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Anyone heard of Quantum Jumping, by a guy called Burt Goldman?

He's a guy in his 70's who's apparently learned to do all manner of things to an amazing level, piano, photography, painting - I've watched a couple of Youtube vids about him, he certainly can do these things - of course it doesn't prove the way he says he learned, but interesting nevertheless.

I haven't bought it - but I've done some research, and it's kind of a guided meditation in which you're taken to alpha level, you walk down a set of stairs, imagine a door - and you think about whatever it is you want to do, and you're told that there is a version of you in an alternate reality, a doppleganger, who has the abilities you need and that when you open the door & step in, you will meet the doppleganger, merge your energies, and then you'll also take on their abilities. Then you come back.

I know it sounds far fetched - but he's very convincing, and he seems to have been doing this for a long time.

Any thoughts? Anyone have any experience with anything like this?

Thanks

Kev

Hi all, been a while  

My OBE's started off being spontanious - I had no idea what they were, all I knew is I was waking up vibrating like mad, and then one night I woke up right next to the ceiling.....

Then I found the AP forum while searching the web - I actually thought I had some kind of a medical condition so I was searching for info on that - when I found this, I then remembered lots of childhood astral experiences.

Anyway, I read a load of books etc, read a lot of stuff on here - and with some experimentation & trying, I managed to get the vibes through meditation, although I never got "out" through meditation. I had a few very interesting experiences though, like suddenly hearing voices as if there was a radio on - some loud crackling & popping type sounds, and so on.

Other than some success with the mobile phone method (as long as I do it just after waking up) all of my experiences just happen, I can't make them happen.

Months can go by with nothing happening - and then I'll have a number of experiences one after the next.

What happens more than anything though - and happened last nigt - is the following...

I become conscious from sleep, in the middle of the night, and I start to imagine myself spinning, and I start to actually spin, so then I lift an arm or a leg, and I lift my astral arm or leg. So then from here, I can move my arms around astrally, I can talk astrally so I can hear me but my wife can't, I can sometimes sit up astrally, and so on - and it can last for quite some time, and sometimes it's so real that I am not sure if I am moving for real or not, but I know I'm not as my wife is a very light sleeper & would wake if I were.

But the annoying thing is that I am completely restricted, I can't move out, I can't roll off the bed, float up, sink down, nothing, it's as if I'm stuck to my body with a very very small & very strong rope.

Also - I don't get the vibes any more. I've not had them for a long time. I find this odd & I'm wondering if others find the same, that over time you just stop getting the vibes? Is it a sign that your energy levels aren't high enough (which I think I've seen people saying before) or is it just that after a while you don't need the vibes?

All the time I've been doing this, the furthest I ever ventured was down stairs (I went looking for something I could check the position of the next morning, so I went & found my shoes, remembered exactly what position they were in - and in the morning when I went down they were exactly in that position)

I have, very occaisonally got out of my body & off the bed, but nearly all the time, I can't.

It's really frustrating!!    

Does anyone have any experience of having overcome this, or have any advice?

Thanks

Kev

Hi All

Just had to post this....

Last night, I had a HUGE break through, longest succession of OBE's ever, best control, best astral vision, amazing.

I've been saying in other posts recently that I've been getting stuck, fustrated etc, getting stuck in SP a lot, etc., Well last night was completely different!

I'll walk you though what happened, so anyone else who's having similar problems I've been having, can try this too....

I went to bed a lot earlier than normal, at about 10 PM, usually I don't go to bed until at least midnight.
Then, I woke up at just before 1 AM, and realised there was something I needed to do, so I got up, came downstairs, and worked until 3AM...

When I started to work I was absolutely shattered, but I managed to get myself to stay awake - then by the time I'd finished doing what I needed to do - I didn't feel tired anymore, so I went upstairs to bed thinking "oh great, I won't be able to sleep now!"

I got in bed, closed my eyes - and tried the "mobile phone" technique, that I'd read in a previous post.

I couldn't really feel a mobile phone in my hand, but just focusing on what it would feel like to have a mobile phone in my hand, had me out within minutes.

the difference now though - was I was a lot more aware than I usually am at this point, so I could remember all the things I'd learned, which really helped.

next thing I knew, I was out, and I could see really well - which is something that doesn't usually happen.

The door was closed, I had a bit of trouble at first but then managed to get through the door, I went back & decided to go through the window instead - but I bounced against the glass!? at this point it felt more real than real, and I actually thought maybe I'd accidentally managed to wake myself up & maybe I was actually trying to throw my physical body through the window... I thought that may not be great, so I decided to check.

got back in body, wiggled a finger, and got straight out of SP - which never happens with me!

realised all was good, so I went straight back to phase, straight out, tried the window again, couldn't do it!? so I went through the door again, felt a little bit of friction as I went through the door, which I wasn't expecting. I went downstairs, made a mental note of where my shoes were in the lounge, so I could check this in the morning to see if I was seeing reality. Did a bit more floating around in the house, couldn't get out of the house. Went back to body, experimented with SP, waking up my body again, did this a few times, just couldn't beleive how easy it was.

I checked in the morning - and my shoes were in the same position I remembered from the OBE

and - despite the fact that I felt like I'd been OBEing literally from 3 until 7am when I woke up - I woke up feeling like I'd had 8 hours sleep!

So - great result!!

Anyone have any insight as to why last night went so well, is it the fact that I went to bed early, then got up & got my mind busy again while my body was still tired, and went  back to bed with an awake mind but a shattered body?

thanks


Kev

Hi 

After the experience last night when I got stuck & ended up shouting through the corner of my paralysed mouth for my wife to wake me up.... I really want to finally find an exit technique which works for me, I'd be very grateful if anyone who exits regularly could help me with this.

About 6 or 7  years ago I had my first (I thought) OBE, when I woke up with a vibrating head, and then found myself floating just under the ceiling, did a few loop de loops, and then got paralysed for a bit before managing to wake up. The next day, when I searched the web, I found this forum, and realised what it was that had happened. I then also remembered lots of astral experiences as a kid, that as a kid I just thought were normal.

For a while I could induce the vibrations, and I had a few weird experiences, hearing voices, electrical kind of sounds, all that stuff.

After a while this developed to the point that I don't get the vibrations now, I just find that I can move without moving my physical body - usually the easiest way to do this, I find, is spinning, and I can quite often get myself spinning.

but it's getting away that I really struggle with, I can get out, ie just outside of my body enough to spin, but that's as far as I get, if I ever try to exit properly, I end up slipping into dreams, or sleep paralysis & then eventually waking up


any pointers?

Thanks

Kev

Hi all

Not been on here for aaaages, but thought I'd come on after the very strange and scarey (especially for my wife) experience last night.

I was semi out, spinning around, as I usually do - trying to get out proper but not quite managing it, and I kept seeing a white figure in the room which kept freaking me out - so I kept trying to wake my body up, but was deep in sleep paralysis.

I was getting really fustrated, and scared - mainly due to this white shape, and couldn't wake up - I began shouting my wife, she couldn't hear me at first - beacase as usual, I was shouting with my astral voice, I could hear it but noone else could - but then something odd happened.

I managed to just un-paralyse my mouth & voicebox enough to get barely audible sound out! I was completely paralysed, apart from my mouth, and I managed to shout (in a very strange sounding croaky voice) my wifes name out of the corner of my mouth, and then say "Wake me up, wake me up"

It must have been very scarey to witness me, in my sleep - eyes closed - motionless, saying "wake me up" in a very strange voice throught the corner of my mouth!! 

My wife was very scared, she thought I'd had a stroke, I'm only in my early 30's so it's not as if that is particularly likely, but it is how I looked, only the side of my mouth working & rest of body motionless.

She shook me, and I came round, and thanked her for waking me up.

I then looked up to see what the white figure / shape was that was freaking me out during the obe, and it was a picture frame on the wall, with the moonlight reflecting in it!

anyone else experienced anything like this?

Thanks

Kev

Hi All  

I used to have OBEs and all manner of astral projections & experiences as a child, thought they were normal, then forgot about them, until a few years ago when I woke up paralysised with my head vibrating, and then woke up floating near the ceiling, LOL. this brought it all back to me, & I started researching it, found out about OBE's, found Robert Bruce's Ebook, found this forum, and so on.

The spontanious OBE's stopped after a few times & I've tried & tried and did manage to get the vibes a couple of times then nothing.  Got fed up with it for a bit & didn't bother, until recently.  Been trying to do it again recently, I've tried phasing which hasn't really worked, but then I started waking up early & going back to sleep, which has been producing some results.

I nearly got out the other day!! Woohooooo    I became lucid in a dream and seperated, but I was stuck in the body, I could move my astral hands & legs, and even spin round & round, but I couldn't get out.

then the next day I woke up with the vibes but every time I "tried" to relax into them, and each time I think I tried to hard & stopped them all together, got them back a few times but couldn't sustain them.

Then this morning I woke up with sleep paralysis, I was shouting my wife, screaming, panicking, trying to push her, I was moving my astral hands but not my physical & it was it I was getting confused between the two, I don't understand why I panicked?? As soon as I got out of it I though "you idiot, why didn't you just chill out?"

So that's where I'm stuck at, getting the vibes & getting parylised but not being able to take it further, any advice? Please  


Thanks

Kev

This has really been bugging me for the last couple of weeks, so I thought I'd stick a post on here & see if anyone can shed any light on this.

I downloaded the Abyss track (free when I purchased mind power studio).

I opened it from the folder I'd saved it to, and was very confused by what I started to hear!

It wasn't the abyss track, it was a man talking!

He had an american accent,  but I'm English so I can't really tell which part of the states he was from, it did sound like an older gentleman. he was talking in quite a harsh voice, by that I mean he had hard tones to his voice rather than being softly spoken, quite a snappy voice, didn't mince his words, "calls a spade a spade" kind of a guy.

The subject he was talking about was "materialisation" but it didn't sound like he was being interviewed, or a clip from an audio program or anything like that, it was more as if he was having a one sided conversation with someone, well I suppose he was, with me, I certainly didn't answer back

It sounded like he was rambling, rather than a well planned statement, but it was obvious the subject was to do with "materialisation" which is a term I wasn't familiar with until I looked it up.

In case this makes any sense to anyone, one of the things he mentioned was "I used to put a ruby in a cup" it sounded like he was explaining how he proved  materialisation to none beleivers.  He went on to talk about how he had been called a marriage breaker, because some people once they knew the truth realised they weren't actually in love with whom they thought they were.  He also said "some people don't think it's real - it's real, even if people don't beleive it I don't care, I know its real" or words to that effect.

It's hard to describe it in more detail though as he was rambling & only half finishing sentences & so on, as if he had so much to say but not much time.

He swore quite a bit too

Does this ring any bells with anyone, anyone have a clue who this guy could be, or why he was playing out of my earphones instead of the abyss track? LOL

I actually stopped it & re-started it a couple of times, but it was still the guy talking, so I assumed it was on the beginning of the track, but then suddenly after a few minutes, it stopped, and abyss started playing, I've tried everything to try to get it to play again, downloading it onto other devices, stopping & starting over again, it just isn't there!

It's really frustrating, if I'd have known I'd never hear it again, I would have written it all down!!

Cheers

Kev