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#1
It's been several months now since I wrote here about my first OBE, where I had no sight, and just kinda floated up and down. I have no time to practice, except at bedtime, which of course ends up with me falling asleep. I haven't even had much of a chance to read many posts here at this site. But today I had some time in the middle of the day, and I got results!  :D I got my 2nd OBE, and 1st OBE from waking consciousness.

I've really been wanting to try the phasing method. But that's not what I got today, even though doing run downs put me in a relaxed state where I did not notice my physical body. After more than an hour of relaxing,  (having to start again sometimes because something made me return to C1), some vibrations hit me. The vibrations started because some sort of noise that "happened" in the room gave me a small jump, and that started the vibrations. I read somewhere once, that that's one guy's whole method! Relax and wait for a noise that always seemed to come along that would give him a start, and then the vibrations would start.

(I understand that many people do not feel, and do not need to feel the vibrations in order to have an OBE)

I was able to do something with these vibrations, that I could NEVER do before - I could increase them! I've had full body vibrations before, very strong ones, but I could never increase them by will, no matter how I tried. Then they'd go away. These vibrations responded immediately to my intention. Then another thing happened. When I willed myself to float away from the bed, I felt it actually happen, whereas in the past, nothing happened!

It was my intention to float off the bed on to the floor, as I've read people do here. I thought while floating "This is it, if I am having an OBE it'll be a soft landing, if it's just me moving - I'll know". I felt myself fall off the bed, and the landing was ever so soft. I thought WOW! and opened my eyes, and as clear as ever I saw polished floorboards, the same as in my room. I was hitting it to test how real things felt. Everything looked and felt life-like. And that's the other thing, I could SEE this time!

The house was not where I lived, but I didn't care. I don't know where I was. It had high ceilings, and polished wooden floor, like where I live. But the house layout was different, and none of the stuff in it was mine. Except for the brightly sunlit bedroom I arrived in, the house was dim from having no lights on, but I could still see clearly. There was still some light around, it was not too dark. I was walking around the house. There were no people in the OBE besides me.

When I was in the loungeroom of this house it occurred to me to try to use this as a launch to f3. But maybe I haven't done enough reading on phasing yet. I was trying to get to the 3d blackness with stars by trying to picture it. Nothing happened. Perhaps I should have done it some other way. But I did not persist with this for more than a couple of tries. I didn't want to wake up. That's the other thing I noticed at this time... I am used to lucid dreams, and I can prevent myself from waking by spinning myself around. And because I am conscious in my lucid dreams, I also tend to wake soon after becoming lucid. As a result whenever a dream begins to fade, I spin into a new one. I also move around fast to keep myself thinking (conscious). I was moving around quickly today in my OBE too, but it was unnecessary, because it was so stable! Everything stayed the same. Even after closing my "eyes" to imagine this 3d blackness and express intent, I opened my eyes and was still in the same place. I began to fly around in the loungeroom bouncing off the walls. I felt full of tickling vibrations and energy rushes. I find it a bit uncomfortable, which is OK because they used to be unbearably uncomfortable when I used to practice, and I'd have to stop trying for an OBE.

After flying around this large, dark loungeroom, I decided I should call it quits and write it all down while I still remembered everything. I know it is important to keep early experiences short. But I had a false awakening and went into a dream. In my dream I was telling everyone all about it. I'm so relieved that after that dream, I could still remember the OBE. It'd be a shame otherwise.

The big progress for me since the last one was this:

I was able to drastically increase my vibrations through intention. In the past nothing would happen.

I was able to put up with the ticklishness of the vibrations. I hate them! Grr

I could feel a definate sense of movement as I felt I was floating off the bed on to the floor. It didn't feel imagined, though I know I wasn't really floating. It's all in the mind, I never went anywhere.

I could see, and see as clear as a bell. The floor felt as I expected when I hit it. I realise it was an epectation rather than a reality.

I was able to do this from a relaxed conscious state, and not from a dream!

Not once did I even THINK about my body, it's strange it never crossed my mind to look. (Thank goodness). I just got up and went out the bedroom door into a different house.

My surroundings looked real, and stable. Not at all like a dream.

All of these things I wanted to experience for myself. They are questions I've wondered about. I write all of this for people like myself who read about other people doing it, and wonder what it is like, or if it is true. I hope everyone who tries without success will persevere. It's taken me 18 months to get this far, and you can see it is not very far. I'm sure everyone who keeps at it will get there sooner or later.

Thanks for reading,

Potatis
#2
Hello Everyone,

Last night I went to bed late, and very tired. I tried the OBE method that I have been using lately, which is the one that lead to my first obe.

In a short time I felt my arms lifting out of my arms, it was great. I'd asked Selski about this in the past, and read about other people's experiences of projecting limbs, and I couldn't believe I was experiencing it myself! Next to float were my legs. They were raised from my feet. My arms and legs really felt they had lifted. I could not however MOVE these floating arms when I tried. They felt as if they floated straight up, with my elbows still on my bed. (I was laying on my back).

I wanted to learn about this state, so I had no intention of going any further. I just wanted to know what would happen if I quickly opened my eyes and looked. Of course I saw nothing but my physical body, BUT, what interested me and surprised me was that the floating feeling did not suddenly disappear. I felt my feet, not my real feet, lowering slowly back down over a period of about 4 – 5 seconds. Even while I was looking! It was not a sudden snap back, or sudden disappearance of sensation. I would not have thought it would be like that. I could FEEL my feet and legs going down, and in my physical body, I could feel sensation in my legs as I felt these other legs lowering down inside. Has anyone felt it this way if they've done what I did? I would have thought if I were really floating, I'd snap back in a flash. But I could really feel my legs and feet slowly falling, as if deflating. I don't remember what happened with my arms. The feet and legs slowly lowering was a distinct sensation however.

After this, I decided to try a projection. I try to remove any emotion that comes to me when I try to project, and try to be as passive as possible. When I began to feel floaty I had a sense that rapid heart beats were about to come, and they started coming. I was trying to stop them coming by breathing slowly, and gently, and trying to prevent any feelings of excitement. I just wanted to be calm and relaxed. It did slow the heart rate, but also nothing happened when trying to project. Are rapid heart beats welcome, or unwelcome? I read in the sleep paralysis FAQ that rapid heart beats is a projection related sensation. Perhaps I should have encouraged them? Rapid heart beats though just focuses my attention to my physical body – my heart beat. It is distracting. Should I be encouraging rapid heart beats, but trying to ignore them?

That's enough questions for now. Thanks for any help!

Potatis
#3
YES!

It might be boring to read about, because all I did was float up and down and spin around. I couldn't see a thing, nor did I try to! I was definately out, I could really feel it, I was floating and spinning, my mind was very alert! It was amazing! Now I must do MORE! I must SEE!

I kept floating in and out of my body, and felt butterflies in my stomach. Was I projecting from my stomach? Because it felt like my head and upper body was floating up until my body was at a standing or upright position, then I could rise further, and spin myself around if I wanted to. I did this several times, and had a funny butterflies kind of feeling in my tummy.

Potatis
#4
Welcome to Dreams! / Dream colours
February 09, 2005, 02:08:16
Last night I had a very vivid dream of being outside at night. Instead of the sky being black, it was a solid darkish blue, and all over it sparkled with tiny silver dots like a sparkler, very fine though (but bright) silver sparkles. It was the most magnificent, awsome sight I've ever seen.

All this happened after I was falling asleep after trying to imagine a colour that to humans, doesn't exist. I couldn't of course do it. Apparently the "afterlife" has such indescribable colours. My dream was full of weird colour schemes. No colours that I hadn't seen before, just different (weird) colour schemes, but so very beautiful. Just thought I'd share.

Potatis
#5
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Weird clock
December 03, 2004, 18:44:22
Hello!

Last night I was at my computer until just after 1am reading posts from this forum, as I regularly do. When I finished I went into my bedroom and saw my digital clock beside my bed flashing 12:00. I thought that perhaps sometime during the day the power may have gone out, so I went to the kitchen and checked the time on the microwave, and to the loungeroom to check the time on my stereo, and there was no problem. So I went back to the bedroom to reset the time on my clock.

As I was about to set the time the clock changed to flashing 12:01 and I realised that the clock has not been flashing 12:00 all day. It must have reset at the exact minute I went into my bedroom, which was 1:09am (According to the time on the 2 clocks I checked).

The clock is on the complete opposite side of the bedroom to the doorway, so no plug was knocked, and aside from that idea, the plug was firmly in the powerpoint.

I find it an enormous coincidence that the clock began to flash 12:00 at the time I entered the room, especially when nobody was anywhere near the clock, and there had been no power problems. The clock is working fine, it is not faulty. Does anyone have any ideas?

Potatis