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So I don't know if i projected or not considering I have never well done it. Anyway I was alseep, and my friend was telling my about trying to enter while dreaming. So there i was sleeping and i remember looking down at myself and seeing a white presence come out of my body, and as i watched this i felt like i was on a roller coaster on a really tall drop and your stomach kind of hangs. Anyway then my pulse increased and I then saw through my own eyes and the white presence was sucked back into me and I woke up.

But i can't explain it otherwise.

It has been a few years since I have been active here, but recently i have felt like something was calling me here. I never was able to Astral Project, and I was never able to use telekinesis. These were the only two that I ever tried.

But I was just wondering when you were first interested in your psychic ability where did you start? What abilities did you try? And what made the right one for you?

Oh I am also looking for a kind of teacher or partner to help me along on my journey to better my abilities. So you can message me for that reason.

listen i wanna say this to EVERYONE i can, in my sig, it say the quote:

And yet I never knew but still today I am not alone for everyone is with me, but not next to me.


THAT IS MY QUOTE i made that myself, i came up with it myself, SO if i see another person with it, without it properly written...i will consider it theft.... please if you use that quote please use this

And yet I never knew but still today I am not alone for everyone is with me, but not next to me. -freefaller

hi i have been practicing AP every night since like march. which is when i started with the whole phychic thing.

I feel as though i am falling in my abilities, i experienced more when i was begining than i do now. nothing works for me, i used to get to the point where my whole body would have a buzz to it, and i felt as though my hands were not there but like somewhere else... now i get nothing. i have heard of the NEW energy ways but i dont remember where to go any more, pluss the first time i read it i was so confused i never read the whole thing. i know it wont be like a month and then i got it, i know it will take a few years the waiting i dont mind. its the always being confused part.

i want to open my 3rd eye as well but i went to the sight everyone is raving about but it said to like say THOH pronounced like TOE in alto range 5 times a day for 3 days. it says you should feel a vibration on your tongue well the way i say TOE my tongue is never on my teeth except for the T part so how cam i feel a vibe in my tongue. i am not in chior so what is alto? im so confused. Im looking for someone who can talk to me and clear up my questions, and explain the new enrgy ways and give me the site again. as well as to give me tips on AP. not a teacher because i already got one, but she is always busy so more like a sub.

Guess what! There is a place not that far from this very spot! See the Astral Pulse main site article: Training To See Auras By Robert Bruce

http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/auras/auras.htm

Enjoy,


Stephen

I found it an interestring read.  But then I've been doing energy work a long time.  Parts I now use and parts I ignore.

What is causing you the most problems?  The "Energy Hands" concept or moving your conciousness around in your body(I won't mention you can move it out of your body also)?

oh also im not sure how long i was "gone" for i never moved to look a tthe clock

quote:Originally posted by FreeFaller

if you dont already know i am writting a book. i dont know what it is called i will choose the name when i think of it. the story has alot of fiction and non-fiction in it.

it starts out about how this kid believes in Ap anyway so he AP and he gets lost he meets this little creature named Yoro. Yoro is a she and she guides him back because he it too stupid to follow his silver cord back. anyway they noticed a demon who cuts his cord and takes over his body, then they go on this journey to find this one guy then they go on a very big journey to find this girl. thats only the basic very basic outline. i have never AP myself so i came to ask those of you that have. my friend who is also a junior writter gave me alot of tips. first of all what is the Asral projection , and astral world.

my thoughts were this:

Astral projection is the human bein being aware of his/ her surroundings while in astral form. When the normal body is asleep the astral self floats above the body and cant be seen unless your in astral form yourself. and when a person isaware of his/her astral self then he/she can enter the astral world.

is this correct what do i have wrong if not?

i also need to know:
is the human body asleep?
is AW a real place or is it jus thtought?
how does a person know if he/she is having an AP?

plus i have heard that if you take a picture of say a deciect person and put it onto say a photo of hawaii and if you AP and enter the photo then the dead person will be there and you can talk to him/her. i would like to use this experience. i need to know is the person:

just a thought from the person?
or is the person brought back from heaven or hell to this AW?

i also need to know what is the Astral self is it just thought?
and what does astral mean?

lastly what is the key to AP i say it is the following but please correct me if i am wrong as i have never Ap myself:

clearing your mind, gathering enough energy and go into a tranced state.

THE reason i ask all of this is because i have came across a problem when writting this. it will seem that this kid is astral projecting and he goes through all of this, but in the end he enters his body at night, then wakes up in his normal body. This way it seems as though he just feel asleep and had a dream abou AP. i need to find a way to make it clear to the reader that he was astral projecting.

I know that i did not type well here nor did i spell everything correctly, but hat doesnt mean that i am not a good writter. so i do not want to hear the critisism. this will be my 5th book that i have written, and it will also be my longest. hopefully it turns out as planned. please is you can understand please give all the information you got possible.

ok ok thanks everyone for the PM's and answered all my questions, but i decided to go about my book from a different angle. im not quite sure i am going to use AP in it anymore

Wanna write a book huh?  Well, anyone can write a book, whether it's good or not.  If you want any hope of succeeding you first need to work hard at your grammer and punctuation.  For someone who wants to write a book you're not very good at writing.  Secondly, story is a little weak.  Seems like you decided out of the blue to write a book and you don't yet know exactly what it's all going to be about.  Having and idea is a lot different then creating a story with actual substance.  It often takes years to make something good out of a simple idea.  Good luck in your efforts, I think you're gonna need it!

You are assuming huge conclusions from only a small experience.

If I took a picture of the same thing, and later I saw a small stream of electricity between 2 rocks in it, and every time I held the picture it shocked me, does that suggest that 500-mile-long lightning bolts exist?

The most that implies is that some shadowy guy with a lot of power exists. Far from god, who many people say is infinite, but most will agree could at least destroy a star effortlessly.

Funnily enough i'm a piscies and yet i revere the sky. I'm a terrible swimmer and i have no real love for water at all. In fact, i hardly EVER swim. It's been a number of years. I'd much rather fly.
I'm a fish wanting wings! []

So i guess i'm the opposite of a water baby, despite being a piscies. Go figure! []

Ah, so you are going to start your own religion also based on negativity?  You feel that the modern religions carry negative context, so you are going to form your own that discusses the flaws in all other religions?  You have the right idea in thinking that God loves everyone, and that anything contrary to this teaching is wrong.  I fully agree.  But you must remember that ALL religious leaders are human, and fallability is in our nature.  It's a strange mentality when you say that because religion is wrong, you're going to start a religion.  I don't need a priest or a bishop to commune with God and dicide if I am worthy or unworthy, sinful or right.  I speak with God directly on a personal level and trust fully what I feel He speaks to me.  It's likewise for others, like yourself I'm sure.  You don't need religion to have a relationship with God or understand the truth.  Some people just need it to re-establish their beliefs week by week and give them strength for the trials they face.  Others do not.  But we ALL make personal choices what to believe.  You can't blame religion for individual decisions.  Don't like it, don't agree with it?  Perfectly understandable.  But doesn't it make more sense to dimiss it from your life, rather than try to rally others to your cause?

I spent 5 weeks at club med, Cancun, diving...need I say more? WOW
any way, like you, I am a natural water baby. I find that if you are calm and relaxed, you need less oxygen, so the oxygen in your lungs will last longer. as for the breathing, If I "breathe" and allow some air to inflate my mouth and breath it in again, it relieves the stress in my diaphragm that's telling me I need to breath. by allowing the diaphragm to move slightly, it relaxes even more and for longer.

I can't imagine having a bubble of any size that wouldn't break away and float up, it just doesn't make sense.

Have you read Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce? Also, there are many other good books such as The Projection of the Astral Body by Sylvan Muldoon & Hereward Carrington. The reason I mention this is because reading all you can on AP/OBE can help your trying to OBE.

If money is an issue take a look at our File Library foor some excellent free downloads on OBE. Get a lot of reading under your belt then develop your own personal approach. Everyone is different, and what works for some people doesn't always work for the rest. By experimenting with different methods you may find your 'cup of tea'.


Very best,

I dont think a newbie at TK can make things float, and I dont know of anybody good at TK that can do it either. I've tried hard to do it many times, and sometimes I feel like I'm almost there, but I've never levitated even part of anything in a completely physical place.

Hi FreeFaller,

Great film, but oh so so soppy...

Yes, the scene where Jodie Foster's character meets her dad (actor of 'chips' infamy)... is in part very reminiscent and hauntingly close to a personal experience I had once in a lucid dream. Very powerful... and preferred it to When Dreams May Come! Although the dog scene is totally disney, however it is equally tear rending!

Thanks,


S

Actually you post is quite timely ... ta again!!!

ur theory sounds very true

I would suggest you to go in the article section of the site and read Bruce's text on "Healing with the heart". It is at least very effective for me. Moving energy to your leg is the best thing you can do.

Hey,

    That was really a quite vague metaphore you threw in there because you can learn how to ride a bike and then be the best bike rider in the town  hitting them jumps and doing un heard of things a beginner would ever think of, then stop for a year or 2, and still be able to ride the bike but not all the advanced thing you taught yourself, YET.

 Same with TK youll know how to do it, but you wont be able to do it AS well as you did before you stopped.  Understand?  

When you're doing tk, a part of you is touching the thing you're moving, so that part is already out of body. Bodies are very distracting, so you feel your body too.

Hi,

See http://www.astralpulse.com/ and look at Robert Bruce's Treatise on Obe, or locate it in our File Library. Better yet, get a copy of Astral Dynamics and you will be grateful you did.



Very best,

it's debatable, but why not ask God? i'm sure He can tell you whether He is accepting of it or not []

~kakkarot

Yup. Believe what you want. Anyone [affiliaited with the church] who tells you otherwise is being ignorant. Your beliefs are yours and yours only. Again, if people are telling you what to believe, they're insecure with their own beliefs and just want others to feel that way too.

Hello Freefaller!

thanks for the reply on "motivation", I also have reached that state, on two ocasions, they are like vibes, but I don't know what's next, if you find something, please let me know.[|)]

yea i think so...
but try NEW ... maybe  it wont then

thats awesome!! im not too skilled in TK altho ive done it a few times by accedent... but anyways- after you get used to doing it a lot you probably wont get as scared or excited when it happens. Its a normal reaction to feel that way but maybe if you tell yourself over as your practicing to not get excited when you do move it or soemething.. im not sure how much that will help but if you get ur mind to thinking that maybe your subconsious will remember and make you less scared and excited when u do PK. hope that helped a little..

read books, most books you come across will tell you how to at the end of the book i would recamend robert bruse i nevery read it but i heard very good things about it. But it is differnt for every one try meditation. i never had an obe when trying i havent did much study but i just learn things overy the internet wich is also a good source of information about obe. i have woken up once to an obe stat and i was floading next to my body looking around but as soon as i looked at my body i went back to dream state. i think that i dont try enough because i dont know enough i wont to know what to expect and all differnt things like that. so i dont realy wont to try obe untill i know enough about them but i have tryed a couple times. well good luck[]

about levitating...
yea its possible but it will ned  very much energy.
levitating is basically like telekinesis and ive also heard that its more easier that telekinesis.. but i dont know if thats true. never tested :/
beavis once told me that try to make time going slower that it usually does.
i mean  sometimes you feel time's going very fast and sometimes you feel it goes too slow.
anyhow by this you  can "control" more  your object.
and actually ive tried that it worked... really amazing.
i tried this just for fun. i tried to feel time  going 3 times  slower and it acutally did.. if not slower than 3 times.
whole week felt like 1 month. absolutly amazing. and i even tried telekinesis
the thing was that.. i held my hand near to the object... as soon i  started to think about the object it stopped moving... and when i  loosed all thoughts  about it it started to move.
now i've no idea if beavis  was just making it up or kidding but it actually worked.. at least for me.

so what i recomend to you... try the same.
with levitating  visualize  your (little) object (it can be what ever you want it to be) floating in the air.. few cm from your hand  see visualize everything you would see if it happened in real time. try to visualize it going up to the air.. and coming back down to your hand or table or where ever it was.

(this way  was described  on a webpage... but i've never tried  it)