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I said "A way you can go back to your body is just thinking about going back be passive, calmed. In the Astral you can do anything if you can hold a thought, like if you want to make a car, visualise the car, hold that thought for as log as you can and you will be able to use the car and do whatever"

quote:it is true what Astral body said, about thinking of a car and being able to make it and use it in the Astral, if you did such a thing you would be letting the subconscious and its dream-images loose, and thus be blocked from experiencing what really exists in the Astral, that which is outside and independent of the subconscious/subjective mind.
It is best to keep the mind as clear as possible, with as little thoughts in it as possible, because when thoughts appear in the Astral they have the potential to create subjective images around us, which can take us into a dream.
When the mind is clear and you are aware of your surroundings, you can explore what exists in the Astral, which is far greater, more profound and imporant, than anything the subconscious can create or indulge in.

 
\What do you guys think about that??
There is this foum i go to once in a while their believes about spirit guides and other things are different than the people in this forum.
The website is www.mysticweb.org

I agree, this is a great place of wisdom

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Making your way in the world today takes everything you've got.
Taking a break from all your worries, sure would help a lot.

Wouldn't you like to get away?

Sometimes you want to go

Where everybody knows your name,
and they're always glad you came.
You wanna be where you can see,
our troubles are all the same
You wanna be where everybody knows
Your name.

You wanna go where people know,
people are all the same,
You wanna go where everybody knows
your name.

Making your way in the world today
Takes everything you've got;
Taking a break from all your worries
Sure would help a lot.
Wouldn't you like to get away?

All those night when you've got no lights,
The check is in the mail;
And your little angel
Hung the cat up by it's tail;
And your third fiance didn't show;

Sometimes you want to go
Where everybody knows your name,
And they're always glad you came;
You want to be where you can see,
Our troubles are all the same;
You want to be where everybody knows your name.

Roll out of bed, Mr. Coffee's dead;
The morning's looking bright;
And your shrink ran off to Europe,
And didn't even write;
And your husband wants to be a girl;

Be glad there's one place in the world
Where everybody knows your name,
And they're always glad you came;
You want to go where people know,
People are all the same;
You want to go where everybody knows your name.

Where everybody knows your name,
And they're always glad you came;
Where everybody knows your name,
And they're always glad you came...

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Answer to riddle:

Take goat over first. Go back and then take cabbage over. Then pick up and take goat back over with you when you go to get the wolf. Drop goat off on original shore, take wolf over to new shore. Go back for goat.

There is two i know you probably already heard but i will just say it anyway. The first one is keep a journal. Write every little detail in your dreams. so your mind will keep remembering them. Which gets you closer to the lucid dreaming. My second idea is to repeat through out the day "am i dreaming". im mean at any point that u think about it. and it will be stuck in your mind and hopefully you will say it during a dream. well though are my ideas.

quote:Originally posted by crazy_colombiang

How many of you guys believe in the theory that the aura we suppose to see is the after image of the eye.
I have tried a couple of times and each time i do it, i only see the color blue. Then i move my arm and i see the after image so i am not sure.

I don't know what you are trying to ask.  Are asking if auras are real or after images?

I am not an expert but I have some experiences.  Yesterday I was staring at my hand when suddenly I was coccooned in moving sea of brilliantly colored smoke(for better use of a word).  The colors ranged from deep purple to orange to green.  The colors were intense and very sharp.  But when I lost concentration, the coccoon disapeared and I had no after image.  I was able to reproduce it by concentrating on my fingers again.

As I said in another post, (on a rant again), since birth we have trained our eyes to only see forward and have ignored our peripheral vision.  Our peripheral version is way sharper because we never use it and the cornea is not burned as is our forward vision.

When I fist started, I only saw the blue colors around my fingers and yes when my eyes shifted, I saw an after image.Why?  Because the brain uses the left eye and right eye seperately.  When we focus on an object, the brain will suddenly shift from one eye to the other, leaving an after image in one eye.  When we shift from one eye to the other we are changing perspective, or angle of view, and we see the afterimage of the previous angle.

The blueish hue that you are seeing is your astral body.  It is the first thing that we see when we look for an aura.  Then, as you concentrate and practice more, you will start to see smoke like colors rushing from your skin, then you will see the aura forming six inches off of your skin.

I currently see up to two feet off of my body and it is breath taking to see.  I have been practicing for three weeks straight, one hour a day and I know there is much more to do.

But I have to say that if you are seeing the blue tinge, you are doing it right and you will see yourself progress really fast from now on.

Sorry for the length of post.

Congrats on seeing the basic level of your aura.

Anyone cares to help???

I've posted this book in this forum previously, but it fits here. Be Here Now by Ram Dass. It teaches a lot about spirituality, and personal growth (such as meditation, praying, and ego loss). It's a great book if you're into religion, psychedelics, meditation, and lot's of other things, but i recommend it to everyone. Peace

What about those people with more than one skill? Kinda makes the people with only one ability look small ane measily in comparison. Something to discard like a bag of trash...yelch.

^That's what some people truely think^, however, to combat this, try to get everyone to use their inherent abilities so we can all benefit from the harmony of it. I think that paints a nice picture of how humans can evolve together into trancendentation (long as crap word there!), or at least on a closer time scale to learn to stop hating what they don't understand or won't accept.

This butterfly effect post was brought to you by:

hi crazy yeah u dont seem to get answers if u asked 3 times questian1 u had obe if u have  returned and recallde what happened only it does sometimes seem if every thing stops because of ucertianty;2plants create an atmosphere of tranquility use them if yuo love them 3 dont try to hard this could upste every thing medatate and let your gaurdia contact u.

Thanks for the picture and information c_c []. I can't make this one either, however I understand from Robert that he is planning to do more workshops here in the US. So maybe next time. []


Very best,

Maybe it just means that you are growing spritually.[^]  

Dreams are a personal thing, and hard to tell someone what they mean for them.

Emotions are a good tool to go by when trying to figure out dreams,  so how do you feel while having these dreams, are you the one taking the pills?

~Nay

i think you tried too hard so you  couldnt do that anymore.
sometimes when you  try hard to do something.. it  dont work out for you.. same problem could be here..

about the dot.. it could be that your  subconsious gave you something.
thats what i think but i could be wrong

ok, I think I follow...
Sometimes it happens that one tries too hard, wich leads to weaker results. It's all about having the right approach and attitude. When it comes to meditation and AP related stuff, I think it's important not to set up definitive goals. It's better to have it like a lifestyle, you meditate every now and then..you do your stuff. As time goes by, you might get your results. It's better to let them come at their own time, if they are to come...than to force them, and feel frustration when nothing happens. The frustration and dissapointment might lead to lack of results, also..because they might create what I call energetic imbalance. Just keep the energies flowing, and be cool..and you'll get there, as we all will []
Don't feel stressed if you don't feel like meditating some day, some week or even some month. I have had the similar problem. The thought that I should definetly be meditating more was always on my mind, and it was extremly annoying. I simply could not still my mind enough to get down to it. Then a loosened it up a little bit, and now it feels good when I do it, but I won't feel bad if I don't have the time to do it every day. A little compromising with one own's mind can do good, sometimes. Good luck to you!
Be cool []

When you are on the post a reply page down just below the box where you type your text in is a link called "Add Attachment".  You click on that which causes a new window to pop up with a "browse" button.  Click on it and find the file you want to upload and click "Upload File" Once you have clicked it wait and don't click it again you don't get a progress bar or anything to tell you how to to being done it is so just wait and a new screen will appear in the same window with "Note: Click here to display this image on your message."  Click that and the window will close and the text required for posting the image will then be in your post.  Then just continue to post like you would any other time.

Hello, Even though I would not normally talk about this, but this a internet forum, and I know absolutely noone on here personally, so any negative comments against what I say will be discarded.

 I have learned Electrokinesis, and been doing it whilst at the same time, not even knowing this was a kinesis.  I wont go into detail about things but, All i can say is, I can gather energy to my fingers, and depending on how strong I am at the moment, I use my own energy, or I Take the energy from water(If im in the shower)

well anyway, i can like shock myself in the shower lol, i can shock people, I learned to control my emotions to a point where I used to shock people when i was depressed or something , to now, i can shock people anytime i want too. i just think its a energy thing.

Well you see, when people say remember that just means like, you go to a themepark, go on a roller coaster, and get off. You feel and experience everything you did in real-time, and afterwards you remembered the experience as being totally awesome.

The only problem arises in AP when you experience all these things, come back to your body, and just can't remember them. So you still have all the fun (ride the roller coaster), but you don't remember anything from it. That is just a problem, it can be worked on.

~FT

The thing with pictures is that they can easily be manipulated with the right software. Nothing i see in pictures i believe.
That car 51 is pretty funny though. The last one is cool too, but i'm not quite sure what's weird about it.

Cool!

I havent met mine yet, but from what I have heard. If you AstralProject then just start yelling for one, he/she will come.
I have also asked but not many of the more expierenced people read these because they have already helped alot of others on the subject, so its kind of hard to find alot of help in this particular area.
Hope this helps...
-Aries

Start with the book Hyperspace by Micho Kaku....I read the dutch version I'm not sure about the english titel.
But this book is really good.

Well thank you Daniel! []


Love and Light,

TruthSeeker

i don't really agree with the concept of a mind split myself, i haven't found any reason to believe in one yet...

so...

Don't take everything he says as absolute truth, it's easy to "fall asleep" and then "wake up" into paralysis immediately afterward, I did it 3 times last night....

I would have projected but I was delaing with a "neg" that wouldn't leave me alone. I talked to it eventually and it said some really strange things.

what are you trying to ask?

quote:Throughout the day I conduct reality checks. Is this real? Am I dreaming? When I drink something, I check. When I start talking to someone, I check. Is this real? Am I dreaming? I recall my lucid dreams as readily as I would remember waking life. I am constantly checking reality.

thats just telling you to get into the habit of making sure you are in a dream so that you will unconsciously check until you realize you are in a dream and it becomes lucid.

How long after you close your eyes, and when you see it do you feel any pressure on or around your eyes?

quote:Originally posted by crazy_colombiang
So why do dogs bark at you when you are in the RTZ if its just a reflection?

Animals are much more sensitive to subtle energies that we humans are.  They can also hear things which are inaudible to the human ear.

The difference is you see one or the other depending on which drug you are on [], but seriously I think they are just different levels of consciousness and energy.

just think about being in your body and you will be back instantly [], works for me and most people I have talked to.

Negs - negative entities are for the most part just astral parasites. Like mosquitoes and leeches they feed of the energy of other beings.

Most negs are not malicious, just small parasitic predators that for the most part wouldn't cause you any real harm, just a slight annoyance. Only in extremely rare cases are you likely to come across a kind of neg that could be described as something like a demon that is capable of possesing you. Despite what you might be lead to believe, these kind of neg afflictions are very rare indeed.

For the most part negs are easily or simply dealt with, and most of it has to do with your attitude - the more you fear them or are concerned about them, the more you'll be affected by them.

Have a look at Robert Bruce's Resistance to Negs and Countermeasures doco for more info here -
http://www.astralpulse.com/articles/robert/articles_40.htm
http://www.astralpulse.com/articles/robert/articles_43.htm

Regards,
James.

it might be that you are loosing sensation in your hands, which would cause them to feel like they are floating [|)]. i've felt that before with my hands and my legs, and i'm pretty sure it's normal.

~kakkarot

So basically what you're saying is should you believe what a priest tells you about OBEs, or Robert Bruce?

Bit of a no-brainer...

If you have read Robert Bruce's article, then all I know to tell you is to practice, practice, and then practice some more. Practice makes perfect, or atleast helps you get close.

Developing your energy body and storing energy will help in having OBEs.

Could be your Etheric body. Bruce says that when we sleep at night it expands and floats up above the physical body a few feet. I have woken up several times during the night before in this state.

quote: Im going to lay down on my bed relax and think about me being in a beautiful paradise for about 5 minutes. should i meditate longer?
is it better to focus on the paradise only or just to hink about nothing?

My personal suggestion is to experiment and see what works best for you. There really is no right or wrong way to meditate. I find it best to go with whatever feels right for you.

quote:and by meditating would it help me to get better or in touch with my psychic side?like OBE etc?

It will help yes. Much more so than not meditating. Though results can vary.

Do nothing. Think nothing. When you stop being bored with the nothing, you will see something weird and fun.

Practice Robert Bruce's NEW, which is free on this site.