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I actually got an OBE last night...  It's been more than a year since I fully got out.  I'll shortly explain my short trip and you'll see the struggles I'm having once out of body.

So I took a nap rom 8pm to 11pm  .  Obviously I wasn't able to sleep after that until perhaps 2-3am.  I was in bed doing energy work / meditating.  After a while my body just turns on its side by itself which usually means I'm ready to sleep and there I go.  I feel the vibrations, so I start focussing on my 3rd eye and I get a change in consciousness.

I roll over and get on the ground of my bedroom.  The thing is my whole astral body was completely stiff.  I coudn't move my neck so I was only looking forward, and my whole body couldn't move.  Everything was sluggish.  After perhaps 30 seconds, I get sent back to my body.  I start feeling vibrations again, refocus on my 3rd eye and I roll over again.

Everything is still sluggish but this time around I am able to move my arms and my torso.  Everything is very dark though.  So I stop and tell myself, "ok I want everything to be bright and clear... I want control over my body...", etc...  Just a bunch of affirmations, but nothing happened.  So I slowly crawled to the light switch in my room.  I hit it, (I even hear it click like in the physical world) but nothing happens. 

I was pretty annoyed by now since it's rare that I get out and the experience isn't going like I want it to.  I start crawling to my parents room across mine.  I crawl to my father and start shaking him.  I wasn't expecting anything to happen but to my surprise "whatever" was there woke up as if I spooked the crap out of him.  It looked like my father, but his eyes were very bright and white.  That scared the crap out of me too and I just closed my eyes and wished to go back to my body.  I tried to get out again but couldn't.

An other weird thing is that an other person was sleeping by my dad (my mother I'm guessing), but in the physical my dad was alone in his bed and my mother was sleeping in another room.

Anyways, what can I do to control things better.  I tried to calm down and tell myself what I want to happen, but nothing was working at all.  I barely had control of my own body.

When I do Robert Bruce's MBA, my whole left side becomes tingly and my left eye becomes extremely sensitive to light?  It makes the tingling worse... It is very similar to when I am VERY fatigued, and my eye needs to rest. I do have enough sleep though.  How can I stop this side affect?

I think it happened for reals this time.  No 1/2 dream or none of that...
It was in the morning... after i woke up... i tried to OBE...  Vibes hit and I "think" i got out and was looking up at my ceiling.  I didn't even try to look at myself in bed I was so damn excited.  I immediately went in my parents room to see if I could see them, but it was too dark.  So i ran in the hallway and opened my main door to go outside.  I was really excited, but it was night and all foggy.  I could barely see and told my self, let there be light.  It was still night but I could see a little better.  I jumped out and tried to fly but I was pulled towards the outside walls of my house right to my bed in my body and I woke up.  

The whole experience didn't feel too real, but still much clearer than a lucid dream.  I think I coulda been more focused.  More luck next time.  Yay to me tho.

So right now I'm at the point where I can get out fairly easily.  I can see my body and my room and whatever's around...  but everything's blury... and as soon as I try to move, I get back to the physical world.  I think it has to do with me trying to hard + energy.

What do you guys think?  What should I do?

Thank you, God bless.

I think i might of OBE'ed but everything is very fuzzy in my mind.  Here is what happened.

This happened yesturday morning (saturday).  It was around 9 or 10 am, I was still in bed and kept going in and out of sleep.  I kept waking up and just falling back asleep.  After 3 or 4 times of that, I tried exiting.  I felt strong vibrations, then I believe I fell asleep, but got into a lucid dream, but much stronger and realistic.  I was laying down on my right side.  And in front of me was a calculator (it seemed like), with numbers flashing on them.  At this point I was just staring at the calculator and was trying to remember the digits showing up.  I can remember the number 57, 48, and 32 showing up.  After that, vibrations came back and the calculator started spinning   ... i was still staring at it.  My vision was blurry but i remember i could see my bed and my room.  Then out of no where came a force that pulled my left arm up in the air... my whole body was tingling, and in a flash i was standing up by my bed.  It didn't feel real, but not quiete like a lucid dream either.  All the elements in my room were there.  Once i was standing up by my bed, I thought, if this was an OBE i could see my physical body laying in bed.  So i try to turn around to look, but something wouldn't let me.  It was like an invisible force, i tried turning around and looking but i couldn't look at my body, i just couldn't turn that way.  So i said, okay forget it... i approached the door in my room and jumped up to go across it, and BOOM!!! I get back in my body and wake up.

^What just happened?  I don't believe this was a full OBE but maybe some sort of it.  Can anyone help me out?

It's been a while since i posted... but i've been working hard.  It seems that i can now lucid dream at will.  I mean I get them at least 5 times a week early in the mornings.  But that's beside the point.

Now that i can lucid dream, i get to try to OBE more often.  Sure that sounds good but i can't get passed those damn vibes.  I had em so many times but the same thing happens every single time i get them.  I have tried everything!!!  

Once vibes kick in, i jus relax and try the rope technique.  I ignore the vibes as best as i can... i tried moving them throughout my body,,, tried EVERYTHING i can think of.  Read 1000's of technique, but NO!  THEY ALWAYS DIE DOWN.  They hit me really strong, i see strong white flashed, but after 30 sec to a minute the whole thing dies down until it completely goes away.

I seriously don't know what to do anymore.  Sure lucid dreams are fun,  getting vibes and feeling like i'm floating in the air is fun, but i still haven't obe'd.  ANy suggestions?

Thank you.

Hello everyone, I'm back with a new experience that has me confused.  Maybe some people out there can show me the light.  So here we go:

This was 2 nights ago.  I went to sleep around 11 and woke up around 3 or 4 for some reasons.  Went back too sleep and I believe I had an OBE.  I'm saying I believe because I'm not sure if I was dreaming that I was having an OBE or if it really was one.  Well whether I was dreaming or not, I realized that I was dreaming so I decided to attempt to project.  Vibrations kick in really hard (note that I'm not sure if I'm dreaming that vibrations are happening or if it's real, but I remember sensing the vibrations as if they were real) and a voice starts talking.  It goes like this:
"Okay, okay, D.  S. (<- those are my innitials but "it" said my full name), we're having a lot of turbulences here.  We might crash, but don't worry, keep going and you'll be there", and the vibes kept getting stronger and the voice would keep talking.  I don't remember what else it said but it creeped me out.  It was a deep and crackling voice.  And I remember waking up telling myself, "Damn, that was creepy" and saying that I'll have to write all that down in the morning.  But when I woke up in the morning, it seemed that the whole thing was a dream within a dream but it all felt real, from me waking up from the OBE to the vibes to the voice, to getting out from the vibes because i was scared.

Any ideas?
Thanks, and forgive my English.

The Pope passed away last Saturday.  Were anyone of you affected by it?  If so how?

I have been doing a lot of researches about nowdays miracles that have happened throughout other religions than Christianity.  I have found very little but most of the are from Christianity.  I won't push my belief on anybody but maybe Christianity is the truth.

Here is a very good site about nowdays miracles (bleeding statues, holy appearances, etc...) *note that I'm posting this site for sources only, if this goes against the forum's rule, I'll take it off myself*.

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http://www.visionsofjesuschrist.com/

Hello to everyone... yeah, you gonna look at my amount of posts and gonna think I'm a noob.  But i've never really posted but i've been coming here everyday for about a year now and been talkin to "Tom" (tomskinney on aim) for a while now on aim... he's been helping me out a lot, but i'd like to share what i've been through this last year and what my problems are.  Maybe this will help some people, and others will help me with my own problems so here we go (please forgive my english, i'm french   ).

So, how did I get into this field?  Well, I'm not going to lie, i really loved dbz (sorry   ) and i started doing energy work.  But i learned a lot since then.  I know what can be achieved and what can't.  I started NEW about a year and a half ago.  I raised energy and became better always learning new things.  It is also around that time i found out about astralpulse.  So i'd go and check the energy section from time to time and i got interested in lucid dreams.   I have many, many lucid dreams, i don't know why, but i guess i'm just gifted at it.  So i would read people's experience and sometimes i would read things about obe's but never would search more about it being too lazy.  

I kept raising energy for about half a year but never really got too far with it or really had big ambitions so it got kinda boring.  This is when i started reading this section of the forum and checking astraldynamics (robert bruce's site) and learning about obe's.  It seemed facinating... i was imagining my self with infinite power...  I'd think i would get out and become a God... fly around, see new people, have a second life.  But results did not come fast...

I started reading about meditation and about techniques on how to exit the body.  I bought books and what not and started working hard about 3 months ago....  Withing a month i could feel small vibrations.  A month later came something that absolutely terrified me... I thought i was going to die fo reals.  I did my regular routine and started meditating reaching for those vibes...  after 20-30 minutes they came.... but much stronger than before.  Kind of like a big earthquake all over my body.  My breath was racing like if i sprinted a mile, and my heart was stomping so hard that it sounded like a subwoofer.  My body was shaking so hard (or so i thought, it was just energy rushing through), i thought i was going to fall off my bed, but i tried to stay still.  It got stronger, and i eventually got too scared. I thought i was going into cardiac arrest or something.  I woke up with my body all wet full of sweat.  I knew from there on that i got very close.  Next day i talked to Tom, and he informed me that it was energy and that i had to try to ignore it.

I kept getting vibes but never got out.  I would lucid dream and i would become aware and try to get out but vibes would hit and then fade away, until one day...  i was lucid dreaming and i got half way out (someway somehow).  My torso was sticking out and i could see my body when i turned my face around but my lower body (leggs) were stuck... no way to get out... i eventualy got back into my body.  Wow, once again, i almost got out, but always progressing.  So, next day i talk to Tom again and he tells me my legs weren't relaxed.  Since then, no really bigger results... havent goten out at all since then... still feel vibes but that's it...  i still have problems which i need to work on and these are:

1.  i sometimes go so deep in trance that i fall asleep   .... but that doesn't happen that often.
2.  my hands sometimes jerk real bad and it breaks my meditation, but im working on that with Tom.
3.  saliva is really anoying... i can go on without thinking about it but after a while my body just swallows by it self and i awake.
4.  vibes come but then they fade away and i don't get out


I hope this wasn't too long. again sorry for my english... i hope this can help/inspire some people... if it's really bad that people can't understand... ill delete it myself....

Ok, im registered to an other forum and we were talking about projecting and some member told me that many in his families passed away and all were practicing obe's.  Here's what he said:

Those of you who practice this should consider the long time consequences...I have friends and some family members who have passed on...the funny thing, they all died a peculiar way and all practiced this...there is one way that the bushmen do it, they have a problem wit somebody and decide to take there revenge by visiting that person by night and biting or scratching them...they can leave in the form of a wide variety of dark animals (mostly rats, owls and cats, hawks..etc) and upon arrival of that persons house will torment them through the night..I have studied this for about 3 years fully. When they are over, they will return to there body by going back to the house via flying if bird or scurrying if rodent...heres one thing...if that animal is caught, the person at there home who is projecting themselves into the animal to bid there deeds will never awake from the trance...the tribe people of South America and Africa take to breaking the legs or wings of the animal and going around the village to look for whoever it is that isnt up yet and badaboom...theres your culprit...

Then there is the more civilized projection...this leads into the spiritual realm which we do not belong yet if we arent dead...you guys who are into this, have you ever heard the phrase "thus the silver cord be loosed" There is a certain range that you can travel out of your body and there is a silver cord attached from the body to the spirit...when you go to far that cord is snapped and you are dead...i have some uncles who have died while sitting and practicing this during the night and never got up from his chair...i have a friend who tried stopping but was visited by night every day by his spiritual aquaintance who would first come nice and urge himn to come back until that spirit became moe aggitated through the nights and took to slamming his refrigerator or pulling his hair...just know what your getting into...if astral projection wasthat good, dont you think everyone would be doing it?

Is any of this true??  Tell me what you think cuz im kinda trippin; now.  Im so close to projecting, i get all those strong vibes but after having read that... i dunno if i wanna try to project anymore.  Thanks.

Well for Robert Bruce Dream is a low level Astral Projection. Refer to Treatise on OBE or Astral Dynamics...

Regards,
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bonjour a toi le hustler francais...

Premonitory dreams happen here and there. Some people are more gifted than others. I have had premonitory dreams too. Some people in my family were even more gifted. In addition to that there are also signs and symbolism, in that sens that for example raw (fresh) meat in a dream represents a corpse, a dead body (or just death if you prefer) and the person who is offered the meat is the person who is about to die. It is a bit shocking when you realize in the morning that the dream you had was a premonitory vision, I've myself gone through this. You can even develop this gift by paying attention to your dreams and by sleeping more etc...

It is said that while we sleep we actually travel in the astral planes. And from the astral the future is accessible, but it is not quite sure how.

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Bien a toi!

Shaman le reveur .... [|)]

Actually when you move the psiwheel you must 'be' the wheel in an obscure manner. You should also not think of _ANYTHING_. Your mind must be 100% empty of any thoughts. Even a partial thought or thought impulse is enough to disrupt this.

Then the third thing is that you should not try to force it to move, it should just 'happen' by itself. I believe when you move it you do it more on a subconscious level than conscious.

Hello!

Let me correct you. First an aura is usually just one foot out of your body but it grows higher and bigger in some situations.

What you've seen might be an aura, if you want to check it out then I suggest you to try to see first an unliving aura of an object with a certain colour. If you take a blue object and see yellow aura then your vision is right. here is the list of colours and their auras:
Blue - yellow
Yellow - blue
Red - green
Green - red/pink
orange - pale green
purple - gold
gold - purple
white - black/grey
black - shining white

After mastering the technique you can start to stare on plants's auras it will always be green and then look at humans auras and see that you are right! Good luck!

Maybe you did hold your breath without noticing...

I guess society and modern life happend to you . Where there are no magical fairys and such =P

you are not alone in having lucid dreams+other wierd dreamstates as a kid and loosing it.And seldom remembering dreams.

I can only guess at when we are kids , going to bed is an adventure while when we grow up and only embrace the logical , bedtime is the hours wasted before more "business" can be conducted.

However fear not ,remembering dream and lucid dreaming is skills that can be relearned (dreaming however is not , since you do dream every night [] regardless of memory retained).
Just do a search on this site or even google and many sites with courses will pop up.

The essens in relearning is realy only
1: when waking up , stay in bed and relax , wondering what you did dream , bits will come at first . Until you easely remember a full dream or more.

2: keeping a journal (or girlish diary if you wish) of your dreams remembered and reading it often. This will cause you to pay more attencion to dreams and remember them easely and if you realize a pattern you will suddenly relize its a dream when dreaming if it occurs again.

3: And finnally make sure your not realy dreaming when awake several times aday, you are able to tell the diffrence noo? So it might be an odd thing to do. Until you realize people are creatures of habitt and the unconcius is happy to help when were getting set in our ways. So when your making it a habitt of checking if it is a dream , it is realy only a question of time before you will perform the same action in a dream. And TADAAH you may find you think its reality []! and dream on .

Wich makes it important to check the right signs , books are good and so is watches , read the header/time look away and see what it says now. Thise things change often in dreams. But such things isnt always readily availeble in dreams(wich is a sign in itself but not obvius) , but you can always check your boots , is that realy your footwear?!? look closely. Loosen them and retie , are they diffrent. are they tied still?

Ok thats big enough crash course , Lucid dreams should occur in a month or so(i get impression thats the time one ussual succeed in). Check other post/sites for more info.  

For the other topics i have no(big) interest in myself as of now but i noticed there is a course in auras at the root of this site (not in forum).