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Well this is third time I referenced this thread today:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13551
Trying to get beyond obe phantoms is not easy, there seems to be a continume between obe's and lucid dreams and maybe we can get beyond it by concentration.

Hi, Toriack!

I've had some succes with converting LDs into OBE's. I don't know anything about classical 'LD to OBE' techniques, but I'll tell you how I do it.

I once had a long, long lucid dream, and I really didn't know what to do anymore, so I decided to try to have an OBE. I really had no idea what to do. I just created a totally white scenario and asked:
"May I project?"
I asked nobody in particular, I just asked. Anyway, the vibrations started and I would have had a successful OBE if it wasn't for the pain in my back..

Every time from that LD, after I spend some time being lucid (quite a while), the vibrations simply start by themself.

I know it's kind of weird, but that's the way it is. Perhaps you should try it.

I hope I helped. Cheers!

Have you looked at the articles here?
http://www.psipog.net/articles.php

There is a category at this site called "The Kinesis'" which has articles on different aspects of affecting matter and energy:
http://www.psipog.net/articles.php?cat=3

One of the articles is called "Micro-PK for the Untrained Layman". It has in it a description of working with electricity. Maybe you can do it and find a way to apply it. Be careful about practicing it in front of your computer.
http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=22

As for seeing whilst projecting it's the same as you would do on the Physical. You simply open your eyes. On the Astral, obviously, you don't have any physical eyes to open, as such. But all you do is to think about opening your eyes and you will be able to see.

As for the rapid-heartbeat you are feeling, what you are probably doing is just activating one of the bodily energy centres that mystics, et al, call Chakras. There is something about a Heart Chakra that can be activated which gives similar feelings to what you describe.

I believe, from what people have said on this BBS, that I did the same once. Quite by accident, as it happened. But activating various Chakras is not the same as projection into the Astral. Which is probably the reason why you have reached your current stumbling block.

Yours,
Frank