Hey guys... I have been doing some research( more like reading) into anything what is considered beyond normal human abilities for a while now. I have gone through a lot of source materials ( some age old books/poems like the vedas,gita) and a lot of books by western authors.
I have been meditating for a good 5-6 yrs. I was not really regular, so there have been days/weeks when i havent. I had a few experiences which i can say comes close to OBEs described here, tuning in to a particular sound/voices, sleep paralysis ,lucid dreams etc.
So my understanding now - is that all these experiences were all experienced in my mind. The OBEs were constructs of my mind just like a dream, but seems very vivid and real.So the only thing which was not normal is that, these constructs of my mind seemed very real!...but i was still physically sleeping and all this was happening in my head!!!So that sums up my "beyond the normal" experiences.
In anycase they were all just in my head and none of them even closely impacted my reality or was based on it. It wasnt in anyway directly associated with the actual physical world. None of my experiences had any impact on the physical world( any tangible interaction).
This forum has a lot of posts about claims which seems really fantastic--- ex - telekinesis...telepathy!!, but has anybody here experienced it first hand or seen people do it? is there any OBE which is a proof that it wasnt something in their head but was somehow related to the physical world( some direct interaction, to prove its not a construct of the mind ).
I hear a lot of various spiritual views too ( about life ,death ,universe, karma chi, energy levels,chakras etc), but are these just what we understand as a concept or has anybody out there experienced it as a reality?ex - gravity can be explained conceptually , and can be understood conceptually or can be discussed conceptually, but experiencing it is different.We can believe in it because of the experience and hence it no longer is just a concept/theory.
So are these metaphysical subjects/spiritual teachings just concepts, mental constructs/fantasies or are they for real?
Are they just innocent claims or a lure for cheating/misleading the innocent?
Are they just theories to bring about a concrete definite picture of reality? and all it has to say is valid conceptually/logically etc for a discussion but not experienced/proven.
What is the truth ?
I have been meditating for a good 5-6 yrs. I was not really regular, so there have been days/weeks when i havent. I had a few experiences which i can say comes close to OBEs described here, tuning in to a particular sound/voices, sleep paralysis ,lucid dreams etc.
So my understanding now - is that all these experiences were all experienced in my mind. The OBEs were constructs of my mind just like a dream, but seems very vivid and real.So the only thing which was not normal is that, these constructs of my mind seemed very real!...but i was still physically sleeping and all this was happening in my head!!!So that sums up my "beyond the normal" experiences.
In anycase they were all just in my head and none of them even closely impacted my reality or was based on it. It wasnt in anyway directly associated with the actual physical world. None of my experiences had any impact on the physical world( any tangible interaction).
This forum has a lot of posts about claims which seems really fantastic--- ex - telekinesis...telepathy!!, but has anybody here experienced it first hand or seen people do it? is there any OBE which is a proof that it wasnt something in their head but was somehow related to the physical world( some direct interaction, to prove its not a construct of the mind ).
I hear a lot of various spiritual views too ( about life ,death ,universe, karma chi, energy levels,chakras etc), but are these just what we understand as a concept or has anybody out there experienced it as a reality?ex - gravity can be explained conceptually , and can be understood conceptually or can be discussed conceptually, but experiencing it is different.We can believe in it because of the experience and hence it no longer is just a concept/theory.
So are these metaphysical subjects/spiritual teachings just concepts, mental constructs/fantasies or are they for real?
Are they just innocent claims or a lure for cheating/misleading the innocent?
Are they just theories to bring about a concrete definite picture of reality? and all it has to say is valid conceptually/logically etc for a discussion but not experienced/proven.
What is the truth ?