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Hey hello, I projected a few years ago, it´s just that I forgeted it, I remember that I was resting in my bed and I fell asleep, I waked up a few hours later, there was a noise in my head very disturbing, then I rolled on my side but I falled off the bed, when I stood up and saw my body in the bed I got surprised, then ,I don't know why I floated toward the roof, I was seeing my own body from two meters above, then I began to float down and bumped with my body and I floated up again, then I floated down again and the next thing I remember is that I waked up in the morning, almost five years have passed since that experience, in that time I didn't know what was OBE, but now I know... comments are welcome[]

Thanks for your attention.

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REM feels wierd....
I can attain it but relaxing in an aware state, usually i feel loose before it happens, and when I tense up, my eyes flutter more.....

What's the frequency kennith is your benzadrine, uh-huh!

Beautiful e-book, certainly; but as a matter of fact, Robert Bruce's Treatise on Astral Projection, at next link:

http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/oobe/oobe.htm

is far (FAR..!) better. There technical guidance, you can gather, is highly valuable. This treatise should be of obligatory reading for any serious projector.

Anyway, thank you, Isr...
NEZabaleta

yes, almost everything on this site is spiritual...its not only if your doing spirit practises u can get possesed: u can be possesed at any time, spiritual or not.

Hi Irs,

Your topic was moved to the dream forum because it really didn't seem suited to our OBE Discussions forum. Your dream sounds like a lucid one  as you knew that you were dreaming while dreaming.

For more information on lucid dreaming see:  http://lucidity.com/


Very best,

I am no medical or energy development expert, but I believe I do know this much:

There are thousands and thousands of different medical causes of what we lump together and label a "common cold".  There are probably just as many different variations of energy blockages.

I know there is a section in Robert Bruce's NEW system that gives a technique he claims can usually ward off a cold if done in the early stages of feeling sick.

Sorry I could not be more help.  

--Soulfire

I've heard that is a very effective method to raise energy.  How exactly do you do it (explain in detail).  Ive been trying to figure out how people are doing it.  When I try to focus on my heartbeat, my breathing slows down and then my hearbeat slows down and then I LOSE energy.  The same thing happens when I practice my TK, I stop breathing a lot of times and my chest starts hurting but I dont lose energy when I do TK.

Take into account that lamps don't have some finite energy source that you can just absorb.  If you took away all the energy that the lamp could access, you would have caused quite the blackout!  So what you did was not energy absorbtion.  Perhaps you blew out the bulb tho, or something of that nature.  Most likely it was a coincidence, but I'm skeptical like that.  Btw, even if you had absorbed a battery, you should of felt a HUGE energy surge.  There's a lot of energy in those things after all.

quote:Originally posted by Isr

OBE is so difficult to achieve, I think I need some motivation, can anyone help me on this, can anyone give me a motivation or know a website with such information just to keep the interest high. please?

heres a little motivation how far are you??? and well remember you can do it!!! ha thats all the motivation i need just remember things come to people at different rates like me it took me no time at all to learn TK then for the rest of the world it takes longer. so all im saying is find a really skilled person bug them a little as them to be your teeacher in it and youll become great friends and put each others names in away messages like me and mazdaaf hehe lol well thats what i did now were good pals amigos. so anyway just find someone to help you and have them go through the steps everyday  and it works or at least for me im so close now i am starting to feel light ill be looking through my eyes (astral in no time) oopps sory about me you um yeah motivation practice like 3 times daily like me. 2 hours before you normally wake after you get home...oh wait thats mee casue im still in school and i dont know about you so lests just say afternoon, and when you go to bed. tada oh and always tell yourself you can

If you're thinking about getting energy work done for you instead of you doing it yourself, Robert Bruce in Astral Dynamics states that most if not all pay programs that supposedly do energy work, even Reiki alignment, are a bunch of phoney quick fix schemes.

However, I suggest you use the search function provided on this site and look for Reiki. You may be able to find something that extends your knowledge on the problems associated with such techniques, and you may find it easy for you to do yourself with proper guidance or self-inflection.

Could you possibly extend your beliefs around reiki (and what it is you're trying to fix) for everyone so at least I can try to help you better? I'm just shaking the [8] on some of the things I've hit on in the above, with assumptions about how you think in some cases. Anyways, hope to hear back from you!

This sounds like a light transe. Transe can have different degrees of intensity/deepth. When you are absorbed and concentrating on a given activity, whether a physical or intelectual activity, it is also a state of transe, however very light. I guess you are getting there, take your time. There are other books on transes, books on meditation and of course books on OBE that describe the different stages. There is a book of Bruce on the web that has the information you are looking for about transe. Just check the astral pulse site for it. It is available in PDF format I think.

Good luck!

Why this may be helpful is because it forces you to focus on only one thing and keep other thoughts out of your mind while staying conscious because of the task of noticing.

hi lsr... welcome to the forum.

I haven't heard of this technique before, can you tell us a little bit more about what is involved ?

regards
Mark