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Its not hard at all to project i find making penut butter and jelly harder then aping. Acctually making a penut butter and jelly stain sandwhich is hard... But all you gotta do is lay in bed dont think of your body and pretend birds are slowly pulling your spirit body out with ropes, keep thinking about it soon youll start to vibrate , ignore it and keep consintrating on the birds, youll be paralized, you will either see scary stuff or hear stuff. Ignore it because negitives are just jealous you are a projector and they want to harm you but they cant because you are jus to pimpin keep watching the imaginary birds pulling your body and remember the whole time from the begining keep telling your self how cool this is. Soon you should be out of your body if you did everything right, afteryou ap think of the destination you want to go. Warning though if you are horny do not have sex in the astral realm at ALL. scuccabus lurk there all the time or you can get a entity pregnant. Use spirital protection!.

Thanks gopherboy455,

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I agree.  While I haven't tried (or should I say haven't had success) with the rope method, I have problems using specific visualization as focus points.  I get so caught up in trying to "visualize" right that I get stuck on it.  

Sensation is so much easier since its tangible rather then purely visual.  It helps me ground, and then by grounding so much I am able to expand.

(Though I can say I have yet to have a truly OBE, I do get to altered states of some sorts.)

thanks for sharing,
joya

Hey gopher, I think as we do energy work or meditate to expand our concioussnes we start perciving energys and coulers from other dimmensions, I always see violet, purple and magenta type electric blues every where, day and night some times! its cooool[]

Why dont you post this on one of the many 2012 threads that are already out there. I see what you mean though about the 2012 thing being a hoax. Personally i believe that some person saw way to0 many movies and ate too many paint chips as a kid and when they noticed that the mayan calender ended on 2012 they thought it would be an awsome idea to associate that with demons destroying the world. Wake up people, arent we already do that by ourselves. If anything i think that it would be forces or good and not evil that come in 2012 and stop our madness. Like the matrix suggested, we area a cancer to this planet and we are doing a pretty damn good job of screwing stuff up.

I've never had any luck with it.  I find it much harder to focus while I'm stoned.  People take to it differently though.  When I first started smoking I loved it.  But I've done it for so long that it's not that fun anymore and my mind copes with it a lot differently.  Pretty much it just shuts off and I can't think for spit.  I need my brain functioning properly so that I put full effort into concentration.  As far as pot opening the doorway for spritiual experiences and telekenisis, well, why would you think that?  Have you ever tried to move a piece of paper across the room with not success, then get stoned and you succeed?  Doesn't sound very likely to me.  The only profound experiences I've ever had on drugs has been on mushrooms.

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It takes time to develop your energy body and chakras. If they are not very well developed then it does not matter how much energy you try to put in. It is kind of like trying to pour a pitcher of water into a shot glass. It does not matter how much you pour in, you can still only put so much in the glass. The thing is to keep practicing and developing and you will notice a difference after awhile.