and hope to get some answers.

I have never consciously projected that I know of.. The closest I got the first time when I was a kid was feeling the vibrations and hearing the buzzing,, then I got excited and snapped out of it.  After that I can't remember why but i think I gave up on it maybe because i had been trying for months with no luck and could not get back to that stage again. 

I had a strange experience a while after that (still a kid) so I guess I will start there.  I remember waking up one night and knowing that there was a woman standing over my bed.  I felt strongly that I was awake and I don't know that I saw a woman.. Maybe I saw a figure that reminded me of one I don't remember.  Anyway, as soon as I realized this... The woman jabbed both of her hands into my ribs as if she was tickling me... It was weird cause I thought of it as a tickle but it did not tickle.. It was a violent type of jab and I remember I felt the fingers jabbing hard into me and heard a female voice saying something like "tickle tickle tickle" or something along those lines.  Instead of m king me laugh.. I felt like my energy was being drained... I don't know hoe else to describe it other than just being actively drained.  I struggled and think that I said stop or quit.. At which time everything ceased and she was gone.  I felt disoriented after and I got up, went to my parents room, woke my mom up, and asked had she just came and tickled me.  Of course she was sound asleep and didn't know what I was talking about.  Everyone including me chalked it up to a dream... But I normally don't remember dreams for the res of my life which makes me wonder what this could have been.  My parents house is not haunted and we never experienced anything like that before or after. 

My theory became that either I had projected during sleep and something attacked me, or I had attracted something to me by trying to project before.  Is the latter possible because that is a worry I still have today. 

I got interested again in astral projection a few years back and bought some more books.. One by Robert Bruce which described frightening things that can happen during a projection such as clammy hands grabbing you etc.  That freaked me out alot so I didn't pursue it.... Now for some reason.. I have gotten Etremely interested in AP again within the last month or so and have been scouring the web looking at people's experiences etc.

I have alot of questions and I guess I will post them later as this one experience hopefully will get alot of response.  So until then, I will only say that I am very interested in AP but also sort of afraid because I do not want to attract any entities to our apartment that will begin haunting my wife and I. 

I had a recent experience with something I thought was a dream but I am not sure.. I will save that for later also.