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Hi all,

Some words to consider

If you are able to create any experience/emotion in a lucid state, then is it safe to assume that even the most intricate experience (E.g Having the sensation of slipping out of your body, being visited by other lifeforms, creating subjective validation) is a predetermined notion?

Objectively we are limited to laws of the universe, like wise we are limited subjectively to what we know(objectively)

So how can we define having an Out of Body experience considering above?

Doesn't it make sense to call it a Out of Body, Body experience instead?

Your thoughts are welcome

Hi guys!

I am not sure if this is against the rules but i don't see how it can be considering that i am not selling anything - just simply extending an invitation to a new community i have formed

The website is called wethinktoomuch

The reasoning behind making this website is to make it obvious for what we all do - think too much!

The only down side to this is that no one (very few) people document this - so why not make a community where people can discuss there own life's and there own perspectives and have the opportunity to see different perspectives to peoples success in any given field

Learning anything is an amazing experience and process - and learning is best done when you are teaching yourself - learning from your mistakes. Astral pulse has been a good tool for me to develop my OBE/Astral experience. Lots of websites i come across seem to share the same information - but there are lots of unspoken words that have not been on the internet and that is self taught people who develop skill by learning from there own experiences, failing and learning and repeating that cycle till they achieve there own goal

The idea behind this website is that we are all just as smart as each-other - some don't know this yet. This website will give people a chance to explore the minds of others will tackling certain issues themselves or even discussing random matters that they are interested in and want to gain further knowledge of.

The website is a forum based community and is mainly targeted to young individuals (They seem to be having the most influence over society's actions) that being said - Everyone is welcome as age is only a number and does not determine who you are as a person

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Hope to talk with you soon

[One occasion:]

What u p,

Well past few days this has been occuring more then often -

One occasion:
I woke up and i saw a white silhouette in front of me and i leaned in forward automatically with chills happening at the back of my head and i started talking to it sayings like "Hello?" as i leaned forward it would slowly disperse into nothingness ...

After that happened i had turned the light on shaken a little bit by the surprise it gave me. After a little while i would turn the light off and go back to bed,  but then be awoken by my mum taking the dogs outside (Around 2am) and this point i would notice the light is on in the room which i don't remember turning on and can't come to any conclusions why my brothers/parents would turn it on in the middle of the night... my door was partially open too

Second occasion:
I told my girlfriend about this and she had told me that she had a weird presence feeling in her room like something was watching her (She gets this quite often but said that it was getting stronger), i slept over there last night and was awoken to a attractive girl next to he bed with long hair and a white tone to her overall appearance... i became fully conscious whilst talking too "it" and then after realizing what had happened i became a little shaken over the surprise it had caused... Didn't have any bad feelings at all over this just the initial surprise of something there is what made me poo my pants.



Now im thinking, hallucinations seem to be the most accurate explanation because these experiences there is no contact physically or any talking that goes on besides me stringing sentences together from panic it puts me in... if it isn't hallucations however - how can i communicate with it if it dissapears so fast(also another thing leading me to believe it's me experience hypnogic hallucinations)

But then it gets me thinking how can i manifest something so detailed (Like the girl last night with long hair and detailed facial features and body) if it is hallucinations.. hmmm - thoughts?

So been aware lately that i get random thoughts in my head, nothing bad.. no ones talking to me nothing, just random thoughts about anything and everything when lets say im trying too meditate or even try to clear my head ...

Happens alooot before and after sleep

This doesnt effect me with astral traveling because i know once i get to the stage of noticing myself thinking random thoughts from a 3rd person perspective then i know im on my way to travel

Pretty cool having an outside perspective on what im thinking, as im thinking it, lol!

So how can you explain this? Can you program yourself to not have them? Do others experience this too?

Interesting topic thats fo sho

So i was sleeping at my girlfriends last night and i've had previous experienced with her being restless in bed about with external things happening in the room

This one time i saw a face up in her room after waking up in the middle of the night, she tells me that she usually feels other presences in her room

Anywhoooo last night around 2am something weird happened, i was sleeping on my side and my girlfriend was hugging me in a spooning position, i had my arm around her
and i was telling her "It's ok" "it's ok" "I love you" ... but the weird thing was i wasn't fully awake when i was saying that, it was like i was half conscious when i was doing it,
Anyway when i realized what i was doing i was like wtf.. But i do remember vividly that when i was telling her Its ok its ok i was actually thinking too myself something is happening
too scare her so i should comfort her (Thinking back on it i realized that whenever situations like this happen i act the same too comfort her, but this time
i was doing it without even thinking? I had this feeling of she was being shown something or a realization kind of thing that she had too see but she was scared and i was comforting
her, about it.. till i saw the face that freaked me the f out)

Then something caught my eye, as i looked infront of me i saw a face directly in front of me.. it's super hard too explain
what it looked like, it was like kinda like a doll face with a blank expression / a mask kind of face... any who when i saw it startled me and i freaked out, looked at my girlfriend and
started saying her name and asking her if she saw the face, she told me that she thought it was a dream

After that i was a little too freaked too go to bed so the lights were on in the room for the majority of the night, after about 5mins after i saw the face i was just laying in bed and i began too
feel like i was going into sleep paralysis for some reason, and felt this overwhelming energy go up my body, i tried calling out but it didn't work till a few seconds later i snapped out of it.. and too my
recollection my eyes were open while this was happening, very very un easy feeling at this point

So anywho my girlfriend has a dreamcatcher up in the room and she had an idea too take it down(it's directly on top of her bed) As she took it down i felt the energy of the dream catcher actually go down
as the dream catcher was lowered down from the roof... then the room felt alot more free and more open and was alot more comfortable after that

She tells me that this things happen sometimes and she feels presences in the room even when im not there, even with a story she had told me about laying in bed and then a girl appearing next too her on her side wearing one of those netting things that cover your face and was sending a warm comforting energy too her, other instances of things like she was at my house once and we were all sitting down and i saw her zone out and scan her eyes from one side of the room to the other and then tell me that she saw a blonde girl that walked past and sat on the couch

Im thinking that the face thing happened was actually what was happening too her at the time but in my current state of consciousness my frequency level was that on the same level as the entity so i could actually see it, till i got spooked and scared and then snapped back too full reality

What should me and my girlfriend do - i have a feeling it's gone now but if it was too come again what is the best approach, if any?

This has been on my mind lately after discussing mushrooms in test conditions from the forum, and reading a story about a guy who had remembered back too his early days as a kid - and i was thinking of taking that approach

I was born and raised during the Bosnian war and i left the country when i was about 4 - I have no memory of my time there at all and i would think something devastating as a war would be imprinted on my mind today and all the suppressed emotions would be healthy too sort out and let out, i also lost my mother during that time and i don't have any memory of her and would like too know those moments that she was in my life

Does anyone have any techniques so i can uncover these suppressed memories/emotions in my life?

Only thing im worried about with the mushrooms(and would obviously stir a negative reply from most of you) is that if i uncover something horrible that it would send me on a bad trip...

But i also believe and know if i was too do this that it would benefit very much

I am a really happy guy 95% of the time, and i do really care for people around me and i do my best too make people happy, i'm very empathetic in that sense... but i do sometimes spiral down in too a depression kind of state in that 5% ... Maybe im not remembering these things for a reason?

Please let me know what your honest thinking is

I have been starting too see patterns now in my mood and when i feel bad or depressed its usually releated too things that happen indirectly

For example i was at the hospital and there was a guy in the next room too me who had taken 30 zannax pills and the doctors who were helping him were approaching the situation horribly wrong, they were speaking too a man who was in a differnt mind state and using all these medical jargon terms that he couldnt understand(he was an obvious drug abuser) the whole time he would be trying too get out of his bed while the doctors were all getting angry and frustrated ... Im thinking too myself wtf - they approach him in such a forward and confronting way that they are making him scared a disoriented, then THERE getting angry when he reacts too that by trying too get out of the hospital? For some reason i took this so personal and it depressed me, even this guy i was with was laughing when the man was moaning and groaning in pain - i just went from calm too sad/depressed automatically

Another example is i am at someones place and i see one of my woman friends hugging another guy friend of mine and cudddling while watching movies, and the same girl is in a relationship with a man who is serving time in the army, and while she is cuddling up with another guy at her place while this guy is miles away from home serving his country... No disrespect and defamation intended at all for anyone... But i just seem too take this sooo personally and think very negatively on the guy who is able too do that knowing her boyfriend is in the army and miles away

When i think about these things it really effects me psychologically too the point where it could ruin my day and make me feel like sh*t for a while

Why is it i take things so personally when it is happening indirectly?


I am a confident man and not shy at all, i am pretty sensitive but i dont cry or anything around people and tend not too show anyone my down side - i know im very empathetic too people but why is it that i take things personally like the stories above?

I can't help it that i do but its been starting too happen alot recently

And i know confroting the situation would make things awkward and create un-necessary drama

Why should i care?

Have been talking about this recently on the forum and thought i would share this story

It is mind opening and interesting

Quite a long read though but worth it!!!!

http://www.shroomery.org/11875/Time-And-Time-Again

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82280839/

I had a lucid dream this morning and i noticed i was dreaming so i sat on the floor and started focusing on my awarness and consciousness, after a little i began too feel the environment around me changing, i ended up at my old house on street where i used too live many years ago, i called out too a spirit guide and one came coming down the road in a pink Lancer (car) she waved too me and told me too stay where i was, as she turned around the court her ride changed into now a speed boat, i figured i was half dreaming with all these things or maybe because it was changed because i wouldn't get in one of those pink lancer cars

ANYWHO so i jumped on the boat and we started driving and i could remember a distinctive music beat playing which really enlightened the mood and made things very cheerful and as we were riding down my streets my awareness got extremely high and i was having conversations with her, she had blonde hair and i asked her if she was a spirit guide and she told me she was

I remember asking her some questions about spirit guides and things like how i could see one in physical life and she told me that she could show me this one thing (seemed like thats all she could show me) and it had too do something with my hand/index finger... and when she touched my hands she told me they felt weird

She then went too tell me that "i have saved too many gods" ... and thinking back this might be interpreted differently as girls or guys because i have done some things in my life where i have helped a massive group of guys in my social circle with confidence issues with approaching girls ( as an example )

She then began too tell me im an "emphasize" and how i was going too make a change in the world and she was also said something about sexyness and she gave me a kiss on the lips, weird and interesting at the same time

Just before she could telll me about this hand technique thing i got sent back too my body because of my brother being super loud when he came in the house

Now this emphasizer thing is interesting as because its true and i think about all the things in my life and certain situations i try too "emphasize" for example with my car i go all out on visual appearance and my general self image and well being i go all out in also, i feel emotions more strongly the most people (think thats called being sensitive)... and even with games i used too play i would always need too be the best and i would spent countless hours achieving that

Im starting too think all this learning and experiences is really helping my self improvement within myself kind of thing and getting too better understand who i am kind of thing

Any thoughts?

I exited my house and i was on my road and i heard my bro and dad talking so i was trying too real time zone proejct and i ended up outside the house
and i went outside and i saw amer or maybe me outside in my dads car he was looking at something and i was movin my hand across his face and talking too him
but he couldnt hear me or reply it was like he thoguht something was there but didnt know, and i noticed lookin at dads car and saw a dint on his car


anywho after that i went out and the scenary was nice( of my street) sat down and looked off in the distnace at he trees and focused on my consciousness and
awarness and i was looking at my hands and noticed cuts and sh*t and i focused on them and over time they started healing and healing before they were back in a
100% state, i looked at the trees again and focused my consciouness and awarness too highten and i looked out in the distance and i noticed it changed lighter,
it was like a glove coming off the whole scenary that just transformed it whole into a new lighter area

I kept doing it and i found myself in this desert like area, i decided too exlore and began walking down the road and i tried too fly but i could only jump so there
was gravity here, i was looking down the road and i came across a line of animals tied up - and i saw they were flying animals and land animals, like animal mounts where
people could go on them and fly or ride faster.. i asked them if they could talk and the animal with the wings lifted up its hand and said yes, then i was asked if i could
ride on them and he shook his head in a  no, then i asked the 2 animals next too him the same questions and they replied the same

Heart broken and rejected(haha), i went down the road and saw goats off in a distance who were running free, i started noticing that clothes lines were become more vivid around me
and i noticed someone was living here, i knocked on the door and this girl came out and she told me too come in, there was also a washing basket or somethign infront of me and i got
the feeling that she thought i was just delivering her this, and i went inside and i saw a man and a woman ( im guessing her parents ) and i said hi, and i explained too them i was
on an OBE travelling and the girl lightened up and the woman also lightened up and she told me too sit down at this table, and she said we spoke another language and i asked what it was
and she told me the name of it but i can't really rememeber, i asked her too speak for me and she said it and i could autmoatically understand that she was telling me too sit down at the
table before she had the chance too tell me what it meant

I sat down and the woman was told again that i was on an OBE and she started smiling and she came around me and grabbed my hands from behidn looking at my hands, and shes like I can get you
karma points and i think she told she was going too get me something like some book and she was smiling and i was excited that i was going too learn more but then things started too get
uncomfortable with her holding my hands and the OBE ended with her repeating "she cheated you" same experience last time with the girl seducing me, with her talking in my head kind of thing
and now this happened again but she kept repeating "she cheated you" and every time she repeated it it was like i was slowly tuning out of it like slowly turning the radio station too another
channel till i was finally back in my bed in darkness, i couldn't move for a bit becasue of sleep paralysis but i remained calm and then got up and started jotting down what had happened

Ok, now im getting the hang of it and begining too understand what i have too do too get further and further,

This experience i layed down in bed and listened too a soundtrack that i heard helped with OBE's, i decided too try it

Anywho first time i got out of my body i appeared in my street and i noticed the weather was super bright and such a good feel too it, unfortunantly i got a phone call from a blocked number in real life and it woke me up

I didn't pick up so i went back into my state again, this time asking my higher self too help me leave my body.. this time i did and when i was in a black void it was like i was taking along time too get somewhere becasue it was like i was feeling my room but didn't know which direction i was facing (seem too always pop out near my house, old house, or girlfriends house)

Anyway this time i walked down the corridor and went through the window i normally go through which is my parents bedroom, but here i found a naked girl laying on my parents bed, usually temptations would take over me and i would do the cheeky but this time i stopped and realised that this might be a test, i avoided it and jumped out the window and ended up in my driveway, i tried the technique of looking at my hands and looking back up for clairty and it worked, i had minimal dream manifestations this time

This time it had a dark/moon-light kind of feel too the street... i was walking up it and at the same time calling out too my higher self too help me (with what - i dont know) anyway i noticed a wolf with a purple aura came from a distance running up too me, it was like it was going too attack me but i stayed calm and put my hand out too pet it, it came and i started petting it.. another one came and i again stayed calm and had both around my arm petting it

I noticed a bus off in the distance, in this bus had a purple aura infront of it ... and for some reason it clicked too me that i needed these two wolfs too get on (i took this as another test too test my fear too proceed too higher information or what not)

as i hopped on the bus i greeted the bus driver and noticed a guy sitting down on the back of the bus with headphones in, i was interested in him for some reason so i went up and tried too talk too me before the bus driver stopped me and told me not too talk too him

He explained too me he was doing a test, now i pieced together it was some kind of school test or something like that, but he was doing it on a bus with his earphones

I asked the bus driver what year it was and he told me it was 1950, then he began too tell me that there's technology here that people dont want you too know about ... as in telling me in the 1950s pressuming they had no iphones, headphones and all that but here they did and was telling me that they are hiding technology.. got me thinking that they have even more advanced technology today but are hiding it from the people, and by they im referring too the elite group who control this plane

I did some research and there were bus's in the 1950s but no headphones... and certainly not any technology too do a school test on a bus, with headphones in... very complex if you think about it having too do with that example of advances in technology kind of thing and it puzzles me where this infromation came from


I came back and quickly wrote it on my phone

What i took out of this is that i need too let go of my materialistic desires, fear and all that too go further and further into my exploration.. thoughts?!

I have had a few full blown OBE's and AP's where i know im not dreaming and not in my head, this was a little while ago and i decided too stay away from all this because of an experience of girl spirit talking in my head after one experience of her trying too seduce me, (It was on one of my previous posts and too sum it up i think a spirit was trying too seduce me and when i said no she got angry)

Anyway... whenever i project/obe/lucid dream i always start up either at my current house, or my old house... or sometimes at my girlfriends house if i am at her house and trying too do it

Now i can tell once im in those three locations that im still in my head and alot of dream manifestations happen, such as cars that i want too buy i always see driving around the road where my court is.

Anyway this experience today i ended up at my old house in my backyard, i asked the higher self if i could see my mum ( who had passed away when i was little ) i turned the corner and saw a woman with blonde hair and she turned around and i didn't really recognise her face, she greeted me like she had not seen me for a long time... i started crying but i could tell that this wasn't my mum (i think) because of her accent... it was really Australian like when she was Born Bosnian and im guessing had very little knowledge of english

So anyway after this experience i knew it was too good to be true and didn't think much of it so i decided too go exploring, i went up my driveway and my vision started getting a little fuzzy, i started too stare at things too make things more clearer and vivid and i would look at my own reflection(another hint that im in a dream state?) and would stare in my eyes and my pupils would dilate and i would feel like my focus and awarness level got stronger

I started seeing cars drive by and i kept asking too see a spirit guide and was saying "could i please see a spirit guide" then switching too "i would really like too see a spirit guide" thing's started popping up around me but i dismissed them as dream manifestations

I was walking down the road and i saw this woman that was unpacking things out of her car and i noticed a mirror next too her door (this scenery is 90% spot on with my old neighbourhood court) and i asked her was that a portal?

She answered yes - its your deepest secrets, obviously after hearing something like that you want too get in, so i did

As i got in the only way i can explain is i was kind of viewing a whole bunch of things right infront of me, looked like kind of like code and it was just layed out infront of me... for some reason i had the feeling of this is ALL the infromation i knew within myself and all bits of it was scattered infront of me... actually going through the portal felt like i was  shifting into another state

After this scattered "code" went away, i was back in the same driveway and was looking around and it was very purple this time, the roads looked like they were purple rivers and the atmosphere changed from being outside too inside now, i saw a black ship off in the distance and it looked pretty interesting, i kept calling out for a spirit guide but no luck.. so i decided too end my exploration and come back too reality... Was hoping for some contact with spirit guide and was going too ask about different dimensions, and the golden age and this and that but no luck

But i am still happy with the experience

Now i think that i still need too learn how too shift my consciousness and my awareness levels higher before i can fully get out of my "dream trap" so too say... and all this little things like staring into details too get more vivid scenery and staring at my reflection also help me achieve things like that

If anyone gets what im talking about, i would appreciate some wisdom and insight on how too get past this barrier (I used too be able too do it but have kind of lost the way or method of how too do it kind of thing)


THANKS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5XbOvaceRA&feature=related

So many conspiracy theories, so many things being told around the world

Mass disposable graves in America

Fluoride being linked too the #1 cause of death and it comfortable being in a water

New legislation in America violating human rights

What are they trying too do?

How do we stop this?

Anyone have any insight into this or any spiritual advice on what to do to prepare yourself ?

Interesting topic that's for sure

Open to all interpretation.. and am willing to take in all opinions and advice...

I was in my bed having a nap after i layed out some concrete in my front yard,

So i was having a few dreams and then i noticed i was awake but my body was still asleep, so i tried to do some OBE's by trancing myself out of my body,

At first it happened quick i zoomed off my bed horizontally, and i put my arms up and it was like i was rocketing horizontally

I opened my eyes and found myself in my room again, but i couldn't move i was trying to get out of my body but wasn't really working.. i think had this image of
a girl at my work and another guy at work i was having a conversation with, i kind of leaned in towards her and she was telling me something .. then she kissed my
cheek and for some reason i was gravitated towards her like i was falling inside her, and when this happened i started hearing orgasm sounds and moaning, after this
i was like WTF is going on, i woke up but now i was still in my bed in a black void, i knew i was in my bed and i was aware of were i was and i felt someone touching me
on my right side, (I had both my hands behind my head when i was laying down on my bed) It felt good... like i was having sex and i heard moaning that was getting louder
and louder

I was like i need to stop so i told whatever was doing that to stop because i felt bad because the night before i had finally decided to get into a relationship with this girl i was
really into, and keep in mind there was also another girl in the picture before i decided i wanted to be with this girl

So i told it too stop and i was focusing on "good energy" to get it away .. even though it felt good and i said stop

and all of a sudden it felt like i tuned into a new radio station.. my sound went all distorted and then i heard a very clear "nobody tells me what to do"

This scared me a little because i wasn't expecting a REPLY, so i said "OK, im sorry" and kind of got nervous and then i calmed down a little after the shock and asked who she was and
too come back so we could talk and help eachother out with whatever was going on, and when i got out this trance i saw a white flash of light too my left field of vision and then kept
trying to talk to her telling her to come back but no anwser or anything like that...

WEIRD huh?

P.S

Why i think this is an actual presence...

I have never had a thought about actually talking with spirits when i had an OBE, so my sub conscious couldn't have manifested something (maybe not anyway) like this...
Also she said "Nobody tells me what to do" meaning if it was something that HAS to do with me, it would be something like "You cant tell me what to do"

I had a lucid dream a day or two ago and i remember being in a situation looking at two people talking, and i could control 100% what they were saying ...

New experience for me and just shows how in depth you can get it, i was literally thinking of what they were going to say and then they would say it too each other... was hilarious because the things they were saying was funny as because it wouldn't go in context with the conversation they were having and was just awesome haha... just got me thinking if you can control the way people talk, make people appear, limits are endless !

So as i was slowly waking up to go to school i decided to try AP

I then tranced myself into that state just by kind of "freeing my mind" and then a force pulled me off the bed slowly after a few seconds of it happening (I have no exit technique lately it has just been a force pulling me off my bed?)

I then landed on the floor in black void and started walking forward and then in a little while vision appear and i was in my house, no furniture anywhere in my house, went to my parents bedroom and i jumped out the window and then noticed the road was busy full of cars

I tried calling out to a spirit guide and there was heaps of cars going by, i remember seeing a really attractive girl look at me as she drived pass, then on the other side of the road there was another car where someone stuck there head outside the window and was directin a "Hey!!!" at me, felt really good energy from that person

Then a car stopped infront of mea nd i got in, when i got in there was 2 tiny miniature babies in the back seat, didnt take my much note of it but when i sat in i saw 2 twins in the front seat, red hairish and young girls

I asked them if they are spirits and she told me "We are devi's", i asked her what that was

and she said something along the lines of we are twins without our physical bodies

Something like that... i had it remembered so good but i woke up to SP with me jotting down what i just heard and then waking up again with it not written down

anyone had any experiences with that?

I googled the word "devi" and apparently its some woman whos leader of a world movement of some sort of spiritual yoga? Never have i heard of this woman in my life up until now

I was talking with my boss a few days ago and he brought up a man called David Ike(his real into conspiracy theories and the whole conscience shift)

My boss was explaining to me something along the lines of how you put a drop of water in a glass after writting on the glass like "Love" the drop would form a nice shape and if you did the same for the word "Hate" or something negative it would turn ugly

And it got me thinking.. What the f**k are words? What if all those strong emotive words are like that because we made them like that, Neurolinguistic programming... Programming? So we managed to program and create these words which contain powerful emotions in them such as LOVE or HATE, even when i say them outloud i can feel the word... It's like a placebo effect in a way, how can a few letters do that?

Where can we go from this? There's no reason why we cant expand on this and bring it to different situations such as helping the world with its problems, maybe mental disabilities, sickness etc...

What do you guys think of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZEF2dvy1Co&feature=player_embedded

"The story of an amazing kid who was shot with a shotgun multiple times and made a full recovery. This is his story, told by him."

One of my friends that i know she has certain episodes where excrement like this happens;


She was sitting down on her kitchen table while talking to her mum and all of a sudden she kind of zones out and her mother asks her whats wrong and she replies with "What?" and after a little she will come back to her senses kind of thing and then act normal?

She says shes feels like shes missing something inside her like an empty space says she hasn't been her self lately, anyone have any wisdom on what this might be?

I just trued to have an OBE (8pm) and i got virations and i was able to get out of my body and into the black void and i felt asif i went through my wall to the ground and i tried walking and i felt like i hit my head?

After that i was back in my bed still in vibration state and i focused myself looking from my roof to my bed and i could picture it and see myself birds eye view for half a second then i would felt this incredible pain in my head, felt like 2 areas of my head were affected and it hurt alot, i
Then had a false awakening and called out for a spirit guide for help and my iphone popped up infront of me showin me a picturr of what looked like a horse riding something :S

Then i forced myself to wake up because everytime i focused too get into the trance it would literally hurt my brain alot, woke up with the top right hemisphere of my brain pulsing... Whats goin on?

This was weird, usually takes me 10-20mins to get out of my body but this day it came in 20 seconds, and with background noise to the extreme

It was about 2pm i was in bed after having a lay night and i could hear my parents dow nstairs talking loudly and my dad walking up the stairs, i turned my head to the right and my head felt like i got into that state of trance when i do before i have an OBE, when i felt this pressure kind of go in my head my sound went super sonic i could hear very well and clear and i could hear my mum's voice from downstairs and what seemed like to repeat itself, and i could also hear my dad's

Then i started to hear someone whispering next to my ear, was like a "Psh psh psh psh" sound, very fast and felt like someone was trying to get my attention, I felt my body then move to the left as if someone was trying to pull me out. I kind of had a vision of myself(or my identical twin's) presence next to my bed laying down next to me and whispering in my ear, i tried turning my head but i couldn't and in that moment my Dad walked in and started complaining how i sleep till so late, and i remember looking to the side thinking someone was there then looking at him in shock not knowing what was going on

Anyone have some insight into this? I could feel the presence and it felt like it was me or my identical twin brother

I also remember after that being on the computer and in the corner of my eye seeing a head pop out of my brother's closed door and it looked like he was looking left and right then dissapeared, could it have bene him projecting unconsciously? (He was in his room sleeping)

Ill with stomach flu i didn't think an OBE would be possible seeing as i was in such a state, my heads clear but my stomach is growling/hurting


So what happened was i was dreaming and it turned lucid after a bit, i was doing some flying and i decided that i could try AP'ing, so i drifted in the air and started concentrating on "freeing my mind" everything started turning white and i started to feel vibrations shortly after and could feel my body swaying out of my physical body, shortly after that i opened my eyes and appeares in a theatre like room

1st experience
It was a two story house and i got to the bottom floor and made my way past this curtain, i opened it and started walking forward, i felt bad energy to my left and as i looked there i saw this figurr standing, buff dude with claws as hands and a gas mask on, it started clawing at me as i asked "Who do you represent" pooing myself a little and remembering peoples opinons on dealing with these negative entities i turned around and walked off

As i got outside i was on a street like enviornment, vibrant colours the first thing i noticed was how amazing the quality was on my vision, i started walking up the hill. I remember meeting diffrent objects i cant explain with words, closest i can come too is that it looked like a puffed up deformed black mailbox? which had a mouth i remember trying to talk to it but forgot the reply

So as i continied up the road i noticed a pitbull type dog trying to attack me and to my suprise it was actually tugging on my body which i found weird seeing as other negative entities i encountered i couldnt feel there attacks only sense there bad energy and my fear, maybe those ones i cant feel was a test or my fear being manifested?

As i got up the hill i remember seeing a old school racing car and i got in it and i rember over hearing instructions on how to start it, "push to start" or something and i got in it and pressed start then the car in synced with my movements and off i went, this lead me down to a black/red road filled with arrows going down and up and i followed this and my vision started to go blury then went good again

2nd experience

After that road i ended up in the house i was in before and i went through the same room with the negative entity but he wasn't there this time and as i got out this time i was on a porch and first thing i noticed was the sky was so pink and vibrant and i remember thinking "Wow" outloud and as i said that someone else said something next to me and started running and i folowed her and asked her who does she represent and who she was and she turned around and i could see her face, which was a baby face with the cutest most gorgeous smile with good energy, she said she her name was "Miss. Fisher"

Something along the lines off "Follow me Maddie, i want to show you something you can do in real life" and i immediately thought Wtf, Maddie? I'm a boy and she said she was joking as we continued running to this creek spot

As we got there i noticed on the ground there was water and sticks scattered all across the water and 3 water bottles, i asked her what to do and she told me to pick up the water bottle and i did, and she laughed and said She laughed and she said "no silly like this" and she picked the water bottle up with two sticks and i did too and it was kind of half assy and she said to put it in her mouth and i tried half butt like and i managed to just get it in her mouth and she was saying not like that or something and i noticed sounds to the right of me and i looked back at her and she had this cheeky butt smile but the most gorgeous face radiating good energy and she said "now you got to *mumbles something*" and i snapped back to my physical body!

Also almost forgot i can't edit last post because of iphone but before the 2nd experience my vision was 3/4 taken over by a presentation like thing and it showed me pictures of 2D/3D/4D and i think even 5D diagrams and with full detailed writing next to it, when i feel better i'll post pictures of what i saw!

Thoughts?

That' what it felt like,

i was having a nap before and i remember in my dreams i was walking around a corner shop and i had the feeling off my brain puffing up and then slowly depleating and in my dream i fell to the floor and my movements got really slow

then after that i woke up, went back to sleep and then i felt like a bubble burst in my head and it woke me up fully, anyone had this kind of experiences happen or know of what is going on
?

Had another successful AP this morning, after some pretty crazy butt dreams of me being in a boat that was getting flooded and being on a mission to get out while it was flooding, and also being chased by police and Samuel L Jackson and my friend, lol!

The morning was super cold and i could feel my face very cold so that was so distracting to me when i was trying to concentrate

But i managed to get out and i pictured myself going to the pyramids in egypt, i pictured myself standing on top of that Sphinx thats there and i ended up in a building, and i looked out
the window and i saw that sphnix on top of another building, was weird, i decided to fly out the building after seeing my Dad there in the building telling me i can fly and to jump out the window so then i was flying across the city and the Sphinx dissapeared, i started flying around and i noticed there was water edges to the city and i couldn't get passed it it would fade into white if i was to go near the water, i was in the city for a fair bit didn't really do anything interesting apart from fly

I snapped back to my physical body and tried again and this time i projected without any vibrations (or so i think) I was in the black void with my astral body and i remember it was the layout of my room and i opened my door and exited it (Still in the void) and i tried opening my eyes and i found myself in this corridor going right and left, and my vision was sloppy and slow when i tried to open my eyes and it was very hard at first to do it

Snapped back to my physical after that and then i noticed i was in a false awakening after seeing a girl on the top of my cupboard, she had purple hair and it was just her head and every-time i would look it would appear that her head was coming out from the cupboard too see me, that happened for a good 1 minute as i was trying to observe her and while trying to wake myself up, i get this hallucinations alot i remember i once pictured a black man sitting on my computer chair when i woke up one time and the hallucinations go away within a few seconds, except this girl was only here when i was in my false awakening state

Weird...

Not so much the hallucinogen drugs but im talking speed, coke, alcohol


Is it OK to drink alcohol on the off occasion?

Has anyone had experiences where it effected your progress or awareness of APing?

This was pretty weird and i was set out to project somewhere this time and i did it!

I started off by waking up in the morning, going to the toilet coming back then drifting off a little

I woke up again and then went back to sleep with the set of having an OBE, i started on my side and i felt my astral arms move when i wanted them and noticed i was having false awakenings

So i woke myself up got on my back and then 5-10 seconds later i felt the vibrations, as i  got to the black void i pictured myself in my grand parents apartnment in Bosnia (Eastern Europe) , im currently at Melbourne, Australia)

I ended up in there toilet and i came out and went and looked for them, i saw them both on the bed and i came up and yelled "Majka! Majka!" which is Bosnian for "Grandma" they both awoke my grandma and grandpa and i remember having a conversation with them, she was suprised to see me but i didn't take much note of it and im not jumping to conclusions if thats what actually happened or i made it up with my sub conscious, but either way i'll have an open mind too it

Another thing to note i remember my twin brother came along too in my AP, maybe i made him appear with my sub conscious because i had a feeling of he had to be there too to visit them?


After this i woke up and then went back to the vibrating state, this time with the intent on projecting to a specific time, i can't remember what i said to project to where i was going next but it was along the lines of picturing my house and "Current time" and i usually use the rope technique but this time i pictured myself coming out the top of my head while saying "Go!" and i was out just like that

I started walking down through my house and i saw my brother, the mood was a cozy dim lighted room and it felt so familiar, my brother told me it was September the 1st and i checking my computer and having a chat to some guy and telling him im from the future (Lol) again to remind everoyne im keeping an open mind to everything and not jumping to conclusions!

It was weird because i felt like the conversation i had with him i had already had before, the warmth of the room felt the same, then i went outside....

Darkly light atmosphere i saw alot of people, i talked to a few people but forgot the conversations, i remember calling out to the spirit guide and asking people what year it was i also remember flying at some point

ALSO another interesting thing when i called for a spirit guide a Lamborghini came up right next too me and it was like he knew i needed help or wanted questions anwsered, i got in and there was this guy wearing a cop outfit and i remember a badge saying "sheriff" i asked him what year it was and he paused for a second then he said "I forgot" then i asked again thinking my mind was making this up and he gave me an answer something like 1970 or something, different reality? subconscious ? who knows !

I remember we were driving and i was looking at the speedometer and i noticed the speed started at the high 100s, i looked at him again and her turned and i saw his face, he turned to me and he was bald and he kind of looked up and i could see his eyes were a bit deformed, not so much deformed but they were weird...

I remember thinking to myself F**k i've been here for a while i need to go back and jot down my experiences before i forget them and i snapped back into my room and i had a false awakening of me turning on my computer and then managed to get myself to snap out of it

So happy i was able to project to my grandparents house all the way in Bosnia, and still had a shot at real time projection , a long and interesting road ahead!

Just had a thought yesterday, when you realize you are lucid dreaming sometimes you tell yourself "I'm dreaming"

Was thinking... why not have a sound track and then have your own voice 1-2hours into the track say "I'm dreaming"

Has anyone tried this before?

Early morning where i do most of my LD's and OBE/APs

I was feeling vibrations and being awake throughout the morning and i pictured myself taking steps on the step outside my door and after some time i ended up there

I went into my brother's room to check and similarities i could see for and checked behind his computer desk and there was a duck tape, camera and
ruler i made mental note of this before i left

I then tried to exit the wall but couldnt do it so i went more downstairs in my house and then i tried
to exit the window and it was hard-ish at first and i got out then i saw outside, and the weather was
awesome, it was like it was 2D in quality/cartoonish but it had a real-life like too it, I had ideas of
going into my neighbors house too see what his house was like but i thought it would be much better
to check out what was outsides, before in the morning as i would try to OBE i would call out for a spirit guide
and it would be very hard on my voice or my throat i could feel it not being able to communicate it fully but when i
did it outside here it was clear and even echoed a little, i then noticed 4 things come down from the sky

I noticed one that that came up next to me and it was one of thsoe knights who ride horses, except it was more so
of a cartoonish  of those realistic ones, i then noticed it tried to poke me so i poo'd myself a little and i remember a voice in
the background saying to "free your mind" and when that happened i knew for some reason to fly away, so i got up out of there
and started flying towards this green mountain which was directly left of my house, and it was beautiful too, sky was awesome and
i remember looking down and trying to see that "silver cord" people tell me about, but i couldn't see it ... does this mean its a dream or a
OBE/AP

I think i recall thinking if i don't have a silver cord i might have died, and i think that thought sent me straight back to my physical body, opps

Some notes i remember is that when i awoke my brothers computer didn't have the measuring tape, and i dont have windows on the bottom of my house
on the wall that i went through , instead there's a TV


Also what i noticed is that i had about 3-4 OBE's in the morning except not all of them were as successful as this one, and every time i tried one i felt like i was
attracting entities or other things (might of been figment of my imagination) to my room, for example i could sense a dog (after this force pulled me to the bottom of
my bed and felt the fuzziness and it reminded me of my dog that passed away) and i also recall something trying to scare me and a silhouette of a women standing above
me

veryyyyyyy interesting

[believe]

Now i'm not trying to take over these forums or anything or make myself "popular", these are just my experiences that i have come across and work for me, and also connect to relative subjects of the power of the mind which is really interesting! Check it out and lemme know what you think!


Over the years i have figured out how to control your lucid dreams 100%, Doing anything you want, literally anything imaginable

Its this;

Connecting a mental thought to a physical movement

Now you can combo this how ever you want,

For example if you read on Lucid forums and it tells you if you rub your hands together you increase the quality and achieve "HD" in your dreams

and because of that mental thought and you doing that physical movement you convince yourself it works and sure enough it does!

You have to realize in your lucid dreams you are the controller, your in your mind so any thought that comes across will manipulate your environment!

ANYTHING !

I can't stress this enough! if you believe in doing a particular thing it will HAPPEN

Want to fly? Flying is easy. Tell your self that. then next time enjoy your flying experiences to the place you choose

Remember your in your MIND, all your mental processes are going on, so EVERY incy little bit of mental thought effects your lucid dream

Practice! Why? Because your confidence grows in the thing you want to do, and this filters out any negative processes in your head when you try to achieve something, during your lucid dream AND in real life!

One thing of the combination i do with the lucid dreams with thought and movement is i say to my self what i want too appear, or what i want to happen, and then i tell my self i look to my left, then look back i will have the thing i pictured there, or that event will happen (such as a tsunami appearing)

You can literally do anything imaginable, key word  = IMAGINABLE

Your the creator in your world!

You can do much more things while lucid other then driving fast cars, flying and what not

You can get over your fears, and feel strong emotion of whatever you want! Be it a strong orgasm, or a intense happy surge of energy through your body , its possible ! anything is possible you can think of!

I think that's why some people have troubles lucid dreaming, you have to look at it in another perspective,  hope this helps too any upcoming lucid dreamers

I been trying to implement this process in the real world, and it works to some extent sometimes i would match a movement like squeezing my hands while im in bed and telling myself every squeeze i do i will get tierd, and it works to an extent

And other scenarios such as fitness, riding up a hill on a bike and repeating to myself POWER! YOU CAN DO THIS! POWER! not letting any room of negative thoughts to enter my mind as one little bit can through off your whole feeling toward it

The mind is powerful

Ever seen a hypnosis? I remember one where he was pretending to be a doctor and he put that device around a girls arm which measures your blood pressure, and he told her every squeeze he will do it will create an intense orgasm that will grow higher as the device tightens

PEACE

P.s

Look up Neuro linguistic programming

Having some thoughts about if this was an OBE or not

So it was morning after i had just woken up and decided to try to have an OBE

Felt the vibrations like normal and i was picturing myself in my room, so i had the layout and everything planned in my head where i was
going to be when i exit my body

Except for some reason i was thinking of the layout of my OLD House, and i didn't realise till i got out of my body by rolling out of it, i ended up on the floor and i turned around and i was in my old room, i saw someone on a bed and i thought it was me, after that i was crawling on the ground my upper body was free but my legs didn't seem too move,

I crawled out the window, landed on the floor and then i could walk, and now it was then i realised i was in my old house, i walked up my driveway and and looked at my neighbors house too see if i could pick out something to remember so i could have a look in physical life when i woke up

I saw a car down the road and everything looked legit, my view was very wide also thats something that i also noted

There was heaps of distractions during the morning, my dogs for example so when i peered off into the road and thought to myself it would be nice for a guide to help me, but no response for the next few seconds, then the scenary dissolved slowly and i was back in my bed

I'm getting alot better with getting out of my body now and holding the vibrations and letting them take over

So my question is, was this an OBE?

And also i haven't been doing any chakra meditations, is it necessary?

I have had past experiences with LSD and Mushrooms and alot of Lucid dreaming ( I taught myself when i was young , keeping a dream journal and all that ) so I'm thinking my conscience is expanded to where its allowing me to have OB-E's and be conscious about it seeing as i have only been attempting this a week

Hey guys i really should do an introduction but seeing as i just experienced a few and its fresh in my mind i decided to post this first

Its been a week now since i been trying to Astral Project and i been having little success with it, i write down in notepads my experiences and this some of them;

I'll first tell you the most recent one(s)

I was in my bed trying to induce and OBE by laying on the top of my bed with my underwear on only, it was cold so i put a donna over myself and thought i might aswell try to lucid dream instead, maybe 30minutes or so i woke up and was still drouzy and i king of accidentally had an starting of an OBE (where i felt the vibrations)

So i tried to do this ladder thing and imagine myself climbing a ladder and
i kept imagining it in my head, all of a sudden i got out of my body completely but i couldnt see anything, my eyes were closed like they were 2minutes ago before i was imagining the ladder

Then i kind of floated of my bed  slowly because i was trying to get up on my room and i landed on the floor and felt my back hit the computer chair leg, then i snapped back into my physical body because i realised i couldn't make any progress because my eyes were closed and i was incredibly sluggish and slow in my astral body

Literally few seconds later after i snapped back into my body i imagined a girl infront of me and i started kissing her and focusing on the senstations and how she was a distance away from me and i was in my bed so that thought of distance and me focusing my energy literally flung my astral body out of my physical body and then i felt like i was light, when that happened i opened my eyes and the room looked weird, it was like i could only see the view from where my physical body was, i started hearing noises and tried calling out to a spirit guide but my voice couldnt get out of my physical body and it felt like my neck was struggling to say anything even though i was outside my body, and then i snapped back into my physical body

Literally another 30 seconds had passed and i attempted it again and felt the vibrations like the other 3 times after this time trying the ladder thing again or maybe it was the girl thing, and my astral arm flung up out of body real fast, this time i tried opening my eyes straight away and i saw the room but from the point where my physical body was, and couldn't completely get out of my body, and i felt i hit a pillow up and it landed on my face and i felt the force of the pillow as my arm went up and as it hit me on my head when it fell down, i then snapped back because i couldn't move, there was no pillow were my arm was.

All those hapened within a space of 3-5minutes

Real quick and fast and felt like i could project my astral body out of my physical body very fast

After the 3rd or 4th time i tried taking my blanket off and just laying there with my boxers but it was pretty cold and i couldn't do it

So my question is, what the hell where those physical objects i felt and touched (Such as the computer chair leg my back landed on) and the pillow? Lucid dream? And i don't understand why i'm having trouble moving my body around it feels really slow and sluggish, and i can't seem to open my eyes and if i do the sight is usually like im looking from my physical body (For example if my head is tilted left i can see the angle of the room like that, but from where im standing it really obscures the room, its weird :S

Anyone experienced this or can guide me to the right path of how to get completely out and explore with ease?

To save you the long read the other experiences i had were similiar, me trying to get out and say an arm or leg coming out but my body not completely coming out

There was this one time also where i freed myself and felt the vibrations and my body was pulled by a force off my bed slowly, then it was turned upside down slowly and it was rising to the roof, and the way i can explain this is that when i hit a certain point in the top of the room where my body had started to go higher then it, it felt like i was slipping into another dimension, like the feeling you get where you take off a glove off your hand, that slip and extra exterior coming off and when that happened i got scared and snapped back into my body

Would appreciate some insight into my experiences and if anyone could help me out

Thanks for letting me bore you!