Hi,
I'm new here and this is my first question, sorry if I appear skeptical
I had LDs and various "experiences", either meditation or DMT "induced" so I know there is something out there and I explore it regularly.
That being said, I always had difficulties understanding why people think that they are visiting the REAL world during OBE. All experiments I heard of failed miserably at trying to prove that. Yes, it can be very convincing, to feel getting out of the body, but isn't it just that: a feeling produced by our own body/soul?
For me, the OBE/AP are just same thing, the "soul" traveling to other places different from our everyday life.
If I'm wrong, can someone please provide a link to a serious study proving that we are visiting the real world and not just a almost perfect mind reconstruction of our environment? For example, seeing things during OBE and confirm it once awaken.
I'm new here and this is my first question, sorry if I appear skeptical

I had LDs and various "experiences", either meditation or DMT "induced" so I know there is something out there and I explore it regularly.
That being said, I always had difficulties understanding why people think that they are visiting the REAL world during OBE. All experiments I heard of failed miserably at trying to prove that. Yes, it can be very convincing, to feel getting out of the body, but isn't it just that: a feeling produced by our own body/soul?
For me, the OBE/AP are just same thing, the "soul" traveling to other places different from our everyday life.
If I'm wrong, can someone please provide a link to a serious study proving that we are visiting the real world and not just a almost perfect mind reconstruction of our environment? For example, seeing things during OBE and confirm it once awaken.