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#1
I've had a couple strange experiences that I can't easily dismiss as simply dreams. My vision is never very good and it feels cloudy like a dream, but everything is too real and natural. My dreams are always very distorted and weird. But these experiences weren't. I kept a log as soon as I woke up from each of them. I'll post them below. I really want to know if you guys think these were legitimate OBE's and if so how I might learn how to control my energy body more effectively. Prior to these experiences I have been trying to project for over a month now. I was excited when the first happened. Even more when I only had to wait five days for another. I'm just hoping this is real. I'd like to know what other people think.

October 22nd
It was just before 7:30. The whole experience only lasted for what seemed like maybe 20-30 seconds. After the bug dream I fell asleep once and woke back up. This experience occurred just after I had presumably fallen back to sleep. My body felt like it was emanating energy. I did not have the usually vibrations that I'm used to. It was just calm, soothing energy. Realizing something was up I decided to try a different technique since the rope technique wasn't working for me. I simply tried to quiet my mind and let myself slip out of my body. I concentrated on the darkness in the back of my eyes and cleared my mind except for a few stray images of myself slipping out of my body. I began to feel like I was slipping horizontally for maybe 6-7 inches. My astral head was somewhere near/in my physical chest. I began to float upwards a little and decided to open my eyes to see what was really happening. My vision was not very good. But I was in my room, and everything was as it should be. So I don't think this was just a normal dream. I continue to float around, trying to adventure more, but it felt like my feet were stuck in my physical body still. I try maneuvering around and twisted myself into weird positions, but couldn't break free. Everything went black for a couple seconds, and then I opened my physical eyes and looked around. At first I tried to attribute the experience to me just being tired and unknowingly sitting up and looked around the room. I didn't have my contacts in so my vision was pretty similar to in the experience. But as I'm writing this I remembered that I was moving around and I felt stuck to my feet. I know I hadn't been moving. What happened was not physical. Could have been a dream. But it didn't feel like any dream I've had. I think I finally had something I am read to consider an OBE. Hopefully now that I've had one that I remember pretty well, this will open the doorway to more. Also, everything seemed to appear brighter then when I woke up and viewed the room with my physical eyes. I couldn't get away from my bed to explore the room more, but that could be how everything looks in this realm. Everything emits a glow because everything IS energy. The only reason I'm having trouble believing the truthfulness of this experience is because I was not conscious when the OBE was induced. I had fallen asleep, but I kind of woke up as it was happening. Enough to concentrate and perpetuate it. If this was indeed a dream, then my subconscious is very tricky.

October 27th

As I'm typing it is 6:45. I was starting to enter the hypnagogic state, I think. It's also possible that I was already dreaming when I started to concentrate on some visuals of myself slipping out of my body like last time. I slipped out horizontally again. I looked around and couldn't see all that well with my vision. I demanded clarity, didn't get much. I was just kind of hovering around. I floated away from the bed and toward my fan. Then I started to fall slowly through the floor into the apartment below. At this point my back was pointing downward, so I saw everything above me as I fell. I began to fall incredibly fast; this is probably due to my ingrained perception of gravity. Gravity means nothing in the astral unless I make it mean something. I'll have to remember that for next time. I was scared and demanded for the falling to stop. It didn't. As I passed one of the apartments I heard music. My demands were pretty worthless. I continued to fall until there was nothing. I was just falling through the Earth and could not see or perceive anything. At one point I thought I was in a huge cavernous area with a row of pipes gushing water into the abyss. Eventually I gave up on trying to control what was happening. I just let myself fall. It was kind of peaceful. I closed my eyes. Falling and falling and then I fell right back into my body. Very trippy. I want to think this was real. But I don't know. I've been led to believe that the astral realm is thought responsive, but so far I haven't been able to do anything with my thoughts. I just float around and things happen out of my conscious control. I guess I'll learn control with more experiences. Or it was just a dream.
#2
In the past month I have read a lot about OBE's. I've checked out websites and videos and read a couple books. After some trial and error I have developed a pretty decent method for getting to the vibrational stage. But every single time I begin to separate I lose consciousness and slip into a dream. Except I don't realize that it's a dream until I wake up. Does anyone have advice as to how I can retain my consciousness without my subconscious taking over and throwing me into another dream?wi